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On 9/22/2021 at 5:51 PM, Yeahiwasder4dat said:

What tier?

Economy.  Which I think was like 45 days when I submitted but I can't remember.  Now it's 120 days so they hit the target if you go by when they marked it as received.  

Received my first batch of cards back today.  So order arrived at CSG April 13 and arrived back to me September 22.  5 month turn around even though they will say it wasn't that long because they didn't check the package in until June 23 so 3 months turn around if you go by that clock.  

Second order delivered by USPS on May 7, marked as received on 8/27 and currently scheduled for grading.  

On 9/13/2021 at 9:35 AM, ne1seenmykeys said:

When has PSA ever been at a year turnaround time? Please prove that with screenshots, and thank you in advance.

And even IF CSG's estimated TATs get lengthened they literally update it as soon as they do, so what's the problem? 

Btw, the TATs have literally not increased since you made this post, which was Aug 17th, so looks like your little theory has been proved wrong so far. 

 

Before they closed down.  I don't have personal experience with PSA but I heard plenty of people complaining about 1 year turn around on economy grading.  That is why PSA shut down to catch up

On 8/19/2021 at 2:25 PM, ne1seenmykeys said:

It won't take a year, guaranteed. Their turnaround times, even at 200 days or whatever crazy number it was, isn't a year. 

I have received two orders back from them, both in 4-5 months, and it was not too long over their estimated TAT

But I’m sure times are going up.  Opening group submission and then raising the prices caused a mad rush to submit. So I’m sure turn around will be progressively longer 

PSA was at 1 year turn around for a while and I think they were a lot more prepared to handle the submission volume than CSG was. 

Shipped one order 4/8, delivered by USPS 4/13, marked as Received 6/23, Scheduled for grading last week and I'm guessing it will be sitting  in that status for another month or two.  

Second order shipped 5/3, delivered by USPS 5/7 and hasn't been marked as Received or entered into system yet. 

I submitted with expectation that turn around would be 1 year.  Anything less and that will be a bonus.  It looks like I might get first order back around 6 months turn around.  I won't be surprised if my order from May takes a year

10 hours ago, NicholePer said:

Thank you for your question. There isn't a link to show a backlog; however, there is a link to indicate what week we are working on. https://www.csgcards.com/submit/services-fees/csg/

When it says:  Now opening submissions delivered the week of May 5th, 2021.

Does that mean opening submissions that were actually delivered May 5 or ones that were marked as received? Because my order was delivered in early April but marked as received 6/23 and still says scheduled for grading.  

3 hours ago, nbuff52 said:

SGC has definitely slowed a bit.  I got a 6 card sub that was received on 7/14 and is still in the received stage.  Still much faster than the competition, but not as fast as they were about 2 weeks ago.

My first CSG order was delivered by USPS on April 13, scheduled for grading June 23 and hasn't  been updated since.  My second order was delivered May 7 and hasn't been received by CSG yet so it seems like they are slowing down

11 hours ago, Rob420 said:

your correct , ill most likely never sub with csg again unless they get there stuff together , i finally got word some of my cards are coming back graded but some are waiting on the "thicker" slabs and none of them were thick cards (another csg lie and them cards are now being held hostage)  , but in a few weeks psa should open back up and that should help with turn around times with csg as they will lose a lot of business back to psa and ill send the bulk of my cards to them (esp for selling as csg resale is around gma pricing ) and ill keep sending cards to sgc (hope they drop the price soon ) . I really wanted to see Csg a yop player in the business but first impressions say a lot to me and man i dont have a good one.

I heard Nat Turner on a podcast this week and he said that PSA opens back up they definitely won't be opening fully up.  Probably just going to be higher level submissions like they were doing before they closed and not doing economy or group submissions until the backlog is done and he said they still have millions of cards in their backlog.  

On 6/22/2021 at 9:43 AM, Rob420 said:

sgc knows whats its doing cureently esp with turn around time , i wish they were a tad cheaper but ill take my cards back in 7 to 10 days vs 40 plus weeks (sub know now at bulk it will march or april before you geth them back smh) , once psa opens back up you will see turn around time get better as ppl will go back to them , csg to me has dropped the ball on many levels and i just want my cards back , been waiting since march19th 

Dropped the ball is an understatement.  They had a one time opportunity to steal business from competitors and they blew it.  SGC is basically doing what CSG could have done.  If PSA has their backlog situation sorted and opens up with 1 week turn arounds like SGC than it will be over for other companies.  

My first submission was marked as received today!  over two months after it was actually received but it's progress

same here.  CSG has been in possession of my cards for over 2 months without them even being marked as received.  I hope they are actually hiring lots of help and soon the pace will pick up considerably.  I'm not sure how SGC can shut down for a month and go from severe backlogs to 1 week turn around and CSG can't do the same thing

57 minutes ago, jdmtdcollector said:

agree with you on this. I like my slabs clear. Makes the cards the focus not the slab. This is the reason not really into HGA. I acquired a black refractor RC in SGC slab. cant even tell where the border of the card is without close inspection lol. I thin k SGC is better for vintage or white bordered cards. But pass for me, just not for me, I agree they are legit, just not my style.

Yeah and it depends on why you are grading.  The appeal for SGC right now is for the flippers

31 minutes ago, jdmtdcollector said:

Outside of PSA, BGS and CSG the other groups dont really appeal to me. Its just my personal choice, the black tuxedo slab I just cant find appealing. Maybe for older vintage cards or topps card, white cards that may look good in the slab but I have a black refractior RC in SGC and not really digging it. Not really a fan of HGA slabs.

Yeah, visual appeal is definitely personal preference.  I don't particularly like PSA, BGS or SGC slabs.  I really like the look of some HGA but there is nothing else that impresses me about them.  I really like the look of CSG slabs.  I think CSG labels need some improvement.  I like the layout with sub grades but witthout subs the labels have too much empty space.  I think they could also change color and logos but that gets into their brand identity so that's another discussion.  I am very confident in CSG's actual grading so far and I think they will rise in value eventually.  My biggest concern for value/ROI etc is that pop report seems like it's becoming more and more important to collectors and investors and I think that gets confusing with so many companies now and some that don't even keep a report

HGA does AI grading and they recently graded and authenticated a fake Brady auto card so I don’t trust it yet   

On 6/4/2021 at 5:20 AM, nickdrizzle said:

Grading / Quality Control 6/4

SGC is turning around orders in less than 2 weeks at $30 half the price of CSG express

On 5/7/2021 at 6:20 PM, BFeld said:

Welcome to the club.  My order was delivered two weeks prior to yours and still no status update.  Hoping this is not the new norm for grading companys (weeks or even monhs just to check in an order).

SGC turn around is less than 2 weeks now at $30

7 hours ago, IceHole said:

My Standard submission of 7 cards...

Mailed 4/28

Delivered 4/29

That's it...hasn't even been marked as received.  The wait game is real.

Is that for SGC or CSG?  My CSG sub was delivered 4/12 and not entered yet

$30 is their cheapest level now and they are quoting 20-25 days and average from people on other forums is around 2 weeks now.  This feels like a missed opportunity for CSG. They probably should have come in with higher prices if they didn't have the resources to handle the high volume.

I would say the same card with subs will always sell for more than the same card without subs if it's the same exact card being sold at same exact time in same exact market etc.   

3 hours ago, Sean Power said:

The card did spend most of its life in a screwdown holder because I was young and didn't know any better back in the 90s. Could that be a reason for it to come back as trimmed? I could see that a screwdown might compress the edges but that wouldn't shorten the height/width at all...

Did they specifically say it was trimmed?  I know other grading companies will consider cards to be altered if they were flattened at all from being in a screw down holder.  

21 hours ago, northkorea said:

For what it's worth, 7.5mm = 295.276 pt.

I don't know what thickness the current holders accept, but that makes it seem like most cards up to 130pt or so should fit.

Seems that way.  But people on Blowout have been complaining about stuff thicker than 35pt getting returned ungraded.  

On 5/17/2021 at 7:19 AM, ModernChris said:

What does panini do with all of this product. Do they sell boxes online direct very often? If so, how do we know when?

I love ripping packs, I'm a collector. But I'm not paying resale prices. 

I heard VP of sales for Panini on a podcast recently.  He said Target isn’t canceling orders so I’m guessing they plan on selling products online or eventually selling in store after changing process.  He also said they are selling retail products to hobby shops now

Crack and resubmit somewhere else.  It seems like CSG is one of the toughest graders which I see as a good thing.  I have PSA 10 cards with obvious dings on a corner.  For what it’s worth there are a lot of people on Blowout complaining about how strict PSA has been with recent returns 

I just ordered the Randy Johnson.  That is by far my favorite of his so far.  The purple color scheme looks awesome, it has a Undertaker feel to it.  And he's got the bird in the background, it's one of the few perfect P70 cards for me so far.  I missed the Acuna card somehow and don't want to pay $50+ for it now especially with how high that print run was.  I got Trout and Hayes and skipped the Mays card because it was too much werewolf and not enough Willie for me.  If I can pick that one up cheap on the secondary I probably will down the line.  

I don't remember but I'm going to guess it was 1986 Topps baseball.  That was definitely the year I started collecting and I remember having a lot of 86 Topps baseball and then a lot of 87 Topps baseball.