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Wow. They must _really_ be hoping to crack Diamond's top 100...
Ninjak #1 just cracked the Top 100.
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Psylocke has been cast now. Bring out your x-men #256
X-Men #256 might get a small bump, but I think New Mutants Annual #2 and Captain Britain #8 will be the big winners here.
disagree, Ninja version is totally different inferior.
Fixed.
get out of here
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not sure why anyone would care about the BRIT version, not even remotely how she will be interpreted on the big screen.
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sorry have to ask again, what was the first spider-aliens? I think this is one of the few I haven't picked up yet.
Magnus #6 has a "genetically altered" spider-alien named Chien-Lung who looks human.
Magnus #7 has a "more traditional" spider-alien named Ch'In with only four fingers on each hand and the strange humanoid body style.
Magnus #8 has a final panel with the "traditional" spider-aliens with the tendril-like "hair" - which probably have 6 eyes, but they're wearing helmets so we can't see.
wow, great detail. Thank you! So what would be considered the key or is there not one? Is 6 cameo? I like 7 for other reasons so might just stick with that book
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sorry have to ask again, what was the first spider-aliens? I think this is one of the few I haven't picked up yet.
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Psylocke has been cast now. Bring out your x-men #256
X-Men #256 might get a small bump, but I think New Mutants Annual #2 and Captain Britain #8 will be the big winners here.
disagree, Ninja version is totally different
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Psylocke has been cast now. Bring out your x-men #256
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I think Harbinger 10 can catch fire. I do not have any inside track or knowledge of anything. I'm just speculating. This team f'in rocks and with the correct writer the possibilities are endless. I would love to see them on the Big Screen one day chasing down Harbingers. How cool would that be to see them dial up for new powers?! Hopefully their day will come!
Right there with ya (thumbs u
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Thanks TRM you are a great customer!
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Letter Hacks confirmed that #132 is the 1st appearance of Alpha. God I hate that cover
Huge!
Go for the loot crate variant than, nice zombie pic
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Quick question. I love the holochrome covers but now worth the space to keep in 9.8 besides the golds. My favorite gold was the ninjak because of the refractor technique used. Did any of the other golds have that or just Ninjak???
Just the Ninjak, although there are some nice Image holochromes that have the same thing, as well as variations.
Avengelyne #1, Avengelyne/Glory #1, Darkness #11, Vampirella/Shi, Vampirella/Nyx, Prophet #1 (which is exceptionally rare.)
All sorts.
Thanks for the info! Not looking for anything besides the valiant ones so that will be easy for me to do since there is just one book like that.
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Quick question. I love the holochrome covers but now worth the space to keep in 9.8 besides the golds. My favorite gold was the ninjak because of the refractor technique used. Did any of the other golds have that or just Ninjak???
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Wow that's a lot to think about. I will think twice now. Thanks for the info.
So with all that said what books would bring more than $50 in 9.8
Again we all know the major keys by now.
Archer & Armstrong #1 ?
Shadowman #16 ?
Eternal warrior #5 ?
Shadowman #10 ?
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so what books are worth grading and what ones aren't from the original Valiant. We all know the major keys but where do you draw the line?
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the $1.00 bins are starting to run dry of desirable Valiant issues.
Agreed I have dug through as many as I could find within 3 hour radius of central Florida. Starting to not be worth the time as they are few and far between now
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Those of you making these wonderful "$1" finds for Valiants should be very grateful. Understand that, unlike many books from the 90's, there have always been people who would happily pay $1 for the books being discussed, in any quantity.
You have 1,000 Solar #3s for $1 each?
Sold.
Done.
No question, other than "could you do 50 cents each if I take them all?"
That's not true of almost any other book, and certainly not of any other company, from the era.
So, that you found them for cheap...be glad one of us didn't get to them first, or they would have been gone.
so very true though -
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We'll see.
We've had 3 new 9.8s in the last two months and 9 new 9.8s in the last six months.
Back when it was a $300-$325 book and In the absence of public movie hype.
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You know what's crazy?
There's not 1 WD #2 9.8 anywhere for sale.
2nd print yes... first print nope
im sending one to CGC monday.. fingers crossed
ask this nice fella to part with his
by far the 1st print of #2 was the hardest book for me to obtain in 9.8. I had to buy several raw and slab copies before I could finally get a 9.8. 6 was a tough one as well but #2 was very hard. Long term I think this is a very good book to have.
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To assume that anyone and everyone with potential 9.8s rushed to slab them 7 years ago when the first few went to $2,500 is misguided.
Many many folks just weren't thinking about the pre-Unity Valiant books they had left over from the downturn. And many folks just aren't plugged into CGC.
There is zero evidence to back up the assertion that effectively anyone who had 9.8 potentials would have slabbed them in 2008-2009. If that were true, the number of 9.8s would not have tripled since Jan. 2010 (which it has).
That timing coincides with the start of the new Valiant. This is going to drive submissions, no doubt about it.
You focus on the "tripling" but I look at raw numbers and they tell a different story. You can say the number of copies tripled if it went from 1 to 3.
I certainly hear you. Just like I heard the people who said the same thing in 2003, 2005, 2007, etc. We still only have 140ish 9.8s on the census for a book with a ~40K print run that has never sold for much less than $300 and as much as $2k+.
If you really think there are going to be 250 this time next year, I do not see the evidence for it, at all.
My point too. For a book that has always been popular what is the justification for waiting 25 years to finally grade it. The only ones they will still be graded are ones found in the depths of bins which mostly likely will not be 9.8's. They are a few exceptions of people the hoard raw books but the general collecting community doesn't do that. I am not a betting person but I would take a bet on Harbinger 9.8's not increasing its 9.8 threshold past 200 within 4 years especially with how tough CGC is grading right now. They are extremely tough because competition is tough on grading and that won't stop for another year or two.
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I'm digging this Solar # 3 homage:
Bob did a great job on that! I was sure it was BWS until I saw the signature!
I wish the inside was as good!
Nice cover! Need an SS copy of that one
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We're only just now getting to the point, nearly 30 years on, when good, reliable statistical data can be mined from coin slabbing. With only the one company, and only 15 years on, the picture is still much too fuzzy to draw any really meaningful conclusions.
In this case, I trust in Valiantman's expert analytical skills and his application of descriptive statistics to make an assumption about CGC results over time. That doesn't require decades of data when it comes to such sampling. But it does require defining the population (graded books), sampling frame (9.8's of all graded books), an appropriate sample size that can accurately represent the characteristics of the overall population, and validation there is no bias or error in the data pulled.
If Valiantman's hypothesis in this case is CGC changed its standards over time, and through the sampling of all 9.8's delivered can validate there was a shift in results, then the assumption is there may have been a shift due to the increase in 9.8 counts compared to all other grades.
But I think an interesting chart to validate the hypothesis further is a comparison of all grades to see if they also experienced any shift in results.
AMEN again!
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Somewhere along the line CGC eased up on grading Harbinger #1 and 9.8's started popping up a lot more. At the same time this happened the price of Harbinger #1 was sinking drastically, which made slabbing all the high grade copies sitting in collections not a priority anymore.
This isn't true, and here's why:
The very reason that price of Harbinger #1 was sinking drastically was precisely because 9.8s started popping up a lot more. The exact opposite is true: people rushed to have them slabbed to beat the market to the bottom.
And, as I said before, "$300 for a 1992 book" (which no other regular issue book can claim, by the way...Harby #1 is, hands down, the most valuable regular book of 1992), is still plenty of incentive to slab.
It's not like this book was thrown away back in 1992. This was a huge book within the first year it came out. The copies are out there regardless of the print run.What copies? 9.8s?
I feel there will be an influx of high grade copies available of all the early Valiant keys shortly, especially once they give us details on just what exact properties will be coming to the big screen.There already has been an influx of high grade copies of all the early Valiant keys...it happened in 2008/2009.
We will creep along in dribs and drabs at this point...there will be no more "doubling the census in a couple of months" for books like Harby #1, Solar #10, etc.
By the way...I sold a Harby #1 for $720 cash tonight. First 9.8 Harby #1 I have sold in two years. Around 2012, I had a couple of offers of $450, $475 for a copy, and I held out. My price was $500. I turned down multiple offers, and those people eventually ended up buying their copies for less than they offered me. I considered that I might have made a mistake turning down that money, but I was ok with it, because I literally have the cost of slabbing and about $10 each into these books. If I never got the price I wanted, I was ok with keeping them forever and never selling, even if they (especially if they) ended up at $50 in 9.8.
It took several years, but I finally got what I wanted, and then some.
I'm happy, buyer's happy, win. I'm glad I didn't settle.
Agreed again, these other folks are just trying to buy on the low and talk the market down, not gonna happen
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Some more characters who have played a big part in the new Valiant:
Quantum # Woody #1: First Quantum, First Woody
Harbinger #14: FIrst Livewire
Rai & the Future Force #9: First Spylocke
I have seen more than one source say livewire appeared in 14 but I don't see it. Anyone else? I clearly see her in issue 15.
Per the Valiantfans website.
http://www.valiantfan.com/issue/show/h14
http://www.valiantfan.com/issue/show/h15
I don't see Livewire anywhere in #14 though. Stronghold is on two panels on the last page.
Thank you, just wanted to make sure before I tried to hunt down 15 and was off because 14 was the book to get. Can anyone else concur with this?
so very true though 
Valiant first appearances (quick version for beginners) Now with pictures!
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awesome, even more reason to like this book now