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Gatsby77

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  1. On 4/20/2024 at 7:01 AM, Bosco685 said:

    Not to worry.

    Someone on here will proclaim none of that is factual - that local tax breaks were $500M to counter any production and marketing expenses - and that it is only other studios that spend more. Not Disney.

    This is more than once Disney has been caught at manipulating the production budget news working through industry reporting sites. Remember GotG Vol. 1's news ($232.3M instead of $170M).

    Not comparable.

    Because reported movie budgets are money the production *actually spent* (i.e., net of tax incentives).

    The reason your insistence in reporting GotG Vol. 1's budget at $232.3M is wrong (and why literally every site other than that single Forbes article continues to report the budget of $170M) - is the studio only had to lay out $170M.

    So it throws your entire chart off - because you don't add back in the tax breaks given to every other superhero movie production of the last 20+ years as well.

    Again, movie budgets are reported *net of tax breaks* because they reflect money actually spent that needs to be recouped.

  2. Oh wow - I remember that storyline (having bought it off the shelf) - and had no idea they did a 2nd printing.

    I thought about it lately because sometime in the last month I saw an auction house had an original art page for sale from # 445-447 - and it really irked me that they misidentified the antagonist as the KGBeast. Rather, it was his protege - the NYKDemon.

    Haven't read the books in 30+ years but they stuck with me - that whole run from 400-500 was truly amazing.

  3. On 3/31/2024 at 2:18 PM, Readcomix said:

    It’s certainly nice if more foundational Marvel creators are getting a taste of $$; I can also understand them all wanting it straight for personal legacy reasons. I have no idea where the line is correctly drawn — I had no clue about Romita; I always thought Herb created the look but I guess I was wrong. (His widow is alive and is someone Chase could talk to. Paty was a Marvel writer at that time too.)

    If anything, Claremont and Miller IMO could argue that their fleshing out of the character is more important than who created him. Without them, did he remain just another hero in an ensemble cast? (I’m not suggesting they list a half dozen creators, just pointing out the other side.) Wolverine is a more corporately evolved character than some, as opposed to a character that came out wholly conceived and has changed little from original vision (eg — Elfquest or TMNT)

    Yes - this is my issue with Deadpool as well.

    Yes - Liefeld and Nicieza created his look, mannerisms and dialogue for at least his first two appearances (obvious Deathstroke plagiarism aside).

    But most of the defining characteristics of Deadpool as we know him today (the saracasm, breaking the 4th wall, etc.) came later - with Joe Kelly's run in the late '90s.

    So...does Joe Kelly deserves co-creator credit -- because it was his writing that made the character truly popular - and he (not Liefeld) wrote some of the most enduring characteristics of the character?

    Should Jim Lee be given co-creator status for Psylocke - since British Betsy Braddock with the purple hood is so radically different from the Japanese assassin we first meet in X-Men # 256-258 - and who later appeared in the X-Men movies?  

  4. On 3/31/2024 at 2:03 PM, media_junkie said:

    I guess my biggest issue is (if I am reading the article correctly) Roy Thomas up and said he helped create Wolverine in 2019 (45 years after the character hit the comics), and he had waited until after 2 of the 3 already credited creators had died and the third was 89 years old.  I'm not saying he did help create and I'm not saying he didn't but it isn't like Wolverine just "blew up" in the last couple years, so why didn't he claim to have created him back in the 80's or 90's?

    This.

    Seems mad shady to wait that long, *particularly* after not only the deaths of the primary folks who could refute his claims but also after Wolverine had already appeared in more than half a dozen films.

    As many self help gurus have stated, "Ideas are cheap - execution is what matters."

    Here, the execution was the character and costume designs - as well as dialogue - created in Hulk 180-182.

  5. On 3/11/2024 at 3:20 PM, Axelrod said:

    Problem with adapting Narnia is every book after the first one.

    I give credit to the last effort which petered out after three books for giving it the old college try and making what I thought were mostly above average films.  But the story is just tough.

    Maybe they can just skip The Horse and His Boy and The Magician's Nephew?

    I'd be more than okay with books 1-4, then The Last Battle.

  6. On 3/7/2024 at 6:45 PM, paperheart said:

    Chandor has made two good movies but can he rise above the stink that is the Sony non-animated SpiderVerse? The trailer didn't give me the warm and fuzzies, it was more encouraging than anything MW showed

    (low bar alert)

    Ahem! 3 good movies.

    • Margin Call
    • All Is Lost
    • A Most Violent Year
  7. I don't think I ever finished New Mutants...

    Was extraordinarily stoked for that one based on the trailer, but by the time I finally tried to watch it via streaming years later, it just wasn't worth the time to complete.

    At least Jonah Hex and Ghost Rider (1 and 2) were all in the "so bad they're good" categories.