Red Hook

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I'm just quoting the guy, .....just quoting him.

"If you love me, you'll come now!" Yeah, that approach always works!

Welcome to the Green River Room, Arex! Not only do I think this is a Greenie, I think it was a book Shin once owned and sold raw to the same buyer that slabbed the unlabeled copy of Sgt. Fury 41 on my site. They both were slabbed as part of the same submission group. That's how I figured things went, anyway......Shin? Whaddya' think? Arex picking up the date on this book in the auction (for all four 9.4s he posted here)....was pretty eagle-eyed! Congrats! Brad

Two New Green Rivers, courtesy of Stuart! Thanks!

You know....I think the last 25 times someone mentioned the idea of a conspiracy theory on these boards, it was you! Please find a way of describing an argument you don't agree with as something other than a "conspiracy". Red

And a smart buyer is one who attempts to close that information gap as much as possible.

My impression was that he was talking more about the individual sellers on CL, and not dealers or the prices they list on their own sites.... I also still adhere to the position that any seller has the right to ask any price he wants. End of story.

That's a fair position to take Bob. As I said, GPA is a good tool (probably more useful to us buyers than a dealer), but I would never expect an experienced dealer to march in stride with the data on GPA. I personally find it a big help just getting info pretty easily. If I do my homework, I would check other sources too.

We had one going on the shocked robins......

Man, is that guys left arm badly drawn!

I hear William H. Macy will be playing the role of Scared Man in the Corner in the upcoming film version of Action Comics #1......

Huh....well, that's interesting.

Never saw the allure in it. What are you talking about? That's the 1st app. of Green Car. If that wasn't enough, it is also the first app. of Scared Man In Corner. S Scared Man in the Corner should be listed as a prototype for Shocked Robin in Corner.

I suppose I'm a horribly wicked person for wanting to see it, regardless of the eBay ramifications. Sorry, but we're simply not worthy.

So? 97 of us would report it to Ebay as fraudulent within about 20 minutes.

But then you should certainly understand buyers willingness to examine whatever data does exist, imperfect or not, in an attempt to get a better handle on pricing. Right? BTW.... I would never suggest that dealers set their prices to GPA. Again, I don't think anyone has. There are myriad variables involved. But any buyer attempting to get a better handle on a fair price would use GPA, as well as various other sources. Less information favors the seller. More information (incomplete and flawed as it may be) favors the buyer.

BTW.....I don't see anyone here preaching GPA numbers as gospel.

GPA shows prices realized for sales that they have recorded. Currently, no ComicLink sales are reported to GPA and GPA also lacks retail sales from many other sources. Therefore, their numbers are incomplete, and collectors preaching them as gospel is inaccurate and misleading. One high profile example of is the sale of Hulk #1 CGC 9.0 with white pages which sold in a recent Mastro auction for $33,378 and was reported to GPA. In March 2005, a Hulk #1 in 9.0 with off-white to white pages (I think it is the same book before the page quality upgrade) was sold by a consignor on ComicLink for $50,000. So, what is it worth? Taking the GPA number only, a collector would conclude that it is only worth $33K. Taking the ComicLink number only, a collector would conclude that it is worth $50K. Knowing what it sold for in both places, a reasonable conclusion is that what it is worth depends on who is looking for the book at the time, the client base of the selling venue, the scarcity of the book, and what the buyer (and underbidder) is willing to spend to obtain it. If you are a seller, what the book is worth will also have to take into account, keeping in mind the above factors as well, the total commissions (buyer + seller) of the selling venue. What the seller nets = what the buyer ultimately pays for the item minus the sum of the buyer and seller commissions retained by the selling venue. There are countless examples of items selling on ComicLink for higher than the average GPA numbers (the vast majority of which are comprised of eBay and Heritage sales) or even higher than the book just recently sold for in another venue. Of course, there are also examples where a seller is willing to accept less than GPA numbers for a quick sale (or doesn't know that a book can sell for more than their list price) and the astute buyer can obtain a relative "bargain." Alternatively, an uninformed or greedy seller on ComicLink or anywhere else may overprice a book that is not scarce and it is therefore a pitfall for any buyer that is going to resell in the short-term. Josh Nathanson www.comiclink.com What's behind your decision not to supply sales data to GPA?

I find GPA a very useful tool. To rely on just one source though, isn't wise. I think the value of GPAnalysis will continue to grow as the sampling increases. It's only a guide anyway. And since Overstreet doesn't publish upper highgrade numbers, it's the only easy source for any price indicators of those books. If there's a book I really want, then I'll leave the GPA numbers out of the equation. We're all addicts on this bus.

I've never seen anyone addressed with such formality as in this thread. I guess if you own the Church Action 1 people call you "Mr." The logic of which continues to escape me.

Mark, baby. It's a chat board. All I've seen proven here is that the so-called "big" collectors can be as petty, beyotchy, spiteful and childish as anyone else.

That was uncalled for.

You mean "person", right?

Beg pardon?