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Would that auction show up when folks search for "sold listings"? It seems like folks could use to create unrealistic market data and inflate prices.

simplified it for ya 🤣 But honestly there's something kinda sus about being mad about a "bunch of well known comic influencers" doing something shady while also not naming a single one. Raising awareness without naming names is kinda just marketing.

The whole point of professional consigners like C-Link and Omaha is that a buyer doesn't have to trust an anonymous seller. This is 100% a CLink and Omaha problem. The entire job of consigner exists to make sure your problem can't happen...but here we are. C-Link and Omaha both dropped the ball and are both in a position to make this right and both seem to be passing the buck. The job of a middle-man is to stand in the middle and take a cut when things go right and take the blame when things go wrong...or else what are they being paid for? This is bad. CLink needs to refund you AND send you a copy of this book if they expect to have a decent reputation. They're supposed to be middle-manning 6 and 7 figure transactions and they can't even handle a 4 figure? No bueno. edit: I just wanna say that personally, I don't think consigned books should be on the sales forum at all. These accounts are anonymous and free. If the forums allow for anything more complicated than one user selling to another...they're opening Endora's box. Maybe make a separate forum for just that kinda thing but allowing consignment is creating a scenario where fraud can happen and the only person a buyer actually interacted with can just say "wasn't me". Shaggy was not an effective customer service rep.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndca/pr/bogus-online-auto-auction-participant-indicted-bank-fraud An international online fraudster was just indicted by the Northern District of California. This guy doesn't seem to have been selling collectibles but so many of us use online auctions to buy and sell that I think this kind of action is very relevant to our hobby. I'm no legal scholar so I couldn't even find the actual indictment, just the press release form the DOJ, but hopefully it'll eventually get released and have a bunch more information. I doubt this guy was using eBay simply because the DOJ would love to put them on blast for political reasons. I think if it was eBay, that would be in the headline. But right now there are tons of auction or consignment-style websites popping up for collectibles and no one has absolutely no way of knowing if any of the transactions are legit. I'm basically phasing out online purchasing in favor of in person buying but I live in a place with tons of dealers, retailers and collectibles. I know a lotta people don't have this luxury and have to rely heavily on anonymous, online sales. Good luck out there. The internet is gettin' wild! Don't go chasin' waterfalls!🌊 Bonus ridiculous nonsense: When I looked up the guy I got what looks like a 5 year old facebook comment of him saying hi to the FBI 🤣

I love this. And you're 100% right. I have never understood the jump from Silver to Gold. I was born in the 80's, grew up in the 90's with the X-Men animated series. Spider-Man and X-Men were the first comic characters I connected with and I immediately started buying whatever was on the shelf. But buying curious and nerdy I wanted to get the WHOLE story and I knew that started in the Silver Age. Every Marvel trading card I got would have the "first appearance" written on the back. Yes, at the time I was buying Silver Surfer Vol. 3 #75 with shiny garbage on the cover but I was still being exposed to the idea that the story starts in FF #48 and that I would eventually want that piece of the story. But Marvel characters really have no meaningful connection to the golden age. Captain America and everything else marvel did in the golden age was just cynical war propaganda. They didn't build stories and those books aren't meaningful to the next generation of writers. At least on the marvel side. This actually is different w/ DC because the Silver Age characters did have more of a connection to the golden age characters. I understand folks getting into batman/superman and going back to the GA books but with marvel that line really ends at 1961. Marvel Golden Age is just not connected in any meaningful way to Marvel Silver Age and a fan won't organically make that leap without money to be made.

Ya there's a difference between scarcity and false-scarcity. When they printed up Walking Dead #1 they didn't know how big it was going to be. They printed a lot of em but people wanted A SUPER METRIC TON of them. So even though the book wasn't and isn't rare, it's still scarce. Supply ain't low but demand is sooooooo high that its still valuable. Variants are the exact opposite of this. They're false-scarcity. They are products that they KNOW don't have high demand so they try to change the other side of the equation. They realized that its good when demand is higher than supply (but don't understand or care why) so they just muck up the supply side and pretend it means theres 'more demand'. Variants are kinda, by definition, books no one will really want because down the line a book becoming popular and valuable usually comes from familiarity. If most people are getting the standard A copy right now, then thats the one that people are going to want 10-20 years from now. Look at the current market and how much value's been added to the old carnage books from the 90's that we know aren't rare...they're just cool! People like them and remember them so they are rebuying that thing they loved. If the variant is rare and not available then it CAN'T become popular. Seriously, variants are crazy and backwards and every single human dealer I talk to understand that the publishers use em to squeeze retailers...its only on the internet that folks promote them like they're real books.OP posted about someone submitting 20 copies of a modern book to CGC and honestly, I can't even begin to imagine why he thinks that's weird or unlikely or noteworthy.

Well I'm broke and gotta sell my favorite comic 😢 Ya'll mind helping me nail down the grade on this beauty before I ship her off to some lucky soul? Thanks!

Hey there! I'm wondering what ya'll think of my first Wolvie #1. Thanks for the help!

take TOS 58

Take: 70, 71 and 81 if they're still available

take: Cap America 191 - 7.5 OW $3 Action Comics 502 - 7.0 OW $2 Amz Advs 38 - 4.5 OW $1 Marvel Two in One 34 - 7.0 OW $2 MTU 71 - 7.0 OW $2 ASM 250 - 7.0 OW $12 Eerie 117 - 3.5 OW $1

Take: FF 137 - 3.5 OW $2FF 127 - 3.0 OW $2 *staple replaced John Carter 2 - 6.5 OW $1 Moon Knight 6 - 4.0 OW $1 TOS 86 - 6.5 CROW $11 Daredevil 195 - 7.0 OW $2

50 on the X-men.

I really wish Ike would keep his perverse politics out of our comics

Is it that you were 20 years younger when you read the comic? I don't know who this show is for. The demographics its aimed at kinda don't exist. No one old enough to care about the property would watch the slower, less mature version of the story they already read. BKV writes stories for kids and anyone who remembers this book from the shelves is very much an adult.

It seems like you didn't check this link you posted. They only have 2 comic dealers in that database: Frankie's Comics and The Comic Mint And both of them "specialize in variants" LOL

Sorry but that's not really technically feasible. VPNs exist. I've been a collector my whole life. But I've also been a techie. It seems like this community doesn't understand how tech actually works and just sorta repeats marketing stuff. Seriously, look at the forums. Membership and post counts are growing but post quality is dropping and everyone just says "yaaaa got too popular so the dummies moved in". Nope those are fake accounts. They invade a community and if people don't actually address it, they take it over.

That sounds like folks faking reputational gains to eventually rip off someone else. A person can just register two accounts, fake a bunch of sales between them and then use the recommendations. This board really can't function the way it used to function if it continues to allow automated account generation and activity. CGC could have the only bot-proof forum...

When you let a crook get a fools money he invests in a stealing machine. Comeon @davet75finish the thought! When crooks get paid they get more resources and steal more. When they get big enough they start lobbying like facebook. Facebook can literally do anything and have zero liability because they dumped billions into DC to deregulate advertising while continuing to regulate users. A fool and his good are soon funding terrorists because when a scammer gets big enough...they get worse.

@500hpAudiS4ummm dude. look at the cards. they're pristine. im sorry but this weird brand loyalty mess is the opposite of what CGC stands for. don't be a weirdo and stan for a corporation. cgc is nice enough to let us have an open forum and lets at least be honest about the realities of their industry. they're good and everyone is pretty much good. Don't cheapen their forum with shilling for the parent company. They dont need this cheap stunt posting.

@justafan how is your term "the block chain" not just a proprietary, privately controlled database?

@justafan yep, NFT's are a form of DRM for pre-existing digital content and guess what...DRM is bad for digital content distribution. The entire concept is based on a bunch of folks start freemium business models and then telling their investors "well when all these people pay me, you'll get big bucks" except in between they sold their platform to marketers so the fans kinda checked out and now the platforms are mostly just influencers being control by semi-automated computer-assisted bot armies.

Except this isn't an objective thing you're saying exists in the real world. Even in a digital form. This "digital longbox" only exists within the walls of a single platform. Like you don't own any of the games you buy on Steam despite them using ownership-based language. If Steam stops existing, so does your "ownership". These NFTs don't actually exist outside of the proprietary database that is selling them to you and tracking ownership. Comixology, the itunes store, etc... all of these media curation platforms are designed to erode the concept of ownership. Ya'll keep that nonsense lol. That's the rub...no matter what happens to marvel (and a whole lot is gonna come out when isaac perlmutter can't keep up with the protection payments) I still own my books. And I still own my game cartridges. And I still own my trading cards. If your ownership is platform based then it's not really ownership. You're stuck promoting that platform for the rest of your life or the asset loses its value because sure enough the jpg you bought on one database is also being sold on another database...what if the database you invested in doesn't become "the supreme NFT"?

Do you think NFT dealers are scammers? Select one: yes/no Do you think NFT's have actual, practical use cases? select one: yes/no If yes, can you give an example of a use case? This should take the form of a simple noun. Seriously, you keep doing this word salad thing when the question is real easy: scam or not. Make your stance obvious or keep mumbling.