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I'm pretty sure estimates are just estimates and subject to change

I have one delivered May 7 and one April 13 and neither is in the system yet.  They do say they were received and CSG has possession of the packages.  Mine are both economy and second was entered last day before increase.  I'm expecting 1 year turn around so anything better will be a bonus.  

I’m sending 55pt.   I’m banking on the fact that it’s going to take so long to get to my order that they’ll have thicker holders by then

I tried to get a box on Panini's site this morning but they sold out in about 5 minutes.  I bought in a couple of breaks.  I just got into collecting UFC cards recently so I'm excited about this product!

How many unemployed experienced card graders are there?  There are four relatively big players all trying to increase staff to meet demand.  I can't imagine there are enough people to step and and start grading cards at every company.  I don't want my cards graded by someone that they hired with no experience and trained for a week or even a month.  I do think PSA, CSG, BGS and SGC could have done a better job of forecasting the demand and did things they seem to be doing now several months ago like adding additional facilities and increasing the less specialized staff like customer service and shipping and receiving.  

Does anyone know if 55 pt card is within acceptable thickness to submit?  I have a couple of UFC auto cards that I want to submit.  I don't consider those to be thick cards, they are not relics but slightly thicker than base Chrome cards

what was the verdict on this?  When I look at the site all I see is that soon they will accept cards up to 7.25mm but how thick is acceptable now?  I have some auto cards that I believe are about 110 pt so is that acceptable now?

I got a message from customer service today that they are currently working on packages received the week of 3/15

I am happy with the responsiveness and transparency of their customer service.  I emailed twice and got responses in under 24 hours and I got real answers to my questions with more detail than I needed and not just some scripted response.  My first shipment was delivered to them 4/15 and I'm going to send another before price increase.  I expect to be waiting anywhere from 90 days to a year to get my stuff back at economy grading price so anything faster will be a bonus.  The posts I've seen from people that have gotten stuff back already have been very pleased with both the holders and the accuracy of the grading.  

I made a new submission but decided I might want to include a couple of more cards.  Anyone know if you can modify order to add cards or make a new submission and put both in the same box to ship?

Not surprising at all but I think they should have waited until more people got their first submissions back before jacking the price.  But I am wishing I sent everything I wanted to get graded in on my first order instead of a small test order

On 4/17/2021 at 1:02 PM, whos fabio said:

the latest. 

seems like his work has gotten progressively worse since the acuna.   

this looks like a combination of rorschach and the joker coupled with disjointed limbs/tentacles.

this is low effort and a poor player choice.

 

I bought it.  I like the player choice.  Not a Yankee/Dodger.  Not Acuna, Soto, Tatis or Trout.  The first rookie card of Project 70.  Maybe not the hottest prospect/rookie that he could have chosen but a good prospect and I was a fan of his father's so all makes it an interesting enough buy for me.  

12 hours ago, Mike Mm said:

Reading through this thread and seeing so many people in the same boat as me makes me even more frustrated with CSG.  They are advertising all over FB and other social media yet haven't put the infrastructure in place to handle the intake of cards.  My order was delivered on 3/24 and I was told at the time is was 5-10 day turnaround to receive and now coming up on 4 weeks!  This was a trial run for me with CSG and so far it's failed, I'd rather wait 6-9 months to get cards back from PSA since I know they will have value in the market place.  #frustratedwithCSG

5-10 day turn around for what?  to enter into the system?  My first order was delivered 4/13 and not entered yet.  Economy which now as 75 day estimated turn around which I believe is from time they are entered into the system.  Of course they say those are estimates and could change.  If I get my cards turned around in 90 days I'll be happy and I went into it expecting at least that long.  For $15/card I'll be patient since other options are paying $75/card or more somewhere else right now.  You can wait 3 months for PSA to re open and then still have a year turn around on economy tier and from what I've heard there will probably be a new increased pricing structure once PSA opens.  The biggest complaint I have with CSG right now is that they already opened the floodgates to group submiters which will certainly slow things down.  Not a ton of comps yet but I picked Lamelo Hoops rookie.  No PSA sales on  ebay that I've seen so far but several CSG and SGC and CSG 9.5 have sold for decent premium over SGC 10 like $150-180 for CSG 9.5 vs $100 for SGC 10 so that's promising.  Some people on blowout forum have posted comparisons of CSG slab vs other brands and CSG slab seems like it is the nicest of any company, opinions on the label are subjective but the actual slab seems much nicer even compared to PSA.  CSG also seems to be grading tougher which I appreciate and I think will add premium in the long term.  I already have more confidence in the condition of a CSG 9.5 vs PSA 10 because I've seen PSA 10 that have obvious issues like corner wear.  Not to mention there are hundreds or more cards at PWCC in PSA holders right now that have been called out for being trimmed or altered and all from a small group of submiters.  It concerns me that PSA has graded so many of these cards from the same submiters and many of them have been proven to have been cards previously graded lower by other companies and altered and resubmitted to PSA and getting higher grades at PSA.  

In conclusion, I'd like to get my cards back quickly but my early impression of CSG is pretty good

I think I bought about 10 so far but I'm getting serious Project 70 fatigue with the endless Yankee and Dodger players.  3 Lasorda cards already?  But I love the Ermsy Dock Ellis last week.  But I'm just buying ones I like and ignoring the rest.  

7 minutes ago, ItismeH said:

When I made my submissions, I declared the value on my items as I thought they would grade and based on FMV comps.

I know that is what PSA wants because they upcharge you stuff based on graded value.  If it's strictly for insurance then I don't think CSG would pay out hypothetical graded FMV if something happened to the cards.  Besides I'm not a professional grader and it's my first time getting anything graded so I'm sure my estimations will be off by two grades.  The other problem is there are no comps for CSG graded versions of any cards I submitted and hardly any CSG sales data on ebay yet.  So far I'm estimating 75% of the value of similar graded PSA but there really isn't enough data to judge acurately

1 hour ago, robotur said:

Still need clarification, are we putting the ebay value of the raw card or potential value of the graded card.  should it be the raw value since we have no idea what the final grade will be.

 

 

 

I mailed off my submission today.  The way I take the wording from CSG is declared value is the value of the raw cards you are sending in for insurance purposes so you can be compensated if something happens to them.  So I put down fair market value of raw cards I sent

search CSG graded.  Since CSG is new to cards there haven't been many listed on ebay yet but they are picking up now as people are getting stuff back

technically Panini is the manufacturer and Hoops is the set

13 minutes ago, PunsRTonsOfFun said:

CSG has a page dedicated to this:

https://www.csgcards.com/submit/declared-value-policy/
 

It explicitly says price guide which is why I used Beckett.

 

Thanks, I read that.  It still doesn't specify if they are asking for fair market value of raw cards or the expected value of card after grading.  

When creating a submission it's not clear to me what value I should put in declared value.  Other companies specify that declared should be the expected value of the graded card.  The CSG submission form doesn't specify, just says enter estimated value of your collectible.  

7 minutes ago, John M Young said:

I am pretty sure it is value after grading.

how many raw cards do you see for sale for over $100.00? 

These days, a lot!  Lamelo Blue Ice just sold for about $6k raw on ebay and his other 2021 Prizms are selling for $300-400.  Some of the other rookies are going for over $100

But maybe I'll ask on the ask CSG to get an official answer.  Thanks

1 minute ago, Skintightwand3 said:

no it is value of the card before grading so find it on ebay and put that in there

Ok thanks.  PSA wants you to declare the estimated value after grading and it wasn’t clear what CSG is asking for.  

How is everyone determining declared value when submitting?  I assume this is value of the card after it's graded?  If that's the case there is very little sales records for CSG cards so far but I'm thinking 75% of the same card/same grade in PSA holder?  I doubt I'm going to find sales info on CSG graded versions of cards I'm submitting