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Or forgotten about. I have seen two new small local shops open up in the last 6 months and it's dealers who left in the late 90's who are back because comics are hot now. Trust me that stock is still out there in great shape.

Anyone want to guess the print run of Deadpool # 34 1:52 variant?

I think if you find a 5.0 it in the wild its going to be a $10 or less. Most shops dont react that quick to wild price fluctuations.

Upgraded just in the nick of time.....

Oh noooos!!!!!! My Bone # 1 first print just dropped in value.

.I sold one of these 2 weeks ago for $20.At least a 9.6 What would this get a green label if you pull off the Post office wrap?

Star Comics and Disney.....the possibilities.

That's the white elephant in the room that has been ignored. Folks like RMA would rather point out the merits of another poster's auto correct ("Cerberus" vs. "Cerebus", my phone doesn't care either, my man) or how they choose to abbreviate "Overstreet", than the fact that about the only thing Overstreet is good for at this point is maintaining the status quo for old school collectors and giving local dealers something to low ball you with when you try to sell your books. It's great that some dealers can anecdotally recount how well their copies of Cerebus sell when they have them, there will always be a buyer for a book at some price. But again, if the book had an availability that was half (or even a quarter?) of Hulk 181, It would likely not be of any interest to even the niche collectors who like to feel like they have something "rare" in their collections. Essentially the true "value" of the book is skewed mightily by the low print and nothing else. The value of hulk 181 is intrinsic and real. If Hulk 181 had the same print run as Cerebus it would probably be a 250k book in a 9.4. If Cerebus had the same print run as Hulk 181 it would probably be a 20 dollar book. I believe that is the point others have been trying to make when expressing bewilderment about Overstreet's list. And no, hulk 181 hasn't "slowed". It's actually having its best year from a price appreciation standpoint in a long time. (thumbs u -J. This post really sums the situation up nicely. The argument about price to defend why ceres is important is not valid. Yes, it is expensive. But that has to do with the low print run and NOT because it is so sought after by a lot of people. Like you say..if they were equal print runs there would be a world of difference. Few people want the book but because of the low print run the value is such that the meager demand still is greater than the even more meager supply...therefore from a business pow we would like to have the book because we know it can sell for a high price. But again...not because it's an important character...because it has a low print run.. Why is there such a surplus of people willing to chuck reason out the window...? :shrug: The entire post you just said "summed up the situation nicely" is absolutely filled with bad reasoning, flawed understanding, and borderline libel. And then, you add your own to it! There are PLENTY of books that have print runs AND census counts AS LOW, or LOWER than Cerebus #1...but they do NOT sell for four figures in 9.0+. NO ONE is arguing that Cerebus #1 (not "ceres") is important because of its value. The argument is that Cerebus #1 has value because it is important It is supply AND DEMAND which runs a market. Why does that demand exist? Do you know the history of Cerebus, and how it influenced the comics industry? Do you really believe what you just posted...? Oy, people, come ON! Why do you post such things, for all the world to see? Gentlemen...we MUST use reason! Yes, logic is king. By the way, noone is saying that Cerebus is worthless. It has some meaning and more than many other books. However, the high price is mostly due to the low supply. Let try to see if an example brings it home for you: If 1.000.000 people think book A has the most important character while 5 people think book B has the most important character. Then which book objectively has the most important character? --- Good... Now, let's add this information: There are printed 2.000.000 copies of book A. There are printed 2 copies of book B. Which book might fetch the highest price? It might very well be book B - simply because there is not enough supply to satisfy demand. Market Theory 101. However, as was demonstrated, that does NOT mean that book B is the more important book. Logic. It's a close call. I see your logic, but give this a shot. Even though there are 50X more graded copies of the 181, there are 5 copies of Cerebus that are worth more than every single copy of 181, except the single 9.9, which is an anomaly. There was a great point made by Chuck earlier. You have $1000 to spend on either book and they both appear NM what comic do you go with? If money means anything to the buyer, it's a simple question to answer. However, there are 8.5 Cerebus 1's on comiclink that aren't bid up anywhere near their 181 counterparts. This cannot be ignored either. There are merits to both sides, but if I had to pick a winner I know it's Cerebus #1 by a nose. Also important to remember and someone did bring it up earlier that Cerebus was ranked lower than 181 last year, and the new rankings were effective when the book was published a few months back before the 181's in 9.2 broke $3k. It's been a while since a highest or second highest Cerebus #1 has come to market, and this may cause a bidding war if one were brought to auction. If one of the 3 SS 9.4's were bumped, I would love to see the hammer price of a 9.6, or better yet a 9.8. You are talking about price not importance. In terms of price the Cerebus might well be the highest priced. In fact it would be very strange if it wasn't because it is a meaningful book and print run was so much lower than 181. So if you want to declare a 'winner' in terms of price... it is probably the Cerebus, because of reasons similar to the ones outlined in the example above. I was talking in terms of importance. E.g. which book contains the most important first appearance etc. And there the IH181 clearly wins. If this about first appearances then Hulk # 180 would be the clear winner.

I think Jdog needs to work out why the highest graded copy of Hulk # 181 reached those heights? Perhaps it was shilled?

This is what I hear + 1

That's the white elephant in the room that has been ignored. Folks like RMA would rather point out the merits of another poster's auto correct ("Cerberus" vs. "Cerebus", my phone doesn't care either, my man) or how they choose to abbreviate "Overstreet", than the fact that about the only thing Overstreet is good for at this point is maintaining the status quo for old school collectors and giving local dealers something to low ball you with when you try to sell your books. It's great that some dealers can anecdotally recount how well their copies of Cerebus sell when they have them, there will always be a buyer for a book at some price. But again, if the book had an availability that was half (or even a quarter?) of Hulk 181, It would likely not be of any interest to even the niche collectors who like to feel like they have something "rare" in their collections. Essentially the true "value" of the book is skewed mightily by the low print and nothing else. The value of hulk 181 is intrinsic and real. If Hulk 181 had the same print run as Cerebus it would probably be a 250k book in a 9.4. If Cerebus had the same print run as Hulk 181 it would probably be a 20 dollar book. I believe that is the point others have been trying to make when expressing bewilderment about Overstreet's list. And no, hulk 181 hasn't "slowed". It's actually having its best year from a price appreciation standpoint in a long time. (thumbs u -J. If the book was worthless it would not have any demand. I see tons of low print 80's indies in the back issue boxes. The low print run does not make them any more desirable or important.

Everyone should stop complaining about Overstreet and make their own price guide. Then we can complain about the new PGX of price guides updates. I think its good to have some temperament in the industry. And the only dealers and LCS that get my back issue money use the Overstreet price guide.

I am not sure where you buy most of your comics from. But I would hate to pay Ebay prices from every dealer or LCS I shop at. I would say it's relevant to a collectors wallet.

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Bingo. Only diff is that the emphasis is on female readers as opposed to collectors.. Thats the reason why the TPB hold a #1 spot. It is an EASY book to market to everyone based on commercial value and appeal... Wanna buy your GF a cool gift? Get her a Rat Queens Tee Wanna buy your niece a cool read.. There you go.. Rat Queens TPB Once they get it.. Theyre hooked.. Cant do that with any other book that I know of today. I already said it before.. This doesnt even needs a TV show, its just INEVITABLE.. It only needs a female celebrity tweet (selena gomez, Miley, Rihanna..).. A talk show recomendation (The View, Ellen Show, etc..) and BOOM This one screams cross over all around it. 20,000 print run of #1 is NOTHING if this gets to TMNT levels, which in my belief, it would. Before you posted this, did you take some ecstasy and start listening to some zesty, zesty Trance? Heh...

As long as it does better than Todd the Ugliest Kid, which actually dropped in price after the show launched (which I thought would happen) then all will be well. The is a show already? No, my mistake. I thought it was out since it has been over a year since announced. Too late Todd has crashed since your original post Ken is going to be upset when finds out about them making a show without him. That sounds like it could be a great story arc.

Did he sign your copies?

Sold for $500.

No Drax or Gamora. But Mantis, Captain Universe and Bug are part of the team in Annihilation Conquest: Starlord. I wonder who will make the next movie? My moneys on Mantis.

Annihilation: Starlord http://www.mycomicshop.com/search?ItemID=26054921

Or it could be they just have not received them yet?

I have always believed that MCS has a lot of buyers that wont use ebay or anyone else.

Yup. Just wish they would have gotten his name right on the label.

My latest Doctor.... Thanks Akoni!!

Welcome to the family!!! Looks like they will be Green Label for me.