bluehorseshoe

This thread has over 1100 views. Everyone has said something, except Prez, the one guy that ties all of this together. He knows about the thread, undoubtedly he’s read the thread multiple times, but chooses to sit this one out. The desired result, at least for me, is that the nonsense I had to go through with this guy, stops with me. If Prez decides that he wants to give selling a try on here again, I would hope that this thread raises awareness as to what his past record is. And if I have got all of this wrong, then it’s my fault. The way that he proves that is to produce the information related to the book he said that he sent me, or the book shows up, and then what I feel like I would be obligated to do would be to retract the nomination. But you, me, and everyone know that’s not going to be the result of all of this. In the meantime, certainly people have their agendas, and will write about what they want to write about, never mind that it’s all theories or assumptions, and frankly, not terribly on point. I hope you continue to monitor and participate in this thread, because the information you provided reiterates what the issues are with this guy.

You’ve made it real clear that you have opinions. If only Prez would show up to validate any of your theories, you’d be in business. As far as my nomination goes, Prez hasn’t bothered to respond in three days to the PM that I sent him which notified him that he was nominated, and I’ve provided proof that he was aware of the nomination PM. So yeah, actually it holds up pursuant to the rules that govern these issues. But don’t let that stop whatever it is you are trying to say (and very loudly by the way.)

? I think he comprehends the difference between my issues and his issues, I think he’s just worn out with having to try to get you to comprehend not only that, but the issues here. But keep grinding it out, it’s entertaining to say the least.

Issue is no longer ripe. Or its moot, your choice.

Spiderwoman 1 and Iron Man 100 per PM

per PM.

Per the probation/HOS rules, 72 hours has elapsed since Prez received a PM from me notifying him of this nomination thread. I have attached a screenshot of the PM, which also shows he viewed the PM this past Friday afternoon, and never responded to this thread.

Sure. First, all dialogue regarding this transaction are contained in the PMs, and there are no emails, IMs, or whatever else folks use out there related to this transaction. The issue was related to shipping the book. Prez invoiced me with costs to ship the book using (presumably) a USPS Priority Mail Box for $15. I wanted the book shipped in a USPS Priority Mailer for $7. These were both options set forth in the "Rules" section of the sales thread. After going back and forth about that issue, he agreed to use an oversized envelope with rigid cardboard, but included the statement that it may not arrive in the condition stated in the sales thread. I never disagreed with that statement, but it gave me concern, and stated I wasnt waiving any part of the contract when it came to condition. Not that I had to state that, as Prez had a return policy for the books that he sold contained in his sales thread. Again, both of us could have reset the entire conversation at that point in terms of attitude, at least that is what I think.

Nothing has shown up. Last inquiry I made to Prez about the status of the book was April 14, 2018, and he has not responded.

I can't say you are wrong or right in your assumptions of why Prez did or did not do related to this. As long as we are speculating, I think that it would be a reasonable response, if he was "done with me" as you are stating, to just have refunded my payment immediately upon receipt. Instead, he shipped the book, or says he did, but I wont ever know that because of his refusal to provide me with that information, unless I paid him for it. As far as threatening people on here with nomination for probation, especially when such a nomination would be not be valid under the nomination rules, I you and I will just have to agree to disagree on that issue. I didn't pay him because he threatened me with a probation nomination, I paid him to be able to get the transaction going and get past the going back and forth between the two of us.

In hindsight, both of us could have cooled our jets and acted in a more civil manner. That is without question. I don't agree with you regarding justification of Prez's actions; I dont think threatening me, or anyone else with probation, not sending the book, or if he did, refusing to give me any shipping information about the book, unless I paid him my original paypal payment, and paid him $50/hour to "find the receipt," is acceptable, but we hall have different opinions. I certainly don't mean to waste your or anyone's time.

I very, very much appreciate everyone's comments and insight up to this point, and for taking the time to read and react.

There was no airmail charge, the shipping was via USPS Priority Mail. Whether that was supposed to be accomplished by air or truck or train or whatever, I dont know, but airmail service was never an issue in this transaction. Further, the expectations of the conditions of the book that Prez mentions in one of his PMs to me is related to language I included with the payment I made to him via paypal, which is the Overstreet Price Guide definition of "Near Mint," which I take the position is the authority in terms of comic book grading descriptions, and I include a grade definition with most of the payments I made for books over, say, $30 or so. The book I paid for and Prez never delivered to me was advertised in this sales thread as "NM," so that is why I included that language in the payment email.

See the bottom of the first post in this thread. I PM'd Prez advising him of the nomination thread, then posted the nomination thread, and noted the date and time I PM'd him with notice. He's already responded to that PM, which was just more of the same stuff from him.

There were two tinypic links that did not work, I have replaced those.

Here is a complete screenshot copy of the entire PM regarding this transaction above:

This is the first time I have nominated someone for probation. I have reviewed the guidelines and rules very carefully and on multiple occasions, but I apologize up front if I have done this incorrectly or for some other misstep. I am nominating Prez for probation, here goes: On March 9, 2018, I posted an in Prez's thread for a copy of Marvel Preview #8 in Near Mint condition, listed here: On March 13, 2018, Prez requested payment for the book. I live in the US, Prez lives in Canada, but stated he would mail the book to me by coming down to the United States and mailing the book via USPS Priority Mail service. Between March 16, 2018, and March 22, 2018, Prez and I went back and forth regarding issues related to shipping. On March 22, 2018, Prez demanded payment or threatened to nominate me for probation. Although I knew that the nomination guidelines did not permit him to nominate me at that time (30 day rule applied as transaction was still valid), on March 23, 2018, I paid Prez the full amount for the book and shipping, which he accepted. On April 2, 2018, and April 3, 2018, I sent PMs to Prez stating I had not received the book, and asked him when he mailed the book, and to forward all tracking and shipping information to me. I did not receive any response. On April 4, 2018, I sent a PM to Prez stating I had not received the book, and asked him when he mailed the book, and to forward all tracking and shipping information to me. He responded: “I have sent all the packages and everyone but you got their stuff. Its really odd. If you don’t receive it in the next few days, just claim it via Paypal protection.” On April 4, 2018, I again asked Prez when he mailed the book, and to forward all tracking and shipping information to me. He replied that he had crossed the border to drop off the package, and that he could not find the receipt, and requested I give it a day or two, and then to contact Paypal for a refund. On April 9, 2018, Prez sent a PM inquiring if I had received the book. I responded on April 10, 2018, asking if he had found the receipt, and again requested from him the date of shipping, and the tracking number for the package. On the same day, Prez responded that he could not find the receipt, and stated that he would refund my money, and then stated: “I trust you will let me know when the book arrives.” Later in the day on April 10, 2018, I received a paypal refund for my payment for the book. Following the receipt of the paypal refund, I sent Prez a PM on the same date, stating that the transaction remained uncompleted, again requested the tracking and shipping information, the date he mailed the package, and the location of the USPS facility he mailed the package from. On April 10, 2018, in response to my request, Prez sent me a PM and instructed me to resend my paypal payment “and will do the leg work to finding your receipt.” Following that PM, on April 10, 2018, Prez sent me a PM stating that due to the fact that his “time is of value,” he would charge me a rate of $50.00 an hour to look for the mailing receipt he had previously stated was lost. That same day I responded by PM questioning why he required me to resend my paypal payment, and why I should have to pay him $50 an hour for information related to the shipping and tracking of the book I had already purchased, and he had already stated that he had mailed, and I subsequently again requested that he deliver to me the tracking and shipping information, the date he mailed the package, and the location of the USPS facility he mailed the package from, and further stated that all I could do at this point was wait for the book to arrive. That same day, Prez sent me a PM stating that the book could arrive the next day, next month, next year, etc., and instructed me to launch a complaint against the United States Postal Service, and informed me that he was “billing me” for 3 minutes of his time to read and respond to my last PM, presumably at the $50.00 an hour rate he had previously quoted me. On April 14, 2018, I sent Prez a PM and requested the tracking and shipping information for the book he mailed, the date he mailed the package, and the location of the USPS facility he mailed the package from. I have received no response to the said April 14, 2018, PM to Prez. The basis for the nomination is two-fold: First, Prez and I have an enforceable contract – Prez made an offer to sell the book, I accepted and gave consideration (payment). The fact that he sent me a paypal refund does not void the contract, and as such, the transaction remains uncompleted. In the meantime, I have searched ebay, MCS, and other sites looking for the same book (Marvel Preview #8 in Near Mint condition) in comparable condition and price, and there is nothing available that I could take my refund and simply purchase from someone else. On top of that, the book I bought and paid for has a really cool date stamp in a real vibrant blue color in what I think is the perfect position on the front cover, which is something I am really into, just as people are into pedigree books or books with double covers. This deprives me of the benefit of the transaction, and puts me in a position that I have to pay more for the same book I have already paid for, because Prez did not honor his part of this contract. Of course, this could all be solvable if: 1) the book appeared in the mail, or 2) Prez could give me the information I need to track the book, so I can figure out if I have a chance of receiving what I paid for, or just move on. In plain terms, I don’t think Prez ever mailed the Marvel Preview 8 NM to me in the first place. I think he either sold it on another forum or venue, for more money, or had seller's remorse and won't sell it, at least not at the price I paid for it. If he did, why would he simply refund my payment without waiting to see if the book arrived to me? Furthermore, despite my seven total requests, to this day, he has refused to send me any shipping and tracking information related to the mailing of the package to me, and refuses to tell me the date that he mailed the package, or reveal the location of the post office he mailed the package from. Second, and frankly, this is what really got in my crawl, on April 10, 2018, Prez demanded that I resend him my paypal payment, which he was going to use to pay him for his time to look for the shipping and tracking receipt for my package, meaning that the original payment I sent was now being sent not under the premise of payment for a comic book, but was to pay him for some sort of service he felt that he was entitled to, despite my numerous requests, and at a rate of $50.00 an hour, to provide me something that was essential to discovering where exactly this comic book was in the shipping process. Of course, this $50/hour information seach/retrieval fee is not listed in the “rules” section of Prez’s sales thread, he made up this fee to deter me from trying to complete this transaction. My take on the general purpose of the probation/nomination process is the help buyers and sellers complete transactions. Prez should be on probation in these forums because what he decided was the right thing to do with our transaction is to extort money from me in exchange for information regarding the shipping and tracking of a package he allegedly mailed to me, but in the end refuses to provide me the information, which prohibits me from finding my comic book. The fact that he suggested I file a complaint or claim with the United States Postal Service that would effectively amount to a false filing due to the fact that he either never sent the book, and/or wont provide me with the information to actually file a valid claim shows the egregiousness of his actions. I very much appreciate everyone reading this, I know its long, but it is worth it to me to organize and write it, if it stops someone like Prez from doing this to someone else. I have a complete screenshot copy of the entire PM conversation regarding this transaction that I will post with a "reveal" code to support this nomination. Edit: Per the probation guidelines, I sent Prez a PM advising him I had nominated him for probation at 2:20 p.m. on 4/27/2018, prior to starting this thread.

Purchased copper books from fastballspecial in March, 2018. Secure shipping, great communication, pretty much exactly what everyone has already said in this thread, and even threw in a freebie. Thank you sir.

If 287 is the other deathlock cover and not 285, then I meant 287. also, any and all of these covers, all day long:

Right around this time of the year before Con season really heats up, I reconcile all of my Convention buy lists from the previous year, along with want lists that I keep going from year to year. Here is the one book that is consistently on every want/buy list I have, and it seems impossible to find in NM/NM+ condition. I have found one in this condition in the past year: I think it sells well when its available. There a couple floating on ebay (9.8s) listed for $699, and that is unreasonable, but the stock image I used in this post is listed as a 7.5 for $129.95.

I was just firing that mess off during the Sox/Yankee game. Of course 213, also 222 (my favorite Wolvie v. Sabertooth cover), and 245 (weird Liefield Longshot cover). Also DD 238 (awesome Sabertooth cover), and 257 (DD v Punisher)

UXM 205, 210-212, 256-258, 267-283 DD 241 ASM 331, 332, 333 GI Joe 26, 27 all prints IH 367, 368 CA 285, 286 Ghost Rider 1, 2, 5, 5 gold 2nd print, 6, 15 gold 2nd print New Mutants 89-99 Wolvie 17, 25, 41, 41 gold, 42, 42 gold