Spider-Dan

Jerry is a no nonsense buyer! Quick to post the and even quicker to pay! Thanks!

I'll try to sum up and move on Heres what we've learned Spider-Dan is a dishonest Boardie who's sales threads are run unfairly. He likes to leave himself an oou so he can maximize his profits. He also loves to remind people that he's involved in numerous charity threads, and that he sends comics to kids at Christmas time. He has his head so far up his arse he cant see his flaws even after repeated having them ponted out. He also ends up causing all sorts of drama. RMA has an excellent grasp of the English language and sadly looks down on those who don't. Not sure if it's a real disorder or not, but he cant stop telling others how to think and how to act. He does some buying and selling privately. He has a hard time looking at situations through other peoples eyes. His opinions are very strong and cannot be changed. I think that's it. I'm ready to let this die, but I have a feeling RMA or his friends will not let it.

I used "your" and "click" to prove you can't stop correcting people Ahhh...... to be perfect

I wish I didn't have to go to work.... I could do this all day!

You know I can read these posts, right...? Well, you did put me on ignore a long time ago because I expressed the idea that, in a post-apocalyptic society, gold may well not have value and things that would have value would be food, medicine, knowledge of how to do things etc. You PMd me I was "coming at" you and immediately after the PM put me on ignore. But I assumed you'd be reading these posts anyway, so no surprise. I expected it. Ah. Gotcha. You're still bothered that I put you on ignore 5 years ago, and don't want to let go of a conversation I'd forgotten years ago. I didn't put you on ignore because you disagreed with me, Pov, I did it because of the way you express yourself. Not saying it's right or wrong, but it doesn't work for me. You should do the same, if you don't like the way I express myself, instead of adding to the negativity on the board. It's nothing personal, Pov, so you shouldn't make it personal. I red your posts here because it was part of this discussion. That shouldn't come as a surprise, no. Be careful... some people will judge you for this. Just trying to "help"

That's the problem Dan, you just don't get it Good Luck (Figured I would save you the time )

Are we even reading the same thread?? I know my spelling sucks - but that's just sad That's what everyone has been saying all along, Dan. You don't think you did anything wrong. You highlighted it yourself everyone

You are absolutely right. The situation HAD nothing to do with you. But your continuing unsolicited advice or "help" as you call it, brought you into it. And I did apologize originally when it all happened publically and privately. But what you don't seem to understand or acknowledge is that in my eye's the only thing I did wrong is not get to the PM fast enough so I could mark it sold for him. That doesn't mean I still don't feel bad for Mike does it? You feel bad for him and you did nothing wrong in this situation. Go back and re-read both the threads (I warn you it's mind numbing) you will not find any statement made by me saying "too bad Mike" or "tough ", so STOP saying I didn't empathize with him. Having never dealt with this type of situation, I did what I felt was right. No matter which way it went, someone was going to be upset, so the best choice was to follow the rules I created. Whether you agree with them or not, they were there and I made the right decision. Many people at the time agreed with me. You and others didn't. I can't change that. Of my many successful sales here on the Boards this is my only (I think) hiccup. And it got blown WAY out of proportion. That's probably my fault for starting the apology thread. Again, I was trying to do what's right. I never said you don't buy and sell. I just said there were no public records of you buying or selling out of the 2200 posts this year. I have to be honest though... the few I clicked on did have you correcting what some people were saying. So that does make it feel a little less personal.

Go back a few pages and see how it it started I didn't re-open this can of worms. I simply stated that this is how I run my sales thread even though Ive been ridiculed for it. My post was not aimed at anyone nor did it mention anyone specifically. Mike chose to chime in and take a few shots at me. Fine. I took one shot back and then left Mike alone (even though a few more were fired my way) That doesn't mean my apology back in August was insincere. That's just stupid to think that. Because RMA repeats it over and over again, that somehow made it a fact?? Feelings change right? Howard Stern and Rosie O'Donnell becoming friends proves that. So I'm not going to spend the rest of my days saying sorry every time the incident is mentioned. RMA decided to voice his opinion about the situation. By doing so he called my character into question. He's quick to point out things about others, so I pointed out something about him I found interesting. Because we don't see eye to eye on the intent or sincerity of my apology that makes me dis-honorable? Do you really believe that? If you don't like me, or think I'm an a-hole, or don't like the way I run my threads.... That's fine, I accept that. But don't call me dis-honest or not honorable. That's what's wildly_fanciful_statement As far as the sheep comment, sorry. CG is more of a click. And if your not in it... Oh Boy!

Your right. What I meant was there's nothing wrong with not buying or selling.

Apology - a written or spoken expression of one's regret, remorse, or sorrow for having insulted, failed, injured, or wronged another: I didn't ask for your help. I'm learning it's your way to give advice or "help" everyone on here Maybe, but here's something about you may not be aware of.... I went back and looked at your recent posts. I stopped at Jan 1. There were 2200 posts, and not 1 where you are buying or selling a comic. But a WHOLE lot where your trying to "help" people. I'm not saying that's wrong, I just find that interesting

No, Dan, that's the heart of the entire problem, and WHY your "honor" is being called into question. If you want to "agree to disagree", then your honor will continue to be questioned, and you will not escape it until you decide to have some empathy. You have just rejected the whole point of the entire conversation. Most unfortunate. Oh well, I tried. Complete waste of my time, but I tried. Good luck. Seriously?? How do I not take your posts personally? Please change the record, it seems to be broken. Who are you to decide if my apology is genuine or not? It's up to the person recieving the apology to decide. But of course since I disagree with you, I'm wrong. You must have a really long stick to reach the dead horse from way up there on yours?? Let it go. In the 113 page thread at the end we were all talking about music and here you are 15 pages later reminding everyone how wrong I was. The lecturing is getting old. You preach to everyone else to learn to take constructive criticism, maybe you should look in the mirror. Now please get the last word by saying I don't get it and how you feel sorry for me kudo's for trying to get everyone to be sheep and think like you though and please don't waste any more of your time on me. Oh.... and these remarks arent personal, im just trying to make you see how your unjustly treating people so you can go forward

If you really mean that, then really make a real apology, one without qualification. See what Revat posted. Swallow your pride, do it, and make it stay done, no more snide responses about it, and then anything more will be on Tranny, not you. Try to understand where Tranny would have been put out, and make the effort to see things through his eyes. You don't have to agree. But acknowledging that someone was upset by the situation you created, without saying "I apologize, BUT here's where you were wrong...." goes a long way towards mending fences. Here, I'll go first: Dan, I'm sorry if you feel I have portrayed you unfairly in this discussion, or if I was unfair to you in the course of the original situation. That wasn't my intention, but if that's what you think, my intentions don't really matter, whether I agree with your conclusions or not. I'm only trying to get you to see things from another perspective, and working to avoid a similar situation going forward. I'm not your enemy, and am really trying to help, but I understand if you don't see it that way. Thank you for the clearing up your intentions. I gladly accept your apology. I said some things to you out of anger that turned personal to which I am sorry for. I tend to see red when my honor gets called into question. (And being married to a Greek woman doesn't help talk about having to be defensive!) I will TRY from here on out to not take criticism so personal. Get's frustrating when you get involved in doing good here, and it feels like it all gets washed away from one incident. As far as Mike's apology... agree to disagree

You just made several dozen OLD board members spit their coke all over their monitors with laughter. You continue to say I don't or didn't care, but that's just not true. By continuing to say it people start to believe it. Your comments are painting me in a way that makes me out to be all about the money. Of course it's nice to make a profit, but if you look around at other threads I'm involved in you'll see I'm far from greedy, and consider myself a member of this community. This is one incident that got blown way out of proportion. Unfortunately I've been involved in a few other Friday threads but none have proven me dishonest or wrong doing. I can't help that my ego gets bruised easy, that's just how it is. At least I made you laugh

You're still not getting it, Dan. Oh well. I think your not getting it. My apology was for not answering the PM fast enough to finish the deal. That's it. Not for selling to the other party, not for running my sales threads the way I do. Had I read the PM, I would have then given the option to post it, or I will post it for you as I always do. I do feel bad about the way it happened. I know the winner just wanted the book to flip, and the other Boardie would probably still have it in their collection. That's not hinging on whether they accept that apology or not. But it does make me feel less bad (?) when the digs keep coming. Keep the facts separate from the opinions. You can dislike the way my threads are run all you want, but that's your opinion. The fact is I can run them any way I want. You voice your opinions on here that get backed up by a few of other Boardies, and they somehow become law. You seem to do everything right and never make mistakes. Congrats. You must feel that way because you have no problem telling everyone else how to do things. I agree, things are changing around here. The new generation of Boardies aren't putting you on a pedestal like your used to.

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Maybe you should at least be consistent. I just now searched and you do both "all PMs" and "all PM negotiations". But it's your sales thread and your idiotic policy to begin with. It's what caused a kerfuffle when we worked out a deal via PM before someone posted a in the thread and you refused to honor the deal. Not that I have to worry about it as I'll never do business with you again nor will, according to PMs I've gotten, several other people on here. But stick with whatever works out best for you. Still?? Oh no - You and your "PM buddies" won't buy from me You know, if you showed a little remorse and understanding, even if you don't agree with Tranny's position, it might go better for you. Instead of mockery, why not "You know, I'm sorry that deal didn't work out better. I may not agree with your position, but I know it didn't sit well with you, and I'm genuinely sorry about that. I'll try to do better with others going forward."...? That way, if Tranny still brings it up, he, and not you, would end up looking like a tool, and Tranny's ok with looking like a tool. No remorse?? I extended the Olive Branch publically and humbly apologized for the way the deal went down, to which he did not accept. I'm sure there are more snotty remarks between then and now, I just happened to see this one.

Maybe you should at least be consistent. I just now searched and you do both "all PMs" and "all PM negotiations". But it's your sales thread and your idiotic policy to begin with. It's what caused a kerfuffle when we worked out a deal via PM before someone posted a in the thread and you refused to honor the deal. Not that I have to worry about it as I'll never do business with you again nor will, according to PMs I've gotten, several other people on here. But stick with whatever works out best for you. Still?? Oh no - You and your "PM buddies" won't buy from me

I didn't mean to imply that you did It was just shown that it could be

It was explained in a thread a while back that a PM timestamp can be manipulated. If someone thinks a seller is already being underhanded, what makes them think they wouldn't do this?

I've been criticized for this - " IN the Thread Trumps ANY and ALL PM negotiations " But it really is the fairest way. As a seller if we agree in a PM, and you want to keep it private, I will try my best to mark it for you in the thread. But you run the risk of losing it to someone who posts in the meantime. As a buyer, I know I run the risk of losing the book by keeping things private. I can see why you'd get criticized for it. Posting " IN the Thread Trumps ANY and ALL PM negotiations " doesn't cover done deals by PM, only ongoing negotiations. Someone agrees to a deal with you. Both sides accept. Everyone believes there's a deal. Then there isn't. Most people would expect a done deal...with both parties accepting the deal as something beyond "negotiations". Negotiations are over at that point, all that's left is the contract. It allows for a loop hole of you and a buyer agreeing and then, perhaps there's an unavoidable delay in posting the book sold...maybe for a day or two, and then someone takes it for full price in the thread. Perhaps even after you've been paid. So, yes, I can see the criticism to which you'd be opening up yourself. But the deal isn't "DONE" (In my threads) until it's marked publically in the thread. And that's explained to anyone who has asked for a private deal. The only delay that I've run into is using my phone at work. I drive a hi-lo, so if I'm in the middle of something, there may be a short delay. Other than that, I immediately post in the thread. Maybe I should change it to - IN the Thread Trumps ANY and ALL PM's