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I'm glad you responded. I was trying to give any newbie a quick overview (not my definitions) of the history of the terminology. You have actually done a deep dive, and I agree, it is not simple. And, you have pointed out a clear point about artist's intent, which is a big factor. Thanks, David

It looks to me like he has two authentic Romita sketches, but I'm just a rube, and the pricing is beyond me.

LINK TO WIKI DEFINITION of "fine art" and from dictionary.com... a visual art considered to have been created primarily for aesthetic purposes and judged for its beauty and meaningfulness, specifically, painting, sculpture, drawing, watercolor, graphics, and architecture. So, the distinction, (one source dates it to the 18th century and the distinction does not apply the same across all cultures), is from commercial, or applied art, or crafts. David

Bump for lowered prices. Prices starting at $3. Click through to my other auctions for more books in different categories. Thanks for your consideration, David S. Albright

A few years ago "surfer99" created this checklist. The Amazing Spiderman 28 The Amazing Spiderman 29 The Amazing Spiderman 30 The Amazing Spiderman 31 The Avengers 19, Vista Publications The Avengers 20, Vista Publications The Avengers 21, Vista Publications The Avengers 22, Vista Publications Daredevil 9 Daredevil 10 Fantastic Four 42, Canam Publishers Sales Corp Fantastic Four 43, Canam Publishers Sales Corp Fantastic Four 44, Canam Publishers Sales Corp Fantastic Four 45, Canam Publishers Sales Corp Journey Into Mystery 119, Atlas Magazines, Inc. Journey Into Mystery 120, Atlas Magazines, Inc. Journey Into Mystery 121, Atlas Magazines, Inc. Journey Into Mystery 122, Atlas Magazines, Inc. Sgt. Fury 21, Bard Publishing Corp Sgt. Fury 22, Bard Publishing Corp Tales to Astonish 71 X-men 13, Canam Publishers Sales Corp X-men 14, Canam Publishers Sales Corp David

I have been pleased with Heritage. Nothing knocked out of the park, but I felt my consignments were well presented in a major marketplace. I like the comfort factor of them handling the money end of the transaction. I have used them for original comic art, and rare (non-comic) books. David

Love this piece.

I am considering this book. Can't these be printed in the US anymore? David

That ROM #16 cover by Hannigan and Milgrom was in my collection a while ago, and I think I sold it on this forum (DocJoe?). Really nice cover, I bought it directly from Ed Hannigan. David

I only have framed pieces I have paid less than, or roughly $200 each, so I don't particularly worry about exposure damage (northwest room, indirect light). But, I've seen enough distressed art that it really should be a consideration for new collectors of high end art. Particularly, pieces that have attachments (lettering balloons, photostat corrections, titles), or whiteout, or zipatone, or marker (not india ink) should be exhibited with care because of the uneven aging qualities of the collage components. David

If it is a "blind" tear (practically invisible) with no paper loss, I have, in the past, used Filmoplast library tape on the back for an archival common tear, unless you have a piece that is worth tens of thousands of dollars. David

vodou said "Which came first for people in this (original comic/illustration art) hobby: "art" or "product" appreciation? That's a great poll question, but I think we also already know the answer for close to 100% of people on this board..."product". This is another way of saying nostalgia or use, that's what drives growing demand for limited supply, that's what pushes generational "wants" higher." What came first for me was the childhood attraction to comic books, the product. Then as a young adult, I was an aspiring artist. This exposure to the fine art world eventually led me to reconsider comic books from that viewpoint. But, I look at original comic art in the context which it was created. Particularly, I find the collaborative aspect of comic book art, from the earliest layouts and scripts, steps in production, to the final product (the actual book) is most interesting to me, and sets it apart from some other fields of fine art. So, I have mixed feelings about messing with found production art since, hey, you're messing with somebody's vision here. But, it's not just somebody, it's somebodies (plural). So, I understand the desire to uncover the artist's original intent prior to the edit. But I'll lean toward caution when I try to restore anything, since there are some unforeseen results that could occur. I'd rather not place myself, or a hired restorer, in the group of somebodies years or decades later. David

Agreed, nice HULK. Looks like it has some fading, to be expected, and mat wear from a previous frame job. Love it! Some one (?) should find a way to grab this. (Hint, hint to the wife Christmas is coming) David

Here I am just live streaming my thoughts about 2019 goals to be referenced at the end of 2019. I need to get rid of a ton of stuff at the lower end of the spectrum. But, I know dumping does not work, so I will have to invest personal time to maximize the return on my past purchases. I have the lucky situation where I have considerable time for this effort. At the high end, I don't see myself spending for art at these levels, but I watch because I have some decent stuff which might be curving toward a peak value. I would prefer to sell just before peak, to give the buyer a little glow. For 2019.... -sell one piece @ $5000 or greater -continue selling lesser pieces on a semi-regular basis -books need to go, efforting as we speak. -continue to experiment with bulk lots, what do buyers want Subject to editing, David

I unwittingly posted this to end on ebay right when everyone will be eating turkey, and probably not hunting for original art. Check it out! Starts at $200. UPDATE Relisted and still available And, here I include a link to all of my auctions, many are comic-related. Questions and comments in the thread, and personal messages, are all welcome! Happy Thanksgiving, David S. Albright all current aokartman ebay listings (17) seller name bakeralbright

Rick said "If someone wants to partly "unrestore" it, which I think is nutty, they could." I agree, and at that point you might as well choose to do a straight-up recreation because the piece would have been so transformed from the original state. Alternatively, or tangentially, perhaps the OP should consider restoring the border notes since the decision has already been made to transform the original published state. It would improve the presentation (for me). Again, all opinion, which is what OP seems to be seeking. David

I am on board with the interest in the original art underneath production stats. And, I wonder about the durability of digital files that record the actual final production art (before restoration). Nothing is forever, and there are some trade offs. David

I would never have had the courage to do such extensive restoration given the uncertain climate among collectors about such activity. This seems like a wonderful result, but I really don't have any objection to the original, either. And, it looks like you lost some interesting hand written notes, including "shot", which indicates it was actually the original piece shot for publication. It boils down to your taste, and it seems you're quite pleased, and I'm happy for you! Best, David

Agree that this particular field for investment purposes will take a long, but slow, decline once heat is off or the next recession. But, that's not really why some collectors ever bought in the first place. Nobody gets hurt in a big downturn if you bought for appreciation of the art, because that doesn't go away. (glass half full) David

I like my only Dillin page because it features main DC heroes and is representative of the period (not edgy, just belonging). So, nostalgia, yes, with a nod toward an appreciation of the beauty of "workmanship" type material. JLA #100 p. 4 Giella inks (1972)

Ed Hannigan and Klaus Janson.

I don't follow current books, but that last panel is great. David

Great cover you can love for a long time! David

Bump for new books added, just hit the link, it's not a lot of stuff. Best, David

Those are fantastic, and I wish they were a little closer by just having attached stats for the feeling. David