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Sot,

the actions you outlined clearly suggest you are being set up for theft. Kid wants the refund and the book.

 

I hope some legal eagle on board chimes in, cause it is clear to me what is going down.

GCstomp the only thing clear here is slander on your part. mods notified

 

Updated the situation.

 

After I said I would take the book back BucOne has:

 

1. Filed an unauthorized claim against Paypal and his bank saying he did not authorize the payment.....I smell Fraud

 

2. Swears he went back in PayPal to close out the claim, and I Istill have yet to be notified and the claim is still opened.

 

3. Wants to wait till the claim is settled before returning the book

 

4. Had the balls to ask for reimbursement of the return shipping

 

I would rather see him Banned for good than actually get my book back and I would be ok with lose of $185.00 att his point.

 

John, I jumped the gun and filed an authorized payment because it was my only option since I paid using "Gift" I wasn't about to absorb the loss. My bank never said a word about I didn't authorize the payment and most of all. I guarantee you'll get back your book, In fact I will post the confirmation number as soon as I ship it out. I only suggested waiting for shipping the book back, was because paypal never canceled my request to cancel the claim. I also copied and pasted the final cancellation page that shows I did.

Besides John, You posted that you never knew I was on the probation list. You asked me to post the "I'll take it" icon and I told you it would be better that I didn't because of the reason of being on the probation list and also I told you I was on the list and said if you sell to me I will send payment in a few moments which I did. Now who is telling stories?

Anyway, there is no reason for you to make this public but since you want too, then so be it.

I bought low and mid grade raw books here and I have zero problem but when i entered into the high grades, I have been disappointed. Now, maybe my expectations are too high and when I sub the books, it will come back as advertised...but I rather not take any more chances here or Ebay.

 

 

 

:Nods: I now have to send back a book and spend money out of my pocket (that I don't have) and with all the stress and money lost. I learned my lesson.

 

the comic is warped, I think the seller knew it.

 

 

Serves you right for actually paying for it.

What kind of response is this?? mods notified

I just received my comic purchased from a seller on this board, not happy at all. I should have known better when the comic was priced $75 less than previous GPA. I just figured a CGC 9.6 with white pages was the real deal, but no it's warped and has a 1 1/2 inch line running across the lower back page. I just can't believe something with a line running across would be graded a 9.6. The seller never showed a copy of the back and I just never thought to ask. Oh well, and as far as the warped issue, I'm guessing that is from sitting in the CGC case but who knows. I'll tell you folks, it's getting harder and harder to get a fair shake.

 

PS: I also placed this in the General for a much larger view.

 

 

You want me to fetch some cheese to go with your whine?

Just consider it karma for all the trouble you've been.

 

Love,

 

Dice

 

PS.

 

so it's okay to screw someone over and justify it because he didn't buy a book from another seller?

I just received my comic purchased from a seller on this board, not happy at all. I should have known better when the comic was priced $75 less than previous GPA. I just figured a CGC 9.6 with white pages was the real deal, but no it's warped and has a 1 1/2 inch line running across the lower back page. I just can't believe something with a line running across would be graded a 9.6. The seller never showed a copy of the back and I just never thought to ask. Oh well, and as far as the warped issue, I'm guessing that is from sitting in the CGC case but who knows. I'll tell you folks, it's getting harder and harder to get a fair shake.

 

PS: I also placed this in the General for a much larger view.

 

 

You want me to fetch some cheese to go with your whine?

Just consider it karma for all the trouble you've been.

 

Love,

 

Dice

 

PS.

 

are you sick?

the comic is warped, I think the seller knew it.

I just received my comic purchased from a seller on this board, not happy at all. I should have known better when the comic was priced $75 less than previous GPA. I just figured a CGC 9.6 with white pages was the real deal, but no it's warped and has a 1 1/2 inch line running across the lower back page. I just can't believe something with a line running across would be graded a 9.6. The seller never showed a copy of the back and I just never thought to ask. Oh well, and as far as the warped issue, I'm guessing that is from sitting in the CGC case but who knows. I'll tell you folks, it's getting harder and harder to get a fair shake.

PS: I also placed this in the General for a much larger view.

My friend, you are exactly right. I should keep my mouth shut instead of trying to make comments about how or what is going on here. Thought I was helping, but turns out I just created an angry lynch mob.

BucOne,

we are all human...it is easy to post off the cuff or at a first knee jerk reaction. I often typed, paused for a few seconds before I click "submit" and decided not to post. For every post I made here, I probably deleted or not submitted just as many. Mostly because I know how I am. It is easy to shoot out a smart post to a comment or a reply I felt is "idiotic" at the time by another poster or simply something I disagreed with... After a few seconds, cooler head prevailed...but that is just me.

I have commented many times via PM to other board members about the "crazy" prices that some sellers asked so you and I and just about everyone here have at least once or more think the asking price is out of wack but so be it. I only have been on this board actively for 2 months (I lurked for about 7 months) and I rarely see a book that was sold here that is not inline if cheaper than GPA so I do believe like anything else...if you price it right, there is always a buyer. If you can't sell in 48 hours then there are 2 reasons...the book is overpriced or the book is not wanted and the seller will reduce or take it off the market. The other reason is the economy but at the right price, some people will find some ways to get the book if it is a key book.

Now, have you sold that X-men 1 9.2 yet? if not, let me know and I will send you an offer and don't shoot me if I say your asking price is WACKO

very true

 

Overall, I would like to apologize for not carrying out my obligations and for criticizing others auctions.

 

Glad to hear it. I really, really think you owe Adam an apology, but let your conscience be your guide.

I agree, Adam I'm sorry for overreacting and intruding on your selling thread. It was very rude and unprofessional of me.

Overall, I would like to apologize for not carrying out my obligations and for criticizing others auctions.

wow, I didn't know this entire issue with Filter created this hot topic but I am surprised BucOne even admitted his true intention about his comments about the ASM 129 sale.

 

Here is my comment to Adams via PM minutes after BucOne posted about that book back on 11/25

 

"not my business but I think you have a stalker. It doesn't take a genius because the cert is the same on your book and the one he linked from CL so his "discovery" is more than "hey, look at the pic, it is the same book"

 

I think he is trying to sabotage your sale by showing others you paid $1600 and now try to sell yours for $2k plus.

 

I am well aware of the spat between you 2 from that Batman thread but to me,this is a cheap shot of trying to undermining another person's sale.

 

just my 2 cents"

 

BucOne, I even read Roy's comment on the other sale thread when he tried to stick up for you but damn man, you have that "I am against the world" kind of mentality.

 

What is wrong with making a profit if you can? I bet that X-men1 9.2 that you tried to sell and advertised for a while would have net you 5 figure profit.

 

We have exchanged PM when I first joined (although I have no idea why), but it was civil but for the most part, I see that many here don't like you for good reasons but you are set to not even care to fix anything...It is a damn shame really.

 

For my part, I have not bought a book from Filter. I have bid on a few books on ebay and didn't win any yet so I have nothing to gain here. The price of the ASM 129 is irrelevant, if he priced it too high, then he will have to lower it. Hell there are dozen of books every week on this site that I can see from doing a little research that the books were bought just weeks/months ago for much less....and when I see that, I won't make an offer or wait for the price to be discounted...that is all.

My friend, you are exactly right. I should keep my mouth shut instead of trying to make comments about how or what is going on here. Thought I was helping, but turns out I just created an angry lynch mob.

As much as I appreciate your concerns, we all have the right to do what we feel is right. I don't want to beat a dead horse, but feel there are several members who come to this site in search of a good deal and shouldn't be mislead.

 

By "mislead" (it's "misled", btw) I'm assuming you mean "try to sell books here and have the buyer flake on them"? Because, yeah, that's kinda the purpose of the probation list - to warn members about the people who do this sort of thing (thumbs u

 

ahh, no...maybe trying to over charge for books. Trying to re-sell a book at 40% profit in less than 2 months is nutz. Anyway, I'm here to help the little guy and won't let you big bad wolves try to take advantage.

 

 

Are you in high-school or college or maybe work for the goverment?

You seem to have no real world experience at making a living.

 

it's okay to make a profit, but to gouge your fellow board member is taking it to the extreme. btw, making a living by selling comic books on this site sounds very risky to me. I thought this was a hobbyist community.

 

 

How did he gouge anyone? He bought low and sold high. Sales 101 right there.

Are you jealous or what? You keep harping about "he sold a book for more then he paid for it". Please explain what is wrong with that?

 

A lot of the posters here are comic dealers that use this site, and others, as a means to supplement thier income by selling books to people all over the world instead of being limited to the walk in traffic at their brick and mortar store. When you post an and then disappear and never follow through on the deal, you have affected that person ability to make money. Of the two, it is you who the little man should be protected from.

 

I see it's pointless, but anyway this is NOT Ebay, this is a HOBBY message board. Besides, the comic books were sold, so no worries.

 

I'm really trying to understand where you're coming from, but I just don't get it. You're mad that Adam made a profit on that book? Is that it? Did you ever bother to wonder how many books he sold for a loss? Not that EITHER of those things is any of your business, but you seemed so preoccupied by how much money Adam makes at his job. (And yes, comics are Adams job...)

I have seen several books being purchased and then placed on this board at a substantial increase. It just happen to be his book that I pointed out. I also mentioned Roy's book as well.

As much as I appreciate your concerns, we all have the right to do what we feel is right. I don't want to beat a dead horse, but feel there are several members who come to this site in search of a good deal and shouldn't be mislead.

 

By "mislead" (it's "misled", btw) I'm assuming you mean "try to sell books here and have the buyer flake on them"? Because, yeah, that's kinda the purpose of the probation list - to warn members about the people who do this sort of thing (thumbs u

 

ahh, no...maybe trying to over charge for books. Trying to re-sell a book at 40% profit in less than 2 months is nutz. Anyway, I'm here to help the little guy and won't let you big bad wolves try to take advantage.

 

 

Are you in high-school or college or maybe work for the goverment?

You seem to have no real world experience at making a living.

 

it's okay to make a profit, but to gouge your fellow board member is taking it to the extreme. btw, making a living by selling comic books on this site sounds very risky to me. I thought this was a hobbyist community.

 

 

How did he gouge anyone? He bought low and sold high. Sales 101 right there.

Are you jealous or what? You keep harping about "he sold a book for more then he paid for it". Please explain what is wrong with that?

 

A lot of the posters here are comic dealers that use this site, and others, as a means to supplement thier income by selling books to people all over the world instead of being limited to the walk in traffic at their brick and mortar store. When you post an and then disappear and never follow through on the deal, you have affected that person ability to make money. Of the two, it is you who the little man should be protected from.

I see it's pointless, but anyway this is NOT Ebay, this is a HOBBY message board. Besides, the comic books were sold, so no worries.

As much as I appreciate your concerns, we all have the right to do what we feel is right. I don't want to beat a dead horse, but feel there are several members who come to this site in search of a good deal and shouldn't be mislead.

 

By "mislead" (it's "misled", btw) I'm assuming you mean "try to sell books here and have the buyer flake on them"? Because, yeah, that's kinda the purpose of the probation list - to warn members about the people who do this sort of thing (thumbs u

 

ahh, no...maybe trying to over charge for books. Trying to re-sell a book at 40% profit in less than 2 months is nutz. Anyway, I'm here to help the little guy and won't let you big bad wolves try to take advantage.

 

 

 

 

Are you in high-school or college or maybe work for the goverment?

You seem to have no real world experience at making a living.

it's okay to make a profit, but to gouge your fellow board member is taking it to the extreme. btw, making a living by selling comic books on this site sounds very risky to me. I thought this was a hobbyist community.

Currently: 34K bid up. Counter offer from seller pending.

Bid option closed until counter offer expires.

We might see it changing hands soon.

 

Ang.Sil

the seller should take the 34k offer and run.

1) joeypost (I'm Nelson)

2) r1970d (no, I'm Nelson)

3) thehumantorch (I'm Nelson)

4) Count (I'm Nelson; no, really - I am)

5) DRX (I'm Nelson)

6) flatrock02 (I'm Nelson)

7) slym2none (I'm Nelson)

8) scottish (I'm Nelson)

9) Paratrooper (I'm Nelson)

10) blue808 (I'm Nelson)

11) divad (I'm Nelson)

12) Jeffro (I'm Nelson)

13) ad2416 (I'm Nelson)

14) Boozad (I'm Nelson)

15) Diggler (I'm Nelson)

16) trmoore54 (I'm Nelson)

17) Povertyrow (I'm Nelson)

18) Chromium (I'm Nelson)

19) sakaridis (I'm Nelson)

20)JerryZ (I'm Nelson)

21) AJD (I'm Nelson)

22) Bosco685 (I'm Nelson)

 

you ppl crack me up

probably the back married, it's a big neg for most collectors.

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clown, I don't know you, so if you have a problem we can handle this face to face.

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#1701365 - Yesterday at 08:32 PM Re: look

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If you have a dream about out-posting me, you better wake up and apologize.

Registered: 11/25/03

Posts: 2821

Where do you live?

 

in the end it doesn't matter, If I want a book and have the money, trust me...Money wins!

 

 

Not with everyone. I'll start a list

 

1) joeypost

 

Anyone care to join?

 

Me neither. There are people I will not deal, period.

 

1) joeypost

2) r1970d

Hey Roy, why would anyone buy your AC #23 when there is one on Ebay for the same price @ 4.5?

 

I told you where I live Adam/Filter81, so let's go! and you're side kick Count. Anyone who comes on the boards with a sn like that or is dumb enough to sell 85 HG ASM for a 6.0 extensive sp Batman #1 6.0 needs help.

 

I even was civil enough to tell him in a nice way to back off instead he told me to f u k off. I'm sure this person wouldn't have the guts to say that to anyone in person, Especially anyone named Nelson.

 

Threatening board members can get you a strike. Be careful.

he asked me where I lived and I told him, so what's your point?

When I first started my account, right away I purchased a few items, but one of the sellers (Comicgrinder) was nasty and mean with his responses, so I decided not to purchase anything from him or the other seller (foolkiller)

 

I'd like to see those responses if you still have them. Those two individuals were and have been nothing but helpful to me when I first became a member here. Why would a seller be mean and nasty when hes trying to sell you something and make new customers. That makes no ing sense.

 

DRX

it was only Comicgrinder, maybe it was because of his problems with his wife..I dunno but he isn't getting my business. Foolkiller was cool at first but when I tried to make amends, he was nasty, response was leave him alone.

 

Adam,

 

There isn't a chance in hell that any vile that this guy spews is going to have any effect on your reputation. What you choose to do is, of course, your business, but this guy shouldn't factor into it. To say he's insignificant would be an understatement. The last defense of any weak-minded person is to spew lies, hoping that someone will buy into it and give weight to their argument. He's failed miserably. Roommate?

 

I really do understand that even the simple act of responding to this clown in the first place gives him more credibility than he deserves. And I know what people are thinking when they read the thread. (And fortunately he's not even a good liar. I have the auction text. I have his E-mails. I can very easily prove who is telling the truth and who isnt.)

 

But what about a potential scenario where someone sees an eBay auction of mine, doesn't know me, Google's my name, sees only Bucone's post and decides not to bid on my auction? If 499 people read his posts and realize who and what he is, and 1 person reads a post out of context and it costs me 1 sale.. how is it fair that his lies cost me a sale?

 

I do know I'm over-reacting, but this is a very sensitive topic for me. Years ago, I had a pretty successful comic business where I was doing almost 100% of my sales through eBay. I woke up one morning and it was almost as if overnight half of my highest dollar auctions were ending with non-paying bidders. I got frustrated and stopped selling on eBay for quite a while. It wasn't until last year I found out the reason behind the slew of non-paying bidders. Another dealer (who I don't even think knew me at the time) was E-mailing my winning bidders on high dollar auctions any time I got a good price and he had a similar book, and encouraging them to buy his books instead. He was doing so by making accusations that I was a con-artist using stolen scans to sell books I didn't own and warning people not to send money. I was relatively new to comics at the time and apparently some people believed him because they'd never dealt with me before. And my business suffered because of it. When I see people like Bucone posting I have a bad habit of over-reacting. And since I can't stop him from acting like an , the only other thing to do is take a few days off.

 

Besides, today's a day to give thanks. I don't want to spend any more of it arguing with someone like BucOne! I appreciate the responses & PMs though and I'm sure I'll be back in a few days.

show us the proof

I told you where I live Adam/Filter81 and your side kick Count.

Yes, you finally disclosed restoration, but you originally did not, which was my point.

Sorry it wasn't me, now on the other hand my roommate may have been. Btw, how could

your auction be ruin by someone who didn't even win it? I think you need to be upset with

the person who won the auction and didn't pay, not someone who didn't win, regardless if

they had more than one bid. There are thousands of auctions with multiple bids, but only

one winner.

So maybe you should leave the boards.