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6 minutes ago, The Shoveler said:

If it's a South American version, it must be from French Guiana.

Assuming French is the original language for the art --and now you mention it, the text does seem to be lettered directly on the board.

Has anybody else left obnoxious (because they were true) comments on non-premium member's pages knowing they will have to delete the whole listing to get rid of the comment, or am I the only one?

4 hours ago, glendgold said:

Mais non!

https://www.invaluable.co.uk/auction-lot/-1-c-5154B0EA5D

Must be a weird mistranslation somewhere, right? 

Huh. Is that even a US Spidey page? Kinda looks like a South American version or something.

On 10/27/2017 at 7:17 PM, Bill C said:

I understand you obviously want to put a good spin on your company but that line was honestly over the top.

There is nothing user friendly at all about the CC search functions. It is literally the worst website I personally know of. That's not me trolling or exaggerating.

I tell you this as I would probably be a customer if there was a decent website. 

Raw Sewage, now even more user friendly!

On 9/21/2017 at 10:15 AM, rocket1312 said:

Thanks for clearing that up.  You'd think that the descriptions would be a little more explicit as to what exactly these things are and what their purpose is.

For the TLDR crowd, these are imaginary covers from the Funky Winkerbean universe drawn by famous artists that are being sold to support Tom Batiuk's (Funky Winkerbean creator) cancer charity.

Thanks for that!

Anybody have experience pro or con with Collect Insure, aka Collectibles Insurance Services?

3 hours ago, Pete Marino said:

If comic art is going to continue to grow, I think it'll be the panel pages, the storytelling that will be the interesting part.

There are artists that can draw anything.  our hobby is not unique to that, IMO it's the storytelling, the panel pages, how they work together and combine pictures with words to tell a story.  Not saying splashes and covers won't have a premium, I just think that multiple is too high right now.

Yeah, this is what I think. It's not that comic art should be valued by the standards of painting, but that it should be valued according to the artistic achievement embodied. This marketplace which measures everything according to it's distance from an ideal hero pin-up is theoretically immature. The comics medium is so much greater than that.

All in all, I think the contemporary art world has an appropriate relationship to the geniuses of popular art, e.g. Kirby, Hitchcock, Kubrick, etc. Sometimes they do museum shows on such artists, but it's understood that these works were not made for the museum/gallery, nor to hang on collectors walls. A Kirby Demon page is not even a complete artwork, it's just a fraction of a larger story which became complete when it was printed in color. So it's appropriate that the fine art world has to do a bit of translation in the presentation.

16 hours ago, zhamlau said:

 

All respect to Comix4Fun, but this is my new favorite gif now.

Great GIF! Let me ask you this: what would you pay for a rare John Romita color illustration of that GIF?

11 hours ago, PhilipB2k17 said:

Jack Kirby has at least 10X the cultural and historical significance - and influence - of any contemporary artist, alive or dead. The ONLY reason he's not held in higher regard by the FA community is intellectual snobbery. Plain and simple.

I have the impression Kirby is held in extremely high regard by the fine art community. A couple years back I loaned some pieces to an excellent show of Kirby, Peter Voulkos, and Leon Golub. 

23 hours ago, Readcomix said:

Sorry; Overstreet Price Guide

Oh, of course. Thanks! 

3 hours ago, kav said:

Yep that's a great example of what 'art' is.  

Probably more an example of art criticism. As the article says:  "And this being 4chan, the probability that it’s a hoax is overwhelming — although the winning bidder has a long history on the site and hasn’t retracted any other bids in the past six months. That said, eBay does allow sellers and buyers to agree to cancel bids — so if Xhacker02 and the winning bidder are in cahoots, money will never change hands. And we will never know!" 

2 hours ago, Readcomix said:

Thx! I've certainly puzzled on it based on many discussions and the OSPG claims, but it seems to me the Boys Ranch work A) looks consistent through all 6 issues and B) looks a whole lot less like either Mort Meskin or Jerry Robinson, who are the names often mentioned as doing finishes on the series. I think we had this discussion in another thread; I need to take the damn thing off the wall and bring it along next time I visit Joe Sinnott; I've collected plenty of knowledgeable opinions (yours included) but getting his can't hurt.

Regardless, I posted it here to celebrate Kirby's 100th, and Boys' Ranch is a cool Kirby creation; cheers to the King and thank you for all you left us!

What is OSPG?

Something else that made an impression on me from the show were several pages of Grant Morrison scripts for All-Star Superman (ASSMAN to the cognescenti). The demands that Morrison makes on the artist are ridiculous. One page called for characters on a balcony overlooking a futuristic city... then follows a whole page description of the architectural layout of the city, the style of architecture, rivers, ring roads etc, etc. Another -script page for Batman & Robin includes an extended discourse on the comparative fighting styles of the original Robin, Spoon Greyson, and the new Robin, Damian Something-or-other. Damned if Quitely doesn't nail every detail and tonal nuance --it's really a Scorcese-DeNiro level perfect collaboration.

23 hours ago, irchooker said:

In 2005 I spoke with Quitely (or Vince, as the cool kids were calling him back then) and he told me he had three children and each were receiving a complete issue of WE3, as it was the work he was most proud of.  So I don't imagine WE3 will come to market.  He certainly threw himself into that work.

Aha, I suspected something like that. Thanks for the intel! 

Speaking of Toppfer, his Mr. Jabot may only have second place in the first comic contest, but this must surely be the oldest Original Comic Art extant, from 1835 or maybe a little earlier. What's weird is that it's not in Jim Halperin's collection.

To my astonishment, Glasgow credibly claims to have invented the comic book. The Glasgow Looking Glass was published regularly and featured comic stories in color, and with "To Be Continued" captions even, from 1825: ten years ahead of Toppfer. They claim there were also word balloons. If so, it's a real weakness of the show that they didn't exhibit any examples.

They used Chip Kidd's collection as a one stop shop to represent some other comic artists:

Something I never knew about Quitely: the influence of Dudley Watkins. Here's a Broons strip from '67 & an Oor Wullie from '51. These originals were lent by the publisher, DC Thomson & Co.

For the legendary-in-my-mind 4 page security cam sequence in WE3, Quitely made a thumbnail card set to experiment with the order. He kept them in a raisin box. At one point they were thrown out, but were recovered. Here are all the thumbnails and one finished page.

Quitely's working method starts with many thumbnails right on the -script pages.

There was, of course, a near infinite selection of superb Quitely originals, many provided by the artist, including from the amazing WE3, pages from which I've never seen for sale. 

So I have one day in Glasgow while my wife transacts some business and look what I stumble onto: a whole show dedicated to the gentleman I regard as the best contemporary superhero artist 

Hard to see why this wouldn't qualify as art... heck, it's even figurative, and on a classical medieval/renaissance theme. 

Something I MIGHT be noticing about Hitch, is that the lesser figures he doesn't photo reference have a very different, more cartoony feel, & so there is a lack of unity in the artwork. Sorry I don't have time to find examples today:(