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All New 9 Apparent  FN-/FN great looking book but the interior has been glued to the cover at the spine, you can't open it all the way as the glue goes in about 3/8", last pic shows that I hope, great cover, shame on the glue. $350

Rules:

PMs are welcome but in the thread win

Postage on comics is $6.00 for raw, $15.00 for Slabs in the US. Outside the US you pay exact postage whatever that is.

Paypal/Check/MO If you can't pay within 3 days then please don't buy unless we have worked it out beforehand and I've done that several times; just communicate please.

Assume the slabbed books have been pressed

No returns on slabbed books unless I screwed up somehow.

If you are a HOSer or on probation or on ignore I won't sell to you.

Modern FT

11/18 = received

12/01 = verified

 

My MFT were received on 11/8 STILL sitting on Received.

I called and was told they are just today verifying books received on 11/8. Really?

I want my money back for the fast track.

UPDATE: I received a message that they are on it. Thank you customer service.

Bought a couple of books from Mike and they really arrived quicker than I thought. Super packing as well. Thanks Again!!

I have had blue label books that note "small amount of glue on cover". I had a CGC blue label 4.0 Venus 10 as an example that noted that.

I've seen several blue labels that say small amount of glue on cover but never one that says "restoration includes". ?

Finally picked up a copy of one of only a handful of precodes I've never owned before.

Check out the label. Screwup by CGC?

Its been a long hunt but I finally upgraded.

As I said before, if the purpose of nominating someone for the PL is to force a transaction to take place then I believe priorities are misplaced.

When I sell someone a book, I will take a return within a reasonable amount of time if the book is in the same condition for any reason. I've done it that way for 30 years; its just a business practice I believe in.

What is to stop Xela from going ahead and buying the books to stay off the list and then returning the books. And don't suggest he has to keep them no matter what; that's not right either.

I choose not to get into that possibility and I choose not to do business with someone who has been rude, dismissive, and disrespectful to me. Maybe in time people grow up and change their ways; but not today.

Either he deserves to be on the list or not for his actions, but don't put this back on me because I now won't sell to him. I just fail to believe that is what the spirit of the PL is all about. If it is then this whole this has been a waste of time and energy.

And maybe take his address off there. (thumbs u

Done and done, thanks for pointing that out.

Fair enough.

 

Looks like there was never any wavering on the part of the Xela and he clearly agreed to the terms and said he'd take them.

 

Very stupid on his part to not reply that he had just spent $25 on shipping and inquire about that if he had questions. Looks like you did your part.

 

So he is added to the Probation List...then what? To get off does he just go through with the deal with you?

I'm open to whatever you guys decide. I won't complete the deal with him even if that makes all of this moot. I just won't deal with people like that so I'm not sure what is fair?

And I apologize for going off on you, I'm a little frustrated and perhaps took it out on you. I thought about send you a PM but I did it in public so I apologize in public.

Then throw him on the list. I don't care either way.

 

It just seemed like a misunderstanding and the parties hadn't actually agreed on the cost.

 

All I know for sure right now is that as soon as the seller gave the EXACT shipping cost the buyer said "pass." What other reason would there be other than he didn't think shipping would be that much based on his past dealings?

 

And did the seller say shipping WILL be or that shipping COULD be?

 

I'm off to dinner. Clam chowder, fried clams and maybe ice cream later.

 

If one or both or neither are on the Probation List when I get back

 

It makes NO difference whether I said WILL be or COULD be; an after that is binding not conditionary. If you can't see that then posting PMs makes no difference. All it does is make me question what you think is binding and wonder whether I should do business with you in the future.

 

Having said that, if someone can explain how to post all of the PMs other that a lot of cut and paste, I'll do that when I return in a couple of hours.

Just because I'm asking that you post PMs, suddenly you don't want to do business with me?

You misread it. Has nothing to do with you asking for PMs. Has to do with you not being able to see any diff. whether I said WILL be or COULD be; an after that is binding not conditionary.

I haven't post PMs yet because I wasn't sure how and because someone suggested at the very 1st to 'lay out my case and post PMs later".

Here they are:

I believe I have a couple of copies. Can get you scans tomorrow if you are still interested.

 

Boyd

Yes please, that would be great.

 

I forgot to mention shipping will be to the UK if thats okay?

 

Thanks Boyd

 

Sam

Hi Sam

 

I don't mind shipping to the UK as long as you take care of the cost, whichever way you want it sent.

 

I have 2 copies, one really low grade complete copy, raw, centerfold was loose at one time and taped back in. I want $125 for it.

 

The other is a CGC 5.0 OW-W Pages. I want $350 for it. I know the GPA from last April was $232 but the last 5.5 last march was $370 so I don't really think the data is helpful.

 

LMK

 

Boyd

 

 

Thanks Boyd, what would you best price be on the both of them?

 

Thanks

 

Sam

Also would you happen to have a Crime Suspenstories #20 for sale by any chance?

 

Thanks

Sam

 

If you want both I'll do $450 and pay up to $20 on the postage. Not sure what shipping would be to the UK as I only ship there every 3 months or so.

 

Unfortunately no CSS 20 right now.

 

LMK

 

Boyd

Hi Boyd,

 

Would you be able to do $450 shipped?

 

Thanks

 

Sam

Hey Sam

 

I can't do that to the UK. It may be $50-$60 for a slab. I won't cut corners and send it uninsured etc.

Hope you understand.

 

Boyd

Okay Boyd, I'll take em, I'll pay on Monday if that's okay?

 

Thanks

 

Sam

That's fine Sam. Let me package them up and get a postage price to you Monday then you can pay.

Send me an address.

 

Thanks

 

Boyd

Great thanks Boyd.

 

My address is

 

 

 

Thanks

 

Sam

Sam

 

I've packaged the books and used the online calculator to estimate the shipping. It comes to $63 for Priority Express International with insurance for $400. If it is different when I get to the post office I'll refund the difference.

 

With me paying $20 of the postage the total will be $493

 

Let me know if that is what you want to do.

 

Paypal is

 

Boyd

Hi Boyd,

 

I'm not sure how it comes to $63? I Bought 3 raw and 1 slab off of another boardie and it came to $25?

 

Thanks

Box is 19x14x4

Weight is 2 lbs 11 oz

 

Go to the USPS.com

Plug in the numbers for priority express international from Texas

Insured for $400

 

That's what I got unless I did it wrong, I'll check again when I get home this afternoon.

If you see something different let me know.

Checked the prices again. Here is what I got:

 

Priority Express International Insured for $400 3-5 market days: $63

 

Priority Mail International w/certificate of mailing, insured only to $70 6-10 days: approx. $53

 

1st Class package w/certificate of mailing, will not insure, must be less than $400, cannot give an estimate of delivery time as it depends on location: $31

 

Although I've never had a package go missing or get damaged I won't assume any responsibility on the 2nd and 3rd option.

 

Up to you. LMK

 

Boyd

Ill pass, thanks though Boyd!

You said you would take them. You said you would take them even when I said postage would be $50-$60.

 

You can go to usps.com and check for yourself; I'm not making up postage prices.

 

Is this the way you normally do business?

So no response?

 

Do you always back out of deals after you have committed?

 

I wouldn't recommend starting any more WTB threads if you are going to go back on your word. These kind of things get you put on the probation list.

Xela has removed themself from this topic.

And when I sent the obligatory PM:

FYI

 

I have posted in the Probation Discussion thread about you agreeing to buy my books and then backing out of the deal.

 

You've hurt my feelings :\

Xela has removed themself from this topic.

Then throw him on the list. I don't care either way.

 

It just seemed like a misunderstanding and the parties hadn't actually agreed on the cost.

 

All I know for sure right now is that as soon as the seller gave the EXACT shipping cost the buyer said "pass." What other reason would there be other than he didn't think shipping would be that much based on his past dealings?

 

And did the seller say shipping WILL be or that shipping COULD be?

 

I'm off to dinner. Clam chowder, fried clams and maybe ice cream later.

 

If one or both or neither are on the Probation List when I get back

It makes NO difference whether I said WILL be or COULD be; an after that is binding not conditionary. If you can't see that then posting PMs makes no difference. All it does is make me question what you think is binding and wonder whether I should do business with you in the future.

Having said that, if someone can explain how to post all of the PMs other that a lot of cut and paste, I'll do that when I return in a couple of hours.

There is nothing sinister or malicious going on here. Just a clear miscommunication based on unclear responses by both parties. Neither party was clear in this instance.

 

This is the foundation of my earlier comments about pursuit of the PL being a "hard- line" to take in this situation.

 

I was never arguing that buyers should be held to lower standards, in general. I believe buyers should go above and beyond to honor their commitments, just as sellers should. I'm just in the camp that thinks there was some misunderstanding here, which I tend to give benefit of the doubt on...

 

I thought your earlier point was, at least partly, that sellers ought to think through whether they really want to use the PL mechanism to force a sale on a recalitrant buyer.

 

I think the way the PL works, sellers should only pursue that course if they are certain they still want to sell the book to the buyer should the buyer change his mind and agree to complete the transaction.

Well, if that is the criteria then I guess this has been a waste of time. I'm pretty sure he won't be changing his mind and I certainly won't sell him anything at any price if he did. If nomination for the PL only exists to force transactions to be consummated then I misread its purpose. Sorry for wasting anyone's time.

Isn't that the sort of intention behind the Probation List. As Sharon describes it - a place for naughty buyers/sellers who need a time out.

 

I think more and more it is being used as a tool to force a deal when there really wasn't one.

 

I don't think there were clearly defined terms laid out here. Communication was lacking on both the part of the seller and the buyer. Seller never mentioned insurance until later, and when it was first mentioned that the buyer would be responsible for the cost, he was clear in his response - "pass."

 

It's not like the seller clearly said shipping WILL be $40 - $60 and you are responsible for insurance.

 

I don't think the PL is a place for would-be transactions that failed based on a lack of clarity regarding terms of a would-be deal. I think the PL is for clearly defined terms that were acceptd and a party breaks those terms and cancels a deal without an explanation.

 

Additionally, not every nomination IS a valid nomination. That is why this thread is called the Probation Discussion thread. To give the accused a chance to present his side. Xela came forward and said he didn't understand the terms of the shipping and what he'd have to pay and hat was included. There clearly wasn't a deal.

 

Is he lying? Is there any indication that he KNEW what the actual shipping costs were and what was included? No. bcc has not provided any of that evidence (such as actual PMs or statements made) to support his nomination.

Well, we are not getting anywhere here. You are welcome to your opinion. There was clearly a deal and there was NO misunderstanding of costs when he said he would take it. There was no misunderstanding of any kind. Xela changed his mind and handled it very poorly and his actions since have only solidified my opinion of him.

FYI; The insurance cost for the package was actually less than $3 of the cost, Priority Express International is automatically insured up to $200, the remainder of the insurance was less than $3 if I remember correctly, possibly $4, I'm not wasting anymore time on this to go back and check.

As for your speculations and recreations on what might have been said in the actual PMs, I've already laid it out pretty succinctly and clearly. If you just gotta have it word for word for your own edification I'll be glad to send you every PM if I can figure out how to do that but it is just as I first laid it out.

I appreciate everyone's time and opinions. At this point I guess everyone can make up their own mind

Hi everyone,

 

Firstly I don't think I was obstructing a sales thread of bcc.

 

I said I'd pass on the books because I feel the shipping was extortionate. I've had multiple books (slabbed and raw) sent from the USA and it was only $20. So I don't feel giving him an extra $40 on shipping + giving him way over GPA on the slabbed book is fair..

 

I think bcc is trying to get me on the probation list for the sake of it.

 

Cheers

I never said you were obstructing anything, it was your WTB thread and you agreed to purchase the books.

So you are accusing me of extortion? Even after I told you what costs would probably be and you still said OK I'll take it. You were not GIVING me anything on shipping, I wasn't making a nickel on shipping. I gave you an estimated price that you agreed to, I then gave you package dimensions and weight to let you double check yourself. Then I gave you options. Your option was to back out of a deal in a rather rude manner.

"For the sake of it"? In all the years I've been on the boards I've never nominated anyone for the PL. I don't even know you, but I do now.

Only issue is, insurance is seller's responsibility, not buyer's, unless specifically agreed

 

 

 

I am not usually involved in probation discussions and I do not have anything involved but I am not so sure this is probation list worthy.

 

First the buyer politely backed out of the deal. Clearly resigned,but not reneged. They did not like the conditions of the sale.

 

Second the deal was struck but the 2 parties could not agree to shipping terms.

 

Finally the above quote does make a valid point as the buyer appears to have made more of an attempt to compromise than the seller.

 

 

Perhaps a strike or two is in order for the buyer, but in all fairness I would limit it there.

 

FYI The buyer did not politely back out of the deal, he said "I'll pass" no other explaination and refused to communicate anymore

We did agree to shipping terms. I said the shipping would prob be $50-$60 and he said I'll take it. in that order.

Finally, he made ZERO attempt to compromise, I have no idea where you are getting that from.

I'm not trying to force Xela to make a deal. At this point I will not ever deal with him again, especially after his reply this morning to my informing him of the discussion here as I'm supposed to do. He replied: "lol

You've hurt my feelings :\ " then removed himself from the topic.

I would have had no problem just forgetting the whole thing and just blocking him from dealing with me if he had replied something like this: 'I'm sorry but I've decided the books and postage are more than I want to pay at this time, sorry for any inconvienance. I know I said I'd take them but after some thought I'd like to pass if that is OK with you', but I got nothing except "I'll pass"

I accept 100% returns so it would have been really no different than that, still would not have had a deal.

My contention is that he has offered no explaination, no apology, and has in fact been rude and cavalier in his attitude about the whole thing proven by his response this morning and his removal once again from the topic.

This just demonstrates he did not have buyers remorse but is a person who is not to be trusted and very disrespectful of the time I spent scanning, PMing, looking up postage prices, and packing the books. I realize that is part of doing business but not after agreeing to buy the books. It was his WTB ad and he is the one to agree to purchase.

You guys do what you want; I've blocked him from deals with me. I'm just trying to warn other people of the kind of person his actions have demonstrated he really is; maybe some time spent unable to do any transactions will help him grow up and realize that the way you treat people sometimes has consequences.

Having never done this before, is this the thread where I post comments about a board person who agreed to purchase two books, agreed to the price, then said later I'll pass, read all my PMs after, then removed himself from the discussion?

I have all the PMs etc but not sure what to post or where or how to do hyperlinks?

 

Thanks for advice.

 

i'm not sure posting PMs immediately is the way to go. lay out the facts and go from there.

All right, here are the facts:

Xela posted a WTB ad for a SSS 6, I sent a PM with pics of a CGC copy and a raw copy, $350 & $125 respectively. He asked if I would take $450 shipped to the UK. I replied I would do $450 but wouldn't pay postage to the UK as it could be $50-$60. I'd pay the 1st $20 and he would have to pay the rest.

He replied that's OK and he would take them and sent his address.

I replied back that after packing the books and checking on usps.com that shipping was $63 for Priority Express International insured for $400; so his total would be $493

He replied back that he wasn't sure how it came to $63 since another boardie had just sent him a slab and several raw books for $25.

I sent him package dimensions and weight and said to check usps.com and LMK if I made a mistake and that I'd check again when I got home.

I checked again and sent him the 3 quotes from usps: Priority Express Int w/insurance for $63; Priority Int w/certificate of mailing for $53; and 1st class w/certificate of mailing for $31. I said I can't be responsible for the latter 2 as they can only be insured for up to $70. It was his choice on shipping.

He then replied that he would pass. No other explaination.

I replied that he had already said he would take them AFTER I had said the postage would probably be in the $50-$60 range.

He read that PM with no reply. I sent another PM asking if he always backed out of deals and wanted a response. He read it and removed himself from the topic.

I realize it has not been 30 days but his actions have demonstrated he won't complete a transaction he agreed to.

I'm also sending him a separate PM letting him know I've posted on here.

Let me know if I've left anything out.

Having never done this before, is this the thread where I post comments about a board person who agreed to purchase two books, agreed to the price, then said later I'll pass, read all my PMs after, then removed himself from the discussion?

I have all the PMs etc but not sure what to post or where or how to do hyperlinks?

Thanks for advice.

Bought a couple of books from Mike. Great packing and books were outstanding.

Thanks Mike!!

THUNDA 1 CGC 9.2 OW-W Aurora Pedigree for sale

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=7869872#Post7869872

I think I posted this in the PCH thread but not here. Picked it up a few months ago.

I need covers for:

This Magazine is Haunted 3

Worlds of Fear 2

Mister Mystery 7

Weird Mysteries 2, 4

G I Combat 87

Mystery In Space 1

Rawhide Kid 17

Weird Chills 2

War Fury 1

Voodoo Annual front cover

Need coverless copies of:

Astonishing 30 - cf

Fight 31 - all

Startling 49 - pages

Contact 12 - 1 page not cf

Purchased a Blueberry TPB. Super fast shipping and a great price.

Thanks Again!!

OK this is not a comic BUT it is way cool. I picked this up a couple of weeks ago. I think it has been out of circulation for a long time. I know I spent too much but I had to have it.