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On 7/10/2022 at 7:47 PM, fastballspecial said:

Does anyone have a Bar Coded Sandman they have a picture of?
All scan mine tomorrow and show you. I am just curious if anyone else has one.
Mine is Sandman 7.

 

So where's yours?

On 7/11/2022 at 11:46 AM, Lazyboy said:

Regardless of where it ended up or the path it took to get there, it's still just a Direct edition with a sticker.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar . . . but a sticker is a sticker is a sticker.

On 7/24/2022 at 8:17 PM, lostboys said:

So...can CGC catch the reloaded 238s or no? 

Because if they can't I'll prob just buy a higher grade without the tatz.

You can get a 9.4 - 9.6 without tatz or a 9.0 - 9.2 with tatz for almost the same price.

And no I don't have the drive, time or energy to try and scam the system.

I'm getting too 

 

 

I would say no, only because if you're buying a book that has already been graded by them, it's in their database already. But raw books (or other graders' books are another matter.) And they have just flagged your account to be on the lookout . . . 

On 7/24/2022 at 7:37 PM, Lazyboy said:

It seems pretty unlikely that you had that many copies and not one of the inserts was attached by a staple. Can you give me some lottery numbers?

Forgive me, I may have been exaggerating  However, it (is/was/may have been) very easy to exchange the tatooz envelope between the two without any obvious detection, and I imagine this kind of thing was done rather routinely. (it's not like it was microtrimming fergawdsake.)

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Can you imagine getting a Green Label with the notation "plastic bag removed" 

On 7/24/2022 at 5:40 PM, Randall Dowling said:

On 7/24/2022 at 5:09 PM, divad said:

Personally, I think CGC should do away with any "missing" stigma for items/extras that were meant by the publisher to be removed unless it destroys the integrity of the comic book, e,g. cut-out Marvel Value Stamps or "in-page" coupons. IMHO, the other items are superfluous to value.

Like plastic bags that comics came in.  

Precisely!

On 7/24/2022 at 6:59 PM, Lazyboy said:

Sure they are. Or at least were meant to be, but the realities of mass production means not all were. The same is true of many other inserts over the years.

I guess the 5 or 6 copies of each I had were "outliers" (just like my high sales prices)

Personally, I think CGC should do away with any "missing" stigma for items/extras that were meant by the publisher to be removed unless it destroys the integrity of the comic book, e,g. cut-out Marvel Value Stamps or "in-page" coupons. IMHO, the other items are superfluous to value.

On 7/24/2022 at 2:28 PM, Randall Dowling said:

To clarify, the envelope containing the tattoos usually remains.  The majority of cases I've seen still have the envelope but with no tattoos inside.

That's correct, as Lazyboy points out every production variable you can think may happen, did.

On 7/23/2022 at 11:10 AM, THE_BEYONDER said:

This not a great example. The tatooz insert in the ASM 238 and the FF252 are (jn my copies were) not bound in by the staple.

On 7/23/2022 at 8:43 AM, lostboys said:

It can't be that simple...can it?

I'd think, by now, flippers would have run this scam into the ground.

Yes.

They have.

On 7/21/2022 at 4:28 PM, Lazyboy said:

The Tattooz can be removed without much damage to the insert, the insert could just be completely removed, or anything between those extremes could happen.

This is the reality depending on the book and the person doing the work.

On 7/21/2022 at 10:25 AM, lostboys said:

When the tats are removed, is there a stub left behind?

No.

On 7/20/2022 at 12:54 PM, lou_fine said:

They most certainly DID as I believe they raised the price for this year's edition of the Overstreet Guide by 20% or thereabouts.    

Do you guys get any kickbacks on that? 

• This one had a bid all week and then the guy asked to cancel it . . . 
• 

  VENOM LETHAL PROTECTOR #4 May 1993 NM/MT 9.8 W MARVEL SPIDER-MAN App 1st FS B/O

  • $46.00
  • 1 bid
  • +$8.75 shipping
  • Jun-29 14:38
  • Seller: urbangrime(171) 100%

These were nice sales:

• MARVEL SUPER SPECIAL #4 THE BEATLES STORY! 1978 VF/NM 9.0 W FAB FOUR! PHOTOS MAG

  • $140.00
  • 1 bid
  • +$8.75 shipping
  • Jul-08 22:30
  • Seller: truegrime(496) 88.9%
• 

  Adventure Into FEAR #18 MAN-THING Nov 1973 MARVEL Comics NM+ 9.6 OW/W ROMITA B/O

  • $48.00
  • 1 bid
  • +$8.75 shipping
  • Jul-08 13:22
  • Seller: truegrime(496) 88.9%
• 

• AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #202 MARVEL Mar 1980 VF+ 8.5 OWW PUNISHER App Direct Ed. B/O

• $22.00
• 1 bid
• +$8.75 shipping
• Jul-03 00:11
• Seller: divadrabnud(2,006) 100%

I sold all of my copies just after this thread came out. 

Where are the pics? This thread ain't worth a dog's _____ without pics.

On 7/17/2022 at 11:30 PM, paqart said:

Maybe you're getting the names mixed up.

 

Yeah, that's the ticket . . .

Yep, I remember when I first saw that I said, "What did they do with Cap?"

On 7/15/2022 at 9:14 AM, paqart said:

These are close-ups of the damage on the Heir to the Empire cover. Looks to me like one of 2 things: 1) Paper torn up during sticker removal by razor blade, or 2) Glue left behind after sticker removal by razor blade. I prefer the latter because then there would be hope of revealing color behind the glue but it looks more like color removed to me. Hard to tell. Opinions?

I'd have to see the electron micrographs . . . 

On 7/16/2022 at 9:50 PM, paqart said:

Now all of a sudden I can comment again. I wonder why I couldn't earlier today? I saw something from CGCMike this morning but it looked like he was reacting to a months-old post he'd already seen. Maybe he was considering banning me (again, for the same content) and then changed his mind?

As for talking about comics, that's generally what I do. I got into trouble when I commented on a thread about censoring Spiegelman's Maus. I pointed out that Maus is far from the only comic that has had to deal with censorship and that current editorial trends amount to pre-censorship. I doubt I said it exactly like that but that was my point. While I was at it, I put in a plug for a comic I'd just finished, an anthology, that included work by Michael Golden, Graham Nolan, Chuck Dixon, Mike Baron, Dave Williams, Larry Stroman, and others. So far, I'm talking about comics. Then someone said some nasty and untrue things about Dixon, who I know personally, so I corrected him. After that, a number of people started sending abuse in my direction and I did my best to deflect it. At that point, the "comics" portion of the conversation had effectively been diverted by the people who wanted to say untrue pejorative things about Dixon. The next thing I knew, I had warning points.

I decided to delete my posts on the basis that if the boardies couldn't handle the information, I shouldn't abuse their delicate sensibilities by inflicting it on them. However, I couldn't delete them. So, I did the next best thing, I erased the content and replaced it with the text "Randomly deleted content". That was because I had to have at least 10 characters to change the post and save. Anyway, that got me a lot more warning points and that was what CGCMike was reacting to today, though this all happened some time ago.

It is also why I stopped interacting on CGC at the same frequency as I had previously. Frankly, the entire episode was undignified and unpleasant. I was so disappointed that I wrote an article about censorship and suppression in social media for an online publication I sometimes write for. I did mention CGC as a tiny example of a larger problem seen more widely on better-known sites. Apparently, some of the people on the site were fantasizing about what I might have said about CGC. It's behind a paywall, so they had no idea what I'd written. Most of the article is about social media, not CGC. This is the section most relevant to CGC:

From there I make the point that broad censorship and suppression of certain ideas can be very harmful if the suppressed information is critical to understanding dangers to society, or details of otherwise unknown criminal activity. It makes sense that companies would worry about litigation or reputation in such fraught circumstances but they shouldn't put themselves in the position of assisting bad guys cover up crimes, which is what appears to be happening on a broad scale in America right now. 

The idea that politics can't be discussed is nice but if a politically-themed thread about comics (Maus) or another about something unrelated (Elon Musk) is allowed for dozens of pages, it is inconsistent to ban people replying to posts in the thread but not ban whoever started the thread and all the other people posting in it.

From my point of view, I am far more interested in newsstand comics, Carl Barks, and Frazetta's Famous Funnies covers than these other issues but I don't like seeing falsehoods about someone I know go unanswered. Speaking of which, those remarks, which I consider defamatory, apparently don't violate CGC's moderation policy. The fact that the comments concern a prominent comic book creator who has written more comics than any person in the history of comics should give us pause. If someone like that can't be discussed on a comic book forum, it makes one wonder what can be discussed.

Seems like you're doing it again . . . 

On 7/16/2022 at 2:30 PM, ADAMANTIUM said:

On 7/16/2022 at 1:29 PM, mrwoogieman said:

Picked through a box of Star Wars comics at a garage sale and grabbed whatever newsies were there. 
 

 

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I'm not familiar enough with the star wars series to pick out "keys" from the series

But picking out the Newsstands sounds like an easier way to determine

 

I would have just bought them all. 

Pretty soon we'll be paying eBay to give them away for us!