SOTIcollector

Captain America Comics from 1941 is a very valuable comic. A complete copy with its cover would sell for tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands depending on condition. A copy in the condition you describe would still be valuable and very sought after. People even collect single pages from that book.

Is this a comic that has not previously been certified as CGC Signature Series? If that’s the case, then the signature is not relevant to the grading tier. Just submit it as he would submit any other comic. CGC will treat it as a comic that has a writing on the cover, because that’s what it is.

Heart Throbs 79 contains the panel that Roy swiped from for his "Sound of Music." (the last panel on this page)

First off, I'm sorry for your loss. If I were CGC, I'd consider the prior grade, including page color, to be completely irrelevant. The old label shows the grade including PQ, in the opinion of the graders, back when it was originally graded. When it was re-evaluated, the graders deemed it to be a different PQ. There are two possibilities here: The pages haven't changed at all, and the more recent graders had a different opinion. The pages have aged and have lost some of their whiteness since the original grading. CGC does not, and should never, take into account a prior grade when re-grading a book, because a grade can and most likely will change over time. Even under the best of conditions, the pages will eventually get browner. Under less-than-perfect conditions, the book can be damaged (shaken comic syndrome, for example) and the book can age poorly in its slab (especially with exposure to light, heat and/or moisture). So a prior grade should never matter on a regrade.

Same here. I had no clue till I fell into this rabbit hole.

True. I once faded some books pretty badly by keeping them in a lighted display case.

Yes. The reds are usually the first to fade.

I can't figure out why the last couple rows of the table above keep coming out askew. Something's wonky, and I've tried fixing it a few times without success. Well, here goes the list of as-yet-unidentified works. This includes the works posted at ImageDuplicator that seemed to me to be comics or comic related. It does not include any of the nudes or works that seemed to me to be unrelated to comics. Ok, comics sleuths... how many of these can you find? Artist Lichtenstein Painting or work Painting Year Painting URL Source of Painting URL Notes Howard Purcell Art in America Cover [Guy exclaiming "Great Rings of Saturn"] 1964 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/3793_01.jpg Tony Abruzzo Blonde Waiting 1964 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0008_01.jpg Ted Galindo Conversation 1962 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0521_01.jpg John Romita Crying Girl 1963 1963 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/3782_01.jpg Eccentric Scientist [image of hand and ring, sans face] 1965 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0258_01.jpg Perhaps I missed it, but I haven't found this yet on Barsalou's site. John Romita Frightened Girl 1964 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0174_01.jpg John Prentice Girl at Piano 1963 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0125_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/21929_01.jpg Mike Sekowsky Girl In Mirror (study) 1964 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0249_01.jpg Barsalou found a Sekowsky panel matching "Girl In Mirror (study)". That image was mirrored (really!) and altered for the final "Girl in Mirror". John Romita Girl with Hair Ribbon 1965 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0278_01.jpg Mike Sekowsky Happy Tears 1964 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0217_01.jpg Tony Abruzzo I Know How You Must Feel, Brad… (b&w prelim) 1963 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/studies/33165_01.jpg This is a B&W image with the same title as the color "I Know How You Must Feel, Brad…", but a different image. Tony Abruzzo I… I'm Sorry 1966 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0351_01.jpg Barsalou and ImageDuplicator each posted different source images; none looks like a perfect match to me. I…I'll Think About It 1965 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/1681_01.jpg Mike Sekowsky It is… With Me! 1963 https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/3/it-is-with-me-pop-art-world.jpg Myron Fass Kiss I 1961 1961 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0069_01.jpg Ted Galindo Kiss II 1962 1962 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0090_01.jpg Mike Sekowsky Kiss II 1963 1963 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/3168_01.jpg Barsalou and ImageDuplicator each posted different source images (you'll find ImageDuplicator's image under Kiss II from 1963). Barsalou's seems to be the correct one. Little Big Painting 1965 ImageDuplicator says that the source is the same source as Brushstrokes. That seems to be a stretch. Tony Abruzzo Matchbook with Comic Attached 1960 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/5011_01.jpg Hy Eisman New York World's Fair Mural (Girl in Window) 1963 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/1331_01.jpg Tony Abruzzo No Thank You 1964 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0214_01.jpg Tony Abruzzo Oh, Jeff… I Love You, Too… But.. 1964 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0232_01.jpg Pistol 1964 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0229_01.jpg Barsalou has some similar images, but none seems to be the… ahem… smoking gun. Popeye 1961 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0514_01.jpg I need to review Barsalou's possible source images. Joe Kubert Reckon Not, Sir [chin] 1964 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/3172_01.jpg Barsalou presents two possible source images; MR. Ayers for most of the face, but Joe Kubert for the cleft chin. That's why there are two rows here. MR. Ayers Reckon Not, Sir [face except chin] 1964 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/3172_01.jpg Barsalou presents two possible source images; MR. Ayers for most of the face, but Joe Kubert for the cleft chin. That's why there are two rows here. Arthur Peddy Reverie 1965 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/3538_01.jpg Mike Sekowsky Seductive Girl 1964 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0218_01.jpg Tony Abruzzo Shipboard Girl [girl's face] 1965 The image might come from Girls' Romances 97, but evidence to support that is not posted at ImageDuplicator. Sweet Dreams Baby [face] 1965 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/3539_01.jpg Tony Abruzzo Tension 1964 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0230_01.jpg Jerry Grandenetti Tex! 1962 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0097_01.jpg Untitled(Pair) 1963 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0135_01.jpg Varoom 1965 1965 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/1046_01.jpg Varoom! 1963 1963 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0122_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20936_01.jpg Numerous possible sources exist; the one with Dr. Fate should not be especially hard to locate. Vicki! I Though I Heard Your Voice! [text] 1964 https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/21922_01.jpg Jay Scott Pike Vicki! I Though I Heard Your Voice! [Vicki's face] 1964 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0248_01.jpg Fingers crossed that the last couple rows of this table display correctly...

Whew. I have a bunch of information in Excel, and have struggled with a way to present it here that is legible. I went with having the Excel create an HTML table. I think that works well, but I'm open to suggestions if you know of a better way to get data like this displayed. First off, here are ones that I could find that have been identified. Each row represents a painting or other work by Lichtenstein, except in the cases where multiple rows are needed because the painting had multiple sources. I included most of the attributions I found, even if the attribution seemed to be incorrect. When I seemed to be incorrect, I noted it as such in the "notes" column. I would have loved to include images of all of the works noted here. However, I've read that the Lichtenstein estate works hard to prevent such use of Lichtenstein's work (even when it's a work that he copied from somebody else), so I'm just putting URLs here where you can find those images if you wish. Source Title Source Issue Date Text Artist Lichtenstein Painting or work Painting Year Painting URL Source of Painting URL Notes Adventure Is My Career nn Mel Keefer Mr. Bellamy 1961 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0058_01.jpg All American Men of War 89 January-62 Russ Heath Blam [Plane image] 1962 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0070_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20071_01.jpg All American Men of War 89 January-62 Russ Heath Brattata 1962 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0075_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20071_01.jpg All American Men of War 89 January-62 Jerry Grandenetti Jet Pilot 1962 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/3163_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20075_02.jpg All American Men of War 89 January-62 Russ Heath Okay, Hot -Shot, Okay [incoming plane] 1963 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/1200_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/21920_01.jpg All American Men of War 89 January-62 Russ Heath Okay, Hot -Shot, Okay [text "okay hot shot"] 1963 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/1200_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/21920_01.jpg All American Men of War 89 January-62 Whaam! [exploding plane] 1963 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0137_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20072_01.jpg All American Men of War 90 March-62 Jerry Grandenetti As I opened Fire… 1964 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0074_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20077_01.jpg All American Men of War 90 March-62 Ross Andru Bratatat! 1962 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0280_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20078_01.jpg All American Men of War 90 March-62 Russ Heath Okay, Hot -Shot, Okay [text "voomp"] 1963 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/1200_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20154_01.jpg All American Men of War 90 March-62 Ross Andru Von Karp 1962 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/2071_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20079_02.jpg All American Men of War 90 March-62 Whaam! [foreground plane] 1963 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0137_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20076_02.jpg All American Men of War 106 November-64 Blam [Text "Blam"] 1962 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0070_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20135_01.jpg ERROR. Painting was in 1962; ImageDuplicator says the text image is from this comic, but the comic was published in 1964. Atom 6 April-63 Gil Kane Fastest Gun 1963 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0124_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/21578_01.jpg Atom 6 April-63 Gil Kane Trigger Finger 1963 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0128_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/21580_01.jpg Battlefield Action 40 February-62 Bill Molno Takka Takka 1962 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0081_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20047_01.jpg Billy the Kid 43 December-63 Rocco Mastroserio Foot and Hand 1964 Barsalou shows two possible source images by Mastroserio. Only this one has a cowboy boot, so this appears to be the correct source. Buck Rogers comic strip unknown George Tuska Emeralds 1961 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0060_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/21915_01.jpg Falling In Love 41 March-61 Pendant [2 of 2] 1965 ImageDuplicator has two similar images as sources, but neither is an exact match. That's why this Lichtenstein work has two rows. Falling In Love 41 March-61 Tony Abruzzo Thinking of Him 1963 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0139_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20086_01.jpg G.I Combat 94 June-62 Russ Heath Okay, Hot -Shot, Okay [pilot face] 1963 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/1200_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/21921_01.jpg Girls' Romances 78 September-61 Tony Abruzzo Cold Shoulder 1963 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0734_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/21887_01.jpg Imageduplicator shows two different source images, each of which seems to have this same woman. Barsalou seems to show a third image (with a different word balloon). Girls' Romances 78 September-61 Tony Abruzzo In the Car (30 x 40 inch version) 1963 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/1053_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20768_01.jpg Girls' Romances 78 September-61 Tony Abruzzo In the Car (68 x 80 inch version) 1963 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0130_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20768_01.jpg Girls' Romances 78 September-61 Tony Abruzzo Kiss IV 1963 1963 https://www.imageduplicator.com/main.php?decade=60&year=63&work_id=127 https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/21889_01.jpg Girls' Romances 81 January-62 John Romita We Rose Up Slowly 1964 Girls' Romances 97 December-63 Tony Abruzzo Anxious Girl 1964 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0216_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20284_01.jpg Girls' Romances 97 December-63 Tony Abruzzo Betty! Betty! (study) 1963 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/1601_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20094_02.jpg Girls' Romances 97 December-63 Jay Scott Pike Good Morning Darling! 1964 Girls' Romances 97 December-63 Tony Abruzzo Him! 1964 Girls' Romances 97 December-63 Tony Abruzzo Kiss V 1964 1964 Girls' Romances 97 December-63 Tony Abruzzo Shipboard Girl [life preserver in background] 1965 Girls' Romances 105 December-64 Tony Abruzzo Sleeping Girl 1964 Girls' Romances 110 July-65 Tony Abruzzo M-Maybe 1965 Heart Throbs 79 August-62 Arthur Peddy Sound of Music 1964 Heart Throbs 82 February-63 Arthur Peddy Nurse 1964 Heart Throbs 84 July-63 Mike Sekowsky Kiss with Clouds 1964 Justice League of America #12 12 June-62 Eccentric Scientist [face that appears in the ring] 1965 Perhaps I missed it, but I haven't found this yet on Barsalou's site. Justice League of America #12 12 June-62 Mike Sekowsky Mad Scientist 1963 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0733_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20064_01.jpg Little Golden Book Donald Duck Lost and Found Bob Grant and Bob Botten Look Mickey 1961 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0057_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/21211_01.jpg My Greatest Adventure 84 December-63 Bruno Premiani Image Duplicator [eyes and eyebrows] 1963 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0140_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/21916_01.jpg Our Army At War 115 February-62 Joe Kubert Live Ammo (Take Cover!) [eye close-up image] 1962 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0099_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20422_01.jpg Our Army At War 115 February-62 Joe Kubert Live Ammo (Take Cover!) [text "Take cover"] 1962 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0099_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20423_01.jpg Our Army At War 119 June-62 Joe Kubert Live Ammo (Blang!) [Firing gun and "Blang" text] 1962 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0100_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20051_01.jpg Our Army At War 119 June-62 Joe Kubert Live Ammo (Blang) [tank image] 1962 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0100_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20433_01.jpg Our Army At War 119 June-62 Joe Kubert Scared Witless 1962 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0108_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20432_01.jpg Our Army At War 121 August-62 Joe Kubert Live Ammo (Blang) ["Blang" text] 1962 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0100_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20438_01.jpg Perhaps I'm missing something. It looks like the entire painting came from OAAQ 119. Am I missing the piece(s) of #121 that were used? Our Army At War 121 August-62 Joe Kubert Live Ammo (Take Cover!) [man and ammo belt image] 1962 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0099_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20439_01.jpg Our Army At War 121 August-62 Joe Kubert Live Ammo (Take Cover!) [text "Right (about) now if they're watching me..."] 1962 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0099_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20435_01.jpg Our Fighting Forces 66 February-62 Joe Kubert Grrrrrrrr! 1965 ERROR! The picture at ImageDuplicator is not a match at all. Only the text partially matches. It seems likely the source is OFF #66, but ImageDuplicator just posted the wrong source image. Our Fighting Forces 66 February-62 Joe Kubert Live Ammo (Take Cover!) ["where did it come from" text] 1962 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0099_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20461_01.jpg Our Fighting Forces 68 May-62 Irv Novick Flatten-- Sand Fleas! 1962 https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20049_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20049_02.jpg Our Fighting Forces 69 July-62 Jerry Grandenetti Arrrff! 1962 https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20470_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20470_02.jpg Our Fighting Forces 69 July-62 Jerry Grandenetti Live Ammo (Tzing!) 1962 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0101_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20463_02.jpg Our Fighting Forces 71 October-62 Jack Abel Torpedo…Los! [face at periscope] 1963 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0118_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20475_02.jpg Our Fighting Forces 71 October-62 Jack Abel Torpedo…Los! [periscope and background] 1963 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0118_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20059_01.jpg Our Fighting Forces 95 October-65 Joe Kubert Sweet Dreams, Baby [fist] 1965 Barsalou shows two Kubert fist images that seem to be equal matches for the fist in this painting. At least one of those images came from OFF #95; the other source is not known to me. Secret Hearts 83 November-62 Tony Abruzzo Drowning Girl 1963 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0117_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/21213_01.jpg Secret Hearts 83 November-62 Tony Abruzzo Hopeless 1963 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0116_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/21212_01.jpg Secret Hearts 88 June-63 John Romita Crying Girl 1964 1964 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/3352_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20099_01.jpg Secret Hearts 88 June-63 Tony Abruzzo Ohhh All Right 1964 Secret Hearts 88 June-63 R-R-R-R-Ring 1962 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0724_01.jpg Both Barsalou and ImageDuplicator have pictures of sources; none seems to be an exact match. Secret Hearts 91 October-63 Pendant [1 of 2] 1965 ImageDuplicator has two similar images as sources, but neither is an exact match. That's why this Lichtenstein work has two rows. Secret Hearts 124 December-67 Girl In Mirror [found at ImageDuplicator] 1964 ERROR! Painting is 1964; comic is 1967. Barsalou seems to have found the source for this; ImageDuplicator's attribution of Secret Hearts 124 seems to be incorrect, especially given that the comic didn't come out until three years after the painting. Star Spangled War Stories 102 April-62 Jack Abel Crak! 1963 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/3783_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20101_01.jpg Star Spangled War Stories 102 April-62 Irv Novick Live Ammo (Ha! Ha! Ha!) 1962 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0102_01.jpg ImageDuplicator has a completely different (and incorrect) image noted as the source. Baraslou has identified the correct source. Steve Roper comic strip nn August 6, 1961 William Overgaard I can see the whole room! … And there's nobody in it! 1961 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0062_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/21221_01.jpg Strange Suspense Stories 72 October-64 MR. Giordano Brushstrokes 1965 Sue and Sally Smith Flying Nurses 50 March-63 Kiss II 1963 1963 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/3168_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20622_01.jpg ERROR: ImageDuplicator posted an image from this comic, but it is clearly not the source for this painting. ImageDuplicator also posted a second possible source image, but that source is a much closer match to Kiss II (1962) than to Kiss II(1963). Superman 158 January-63 This Must Be The Place [1 of several] 1965 A number of the futuristic buildings seem to come from Superman 158. I need to come up with a reasonable way to identify which is which. Thimble Theater nn July 23,1961 Bud Sagendorf Wimpy (Tweet) 1961 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/1040_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/21903_02.jpg Winnie Winkle nn July 16, 1961 Martin Branner Engagement Ring 1961 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0076_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/21215_01.jpg X-men 1 September-63 Jack Kirby Image Duplicator [helmet] 1963 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0140_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/21917_01.jpg Young Love v5#6(31) April-62 Ted Galindo The Ring (Engagement) 1962 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0103_01.jpg Young Love v6#1(32) June-62 Ted Galindo Eddie Dyptych 1962 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0095_01.jpg Young Love v6#1(32) June-62 Ted Galindo Forget It Forget Me 1962 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0113_01.jpg Young Love v6#1(32) June-62 Ted Galindo Kiss III 1962 1962 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0731_01.jpg Young Romance 127 December-63 John Romita Craig!! 1964 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0215_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/20728_01.jpg Young Romance v15#2(116) February-62 Ted Galindo I Know How You Must Feel, Brad… [ color painting] 1963 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0126_01.jpg https://www.imageduplicator.com/images/sources/21930_01.jpg Young Romance v15#2(116) February-62 Ted Galindo Masterpiece 1962 https://www.imageduplicator.com/sat/sat_big_image.php?image_name=images/works/0083_01.jpg Fingers crossed that the last couple rows display correctly this time. I've tried several things, but each time the last couple rows are out of whack.

Whew! Okay, I think I'm just about ready to emerge from the Lichtenstein rabbit hole. I went to the ImageDuplicator site and noted Lichtenstein's works that seem to have a comics source, along with any attribution that the site provides for the sources. Then I spent a bunch of time with David Barsalou's amazing "Deconstructing Roy Lichtenstein", adding artist attribution where he's found it. Then I went through this thread and did some Googling to try to fill in some gaps. What I have is a list of Lichtenstein works, artists, and sources. I'll be posting that here once I get some of my notes cleaned up. Here's a teaser of the artists: Jack Abel Tony Abruzzo Ross Andru MR. Ayers Martin Branner Myron Fass Ted Galindo MR. Giordano Jerry Grandenetti Bob Grant and Bob Botten Russ Heath Gil Kane Mel Keefer Jack Kirby Joe Kubert Rocco Mastroserio Bill Molno Irv Novick William Overgaard Arthur Peddy Jay Scott Pike Bruno Premiani John Prentice Howard Purcell John Romita Bud Sagendorf Mike Sekowsky George Tuska

Wow! Me too!

That has been my experience as well. I have never seen CGC use the term “graffiti” for a signature. They have used something along the lines of “(name) written on cover” for all of the ones I have seen. Here’s an example.

As for your question about how CGC confirms that it was signed at one of their events, it all has to do with a chain of custody. If you have it signed at a CGC event, then CGC retains the book immediately after the signing, and encapsulates it. Then they send it back to you with certification. If at any point you remove the book from his holder, then it is no longer certified, and can never be recertified by CGC. Does that help?

CGC certifies only signatures that they witnessed, with one tiny exception. In some circumstances, they also certify signatures they received directly from the creator who signed it. That’s it. If you have a comic with a name written on it, CGC could give it a qualified grade, or they could deduct from the grade because of the writing. Under no circumstances, would they validate a signature on a book that you have. That is not one of the services they offer.

I'm sure Wertham said it had that early code seal. But Wertham said a lot of things.

It’s an unnumbered issue. You have my heartfelt gratitude for your desire to notify LostSOTI.org, because that’s my site. I’ve added this to a list of updates the site needs.

I'm no expert, but I'd say it's the inker Keith Williams. Here's a signature borrowed from an online source.

Ummm.... that was a test to see if you were paying attention? Actually, I used two different names for the book, and they were both wrong. I have now corrected that. Thanks for catching my goof, and for being so kind about it. I have a ton of goodies for trade, so I'd be happy to trade for or buy that draft dodger story from you.

Yes, that’s exactly it. I completed the collection of all known SOTI books, and now I’m hunting down items I think of as indirect SOTI stuff. Technically speaking, Dynamic #17 isn't even a SOTI book because Wertham saw the red hot poker story when it was printed in Crime Reporter #2. So I consider Dynamic 17 and Comic Crimes to be SOTI-related, but strictly speaking not SOTI books. Some other SOTI-related books I've been hunting down include: - Pre-code non-US versions SOTI books (Captain Video #2 UK version, True Crime #2 Canadian version, Wanted #12 Canadian version) - Collections of retail return books (Fox Giant, EC Annual, XMas Comics and so on) that contain SOTI books. - Relatives of SOTI books, such as the Avon paperback that gave Reform School Girl her cover, and Peter Penny merchandise. I'm also still trying to hunt down SOTI books that haven’t yet been identified, like this one: In one which has the "Seal of Approval of Comics Magazine Publishers" [referring to the ACMP code, not the Comics Code] young men fake disease to get out of the army. Coming out, as it did, during the Korean War, this lesson was directly useful to upper teen-agers and indirectly to schoolboys. "Didn't I bluff my way out of the army?" says the hero-criminal. "Got a medical discharge without having anything wrong except indigestion! If you work it right, no doctor in the world can prove you're bluffing!"

I’ve focused on collecting SOTI books for a couple decades, so it’s getting harder to find SOTI books I don’t already have. So it’s always a thrill to add a new SOTI book to the collection. I present to you, Comic Crimes, featuring the “red hot poker” story that Wertham loved to hate. Thanks to @rjpb ‘s sales thread, this is my newest SOTI collectible. It is a Canadian version of a Dynamic #17.

@ThatNerdyCanuck Feel free to reach out if you'd like assistance with any documentation for SOTI books. I'll be happy to provide a photo of the appropriate page of SOTI for you, if that helps.

And Authentic Police Cases #27 as well. Thanks! Oops. I see now that somebody beat me to the Authentic Police Cases 27. So it looks like it's just the comic crimes. Thanks!

Thanks for posting. It's always a good to ask the experts when you're a newbie. There is definitely value to some coverless comics. A coverless comic might sell for anywhere from 10% to 50% of a complete, well-worn comic, depending on how high demand it is. The comics you have pictured are Superman Annual #4, Raggedy Ann and Andy #2, a reprint of Amazing Spider-man #7 (the comic is Marvel Tales #4), a reprint of Amazing Spider-man #6 (which most likely came from Marvel Tales #3), and Amazing Spider-man Annual #4. As @Kneel Before Dox pointed out, the fact that it says "originally presented in" is your first clue to the fact that it's a reprint and not an original. It's unlikely these would sell for a lot without covers. If you want to be sure, offer them on eBay and see how high the auction goes.

The people with crazy lowballs are just a waste of time and effort. I list things with fair prices. If I get an insane lowball offer, I just block the time waster.

I'll see your $50 and raise you $25. So $75's the bid.