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is foxing notated in grader notes or does it just say stain?

Some major bread

I will be trying to snag a set if they only made 250

I was hoping something

anywhere discuss if skybound was doing black Friday sale thing again this year?

Also have the print runs been discussed lately, looking for recap on early issues and keys. Thanks again

Lucille first print is still my fav #100

trying to start building an invincible collection. After issue #1 what are considered some keys from this series (without me reading through 300 pages of thread) Also what is the current rate for #1 9.8?

Avengers 83 isn't the first appearance of a character, just the first published depiction of a character's likeness - as portrayed by an impostor. You might as well just go full Ween. Really now, you haven't even read the issues you're discussing, have you? In all 3 of the first appearances, the Enchantress is the one to give the Valkyrie's likeness/personality/powers to each character. In Avengers 83 she used the likeness on herself against the Avengers. In Hulk 142, she used the likeness on Samantha Pennington to attack the Hulk. In Defenders #4, she again used it on Barbara Norriss to help her with the Defenders. What in the world is the difference? Avengers 83: 1st time Valkyrie's name is used? Check. First Valkyrie's likeness? Check. Prominent cover appearance? Check. Valkyrie's looks exactly the same as in every appearance over the next 30-40 years? Check.

But Jay, this is not a "ret-con". The stories weren’t altered, they just progressed one after the other, as they liked the idea and then properly introduced the character. This obsession with "first apperances" just clouds the fact that the creative process of writing happens in stages. They’re all important. (thumbs u

For the sake of Valkyrie the first appearance is clearly avengers 83. All the recons of characters and alias aren't first appearances. First appearance of the Alias maybe but not the character.

Valiant used three staples on Harbinger #1 along with paper that was slightly crisp. So you will see a spine opening on many copies where the staple broke the paper open. It's a nasty looking defect. I have a few examples like this, and yet the rest of the book will look perfect otherwise. There was a coupon included in Harbinger #1 through #6 that was a separate sheet of white cardstock. It was possible for that coupon to slip out, so some of them got a staple to hold the coupon sheet. Some didn't. Harbinger #1 exists with and without the center (third) staple. So should CGC have "Two Staple Version" and "Three Staple Version" like they did with Rai #0 glassy and Matte? What would be the difference, all in manufacturing.

Nope, it wouldn't be a copy of Rai #0... but I'm not sure what the correct answer would be... but it might be fun to follow the white rabbit down that rabbit hole. Action #1 was the start of the whole superhero genre. The single best copy of Action #1 is the "best copy for the first issue of the whole superhero genre". CGC 10.0 Rai #0 can't be the "best copy for the first issue of the whole Valiant universe" because Rai #0 isn't the start of the Valiant universe. The start of the Valiant universe was Magnus #1 from 1991. If there was a single best copy of Magnus #1 it would be the "best copy for the first issue of the Valiant universe". Currently, that's a big tie for the 273 copies graded at CGC 9.8, because there are none higher. There are also 17 copies of CGC 9.8 Magnus #1 (1991) Signature Series... so, you could argue that those 17 are tied, or that whichever one has the "best signatures" might be the best. That all depends on whether signature series books are viewed as "better" than universal books. In terms of "better sale prices", that's true, but not necessarily true in terms of "better published surviving copy" since they were published without signatures years before CGC existed and started witnessing signatures. But then what if a CGC competitor graded a 9.9? Ummm... maybe we should talk about which book is the Action #1 and ignore the best copy in existence aspect for now. We've already made an argument for Magnus #1 (1991) being like the Action #1 for the Valiant universe. BUT... The current Valiant universe doesn't include Magnus, so the first original title in the Valiant universe was Harbinger #1 (1992). So, you could argue that Harbinger #1 (1992) is more like the Action #1 for the Valiant universe. BUT... The Harbinger Foundation and its leader, Toyo Harada, were introduced before Harbinger #1 (1992) in Solar #3 (1991). So, you could argue that Solar #3 (1991) is more like the Action #1 for the Valiant universe. BUT... Rai was the first original character in the Valiant universe, and the Rai (four issue mini-series) was published as flipbooks on the back side of Magnus #5 through Magnus #8. So, you could argue that Magnus #5 / Rai #1 mini-series (1991) is more like the Action #1 for the Valiant universe. BUT... If you're going to include Magnus #5 in consideration for the Action #1 for the Valiant universe, it would be weird to say it started at Magnus #5 instead of saying it started at Magnus #1. That circles the argument back to Magnus #1 being more like the Action #1 for the Valiant universe. BUT... The Magnus stories as published by Valiant (or VALIANT in all caps at the time) specifically included the published stories from the Gold Key Magnus books as canon within the Valiant universe. So, you could argue that Gold Key Magnus #1 (1963) is more like Action #1 for the Valiant universe than Magnus #1 (1991). BUT... Doctor Solar #1 (1962) is older than Magnus #1 (1963), and the Solar in the Valiant universe was "inspired" by the Dr. Solar from Gold Key comics. So, you could argue that Gold Key Dr. Solar #1 (1962) is more like Action #1 for the Valiant universe than Magnus #1 (1963). BUT... The Valiant universe also included Turok Dinosaur Hunter, first seen by Valiant in Magnus #12 (1992), but the character was first published by Dell in 1954 as Four Color #596, aka Turok Son of Stone #1 (1954). So, you could argue that Four Color #596 (1954) is more like Action #1 for the Valiant universe than any more recent comic. But no matter which argument you pick, Rai #0 (1992) isn't the Action #1 (1938) of the Valiant universe. If we compare it to anything, it would have to be more like something from 1939 (or newer) than any book from 1938. A lot of thought was put in to this. I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. Thank you

NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

well said

TWD #100 Lucille Robert Kirkman Signed Dealer variant is still my favorite. I remember my LCS getting his signed copy in and CGC opened up for SS which lasted for a week before unsigned copies showed up. Good times

134 hands down for me Love all J Kirby 4th world stuff and have all the keys I think 135 is a sleeper because it sneaks in there before FP1 and New Gods 1 For me I would .....and I do want all of Darkseid keys because he is the best DC Villain (cosmic fan here) and bound to be on the big screen at some point. Just one of those many characters who have multiple key books. Jimmy 134 Jimmy 135 FP 1 NG 1

Allen was great to work with. Purchased a copper slab and received very fast and secure. Thanks so much!

Why are we talking about misty knight in the modern thread? Started this discussion in bronze thread first and nobody responded. MP 21 is the book to have. 20 she mentioned so clearly not a first or cameo Team up 1 is an after the fact - retcon, never should be considered a first appearance.

With misty knight casting should see a nice bump on MP21! And no marvel team up is not her first appearance just a recon

Roughly $500, but it can fluctuate up and down a bit. I would say closer to $550 - $600 if you can find one

mine didn't have designation either, wish they would have just left this alone and not stated it.

I passed on several of these in dollar bins two weeks ago!

I would lean towards B. I think this book might have a very slight premium on #1 just because census is lower (doesn't mean it always will be). Lots of folks just don't consider previews to be first appearances unless those pages are reproduced in the true first issue.