Bio-Rupp

Just received my bomb proof package from Frank. As always, top notch. M

... so you feel that in the scenario I offered, that Foolkiller should go on the list (don't worry Brian, this is just a scenario ) ? That people should be aware that he was working 14 hour days and slipped on shipping... so he should go on the list? In this scenario, putting him on the list would be punishment. The only awareness would be that we would be "turdz" for putting him on the list. ...and if my dog dies, you may never get your books You're missing the point entirely. People aren't automatically added to the Probation list - it's up to you, the wronged party, to step forward & take the necessary action in order for this to happen. It's also up to you what constitutes a probation list offense - the base guideline is 30 days after a buy/sale took place, but if you want to stretch this to 40, 50 or 100 days, it's not like anyone is going to prevent you from doing so. And if you want to cut the seller some slack because you know he's dealing with a personal crisis, that's your decision as well. But if a seller (or a buyer for that matter) isn't able to fullfil his obligations within a very reasonable timeframe (which 30 days certainly is), why wouldn't you want the rest of the board to be made aware of this? No I totally get the point of the list. divid in his quote stated, more or less, that there was no room for error if you miss the 30 day time frame. Just think that there are circumstances that make this null.

Naw we can deal anytime... I ship fast even in the wake of personal tragedy

... so you feel that in the scenario I offered, that Foolkiller should go on the list as a problem shipper (don't worry Brian, this is just a scenario ) ? That people should be aware that he was working 14 hour days and slipped on shipping... so he should go on the list? In this scenario, putting him on the list would be punishment. The only awareness would be that we would be "turdz" for putting him on the list. ...and if my dog dies, you may never get your books

Again not wanting to argue... I was just going by this...

Not wanting to argue divad... but I got to disagree with you. Yes the 30 day window is plenty of time. Yes the buyer and seller should fall between that time frame. It just doesn't always work out that way. I personally care if you lost your job... or your grandmother died. There are a lot of not only good sellers here, but downright great sellers here that might possibly slack sometimes in their professional lives due to reasons beyond their control. How they handle it should be the reason to throw them on your "list". I won 2 books off of Foolkiller which took 41 days to get to me. He had been putting in extra hours at work & simply didn't get them shipped out. He definatly made it up to me with what I call the most awesome pile of freebies ever. We all know who Foolkiller is right? I'd put him in pretty much the top 3 sellers on the boards for consistant shipping and grading. Does he not have his act in order? According to you, his slight lax on getting me my books would warrant an immediate trip to "the list". 30 days is 30 days. I disagree. Sometimes life just gets in the way. God forbid you to ever lose your job & have a close family member die the same week you have to ship out comic books. Or in that same week your wife is crying because the cancer treatments she's having is making her hair fall out. Or you're one missed payment away from having your car repossessed and you were just hit with a huge tax bill on the same day your child gets diagnosed with diabetes. You should care divad, this is your community.

Just a note that I received my order of this book from Jay a little while back. The book came out nice and looks great. Did it take a while to get here? Yes. Did he answer my concerns in his posts? Yes he did. I'd like to ask the boardies who purchased this book to stay the course and not ask for refunds from the man. Self publishing has to be a b---tch not to mention expensive as hell. In reading his posts on the thread, it appears that he has put his heart and soul into trying to self publish this thing... and everything from the economy to the printer has tried to "beat" this man down. I'm sure if Jay didn't return a PM, he either missed it or has been trying to put food on his table in the wake of losing his job. Sounds like he needs our support more now than ever.

Dealt with the "Tiger" on multiple occasions... looking forward to dealing with him more.

Are you reading the same thing I am? The only reason GAC got his money back from Paypal, not saying he wouldn't have gotten it back from TF, is that he has a long history of no problem transaction. I.e., it's a courtesy thing for a longtime customer. It doesn't mean the credit card dispute has been resolved, at least as far as Paypal is concerned. In my mind here's the rank of innocent parties: 1) GAC 2) TF 3) Ebay/Paypal While TF may not think he has (or even actually have) done anything wrong. GAC has done even less to be inconvenienced. Whether TF intended it, his actions resulted in a great deal of inconvenience to GAC. I am perplexed that he keeps calling out GAC as having done something wrong. It sounds to me like TF didn't initially respond to GAC's PMs, emails, etc. and GAC had to go through a lot to get the money back in his account, none of which was the result of TF's actions. If I were in TF's spot, I would feel bad for somehow having caused GAC inconvenience. I'd be mad at Ebay/Paypal but I would be cognizant of the collateral damage there. All I'm saying, and not taking either side, is ... 1) Money was refunded 2) Explanation was offered. Both sides can salvage their business relationship if they want to without the board's help either way. just

Seems over to me. As long as it was just a little inconvienence and aggrevation, I think you fellas can come back out of this as business associates and friends. When it comes to large amounts of money, everyone gets jumpy... but all is good now right? So shake hands guys and lets call it a day.

I owe Frank money right now... and I want to spend more with him. Bring on the books Frank! M

Paul was one of the first people to buy from me on the boards... plus I've bought a few items from him. I have nothing but high regards for his service and friendship. Simply great to deal with. M

Please leave me feedback if you want. It will be greatly appreciated. Many thanks to everyone I've dealt with so far! Michael

major kudos to catrick339 !!!! Awesome book. Many thanks,

major kudos to comicdey !!!! Awesome book. Many thanks,

Big freakin' kudos to Shootydog . Great lot of Wonder Woman and a awesome bunch of freebie reads made this transaction the best for September. Rock on sir!

Yes you do! Just to warn us not to deal with him.

That's a fair point. I guess what I'm getting at is that the last offenses that weren't cleared up with a little communication were thrown right to the HOS. My concern is that if people keep bypassing the probation list and go right to the HOS, the HOS will lose it's impact. Kind of like having your favorite food for dinner...it's great once in a while, but it loses its appeal if you have it every night. Not a great analogy, but it works well enough. And to be clear, I am very aware of the whole AlleyBat/VTcomics scenario. In fact, it was my first read in the probation area. However, as has already been discussed, value shouldn't be the only determining factor in induction into the HOS and the fact that AlleyBat was eventually revealed as a shill several times over helped out my first point...he was well-known (maybe infamous is a better word) board member before the scam went down. As for the people saying that machinegunned only intended to scam people from the get-go, I get that. He had no intention of delivering any product and his intent was malicious. I could say that 'at least everyone got their money back', but that argument has more holes than a block of swiss cheese...I'm not sure even RMA could successfully defend that point (although he'd try tooth and nail if he felt like it). However, the fact that he intended to scam people and leave lends to the fact that he was very fly-by-night. Especially now that he's been banned, he won't be coming back under the same name and there would be no getting off the probation list anyway. I think that most people who get scammed on here will feel that their particular scammer should go into the HOS. That's a natural reaction. I'm just thinking that if everyone starts bypassing the probation list and going right to the Hall of Shame, will people even pay attention to the probation list anymore? I'd like to state again that I am in no way defending machine gunned. I always appreciate a civil discussion. I understand you are not defending Machine Gunned... but if flat out stealing from someone doesn't justify a total ban and HOS status, what does? I mean if Machine Gunned broke into your home and attempted to steal everything in it, but got caught or thwarted in the process... wouldn't you think that he should be brought up on charges regardless of wether he got anything out of your house or not? This guy was a THIEF.... plain and simple. He deserves to be treated like a THIEF and "prosecuted" like one as well. The only good thing that has came from my experience with him is that now we boardies have coined the term "Machine Gunned". He will live on in infamy!

I second this. Get him on the Hall of Shame and help prevent someone else from getting scammed in the future. A good idea, but most likely if he comes back it will be under another screen name. The HOS listing should have the real name he gave everyone and his general location. Now thats a great idea! I am all for it. I wonder how CGC will feel about that as posting someone's real name (he deserved it) could come back to haunt them. You're correct. Hey did I ever tell you who my favorite muscians are...? Wu Tang Klan, Mariah Carey & Pete Townsend. Oh and Steven Tyler just got pushed off stage by Joe Perry. The clip is everywhere.

I second this. Get him on the Hall of Shame and help prevent someone else from getting scammed in the future. A good idea, but most likely if he comes back it will be under another screen name. The HOS listing should have the real name he gave everyone and his general location. Now thats a great idea! I am all for it.

I think Paypal has refunded everyone affected by the malicious MachineGunned. I'm requesting Hall of Shame status for him due to a deliberate attempt to deceive and steal from multiple board members. This person was here for one reason only and that reason was to steal. We are all very lucky that Paypal actually came in there for us this time.

Anytime Shark ! Thanks a bunch (thumbs u

I'm fine with waiting till the 30 days are up, but I say he goes in the Hall of Shame, not on the Probation List. He ripped off a lot of people .... All the more reason to get him on there now... I feel the quicker we get that "loss" on the list, the more people we might be able to make aware of the problem MachineGunned has been... that said I do understand that 30 days is the rule. I'm just hoping that majority rule will get him on there quicker.

I know it hasn't been 30 days yet but I think that MachineGunned needs to go ahead and be added to the probation list. I've received no contact back from him... and no product either. Can I get a second motion from anyone to add him to the list now?

Right on, Joanna... Glad it got there safe! Right back atcha, Mike! Glad you dig them, Keith! Further kudos are due, both to the three above, as well as capt_comics, nwpassage, honky cat, icouldbe, MisterX, phil50, Shootydog, Bio-Rupp, Scrooge, and Comicopolis for quick payment and great communication. awesome cats to work with. And on the flip tip, kudos to seanfingh for a sweet Caliber Presents to finish my run, shipped Quick! Bach atcha Cimm ! (thumbs u