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These are great Felix. Thanks for doing them. I really enjoyed the Glen Gold video. The insight into the work and why it appealed to Glen was fantastic. Good job Glen. It sure beats my "it's purty" approach when people ask me about the work I collect.
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So did this ever get resolved for you yet Ankur?
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It was a steal back in 2008. I must have shed a few tears at the missed opportunity
The seller had two other pages, both also $100 BIN. IIRC, at least one of them was another #1 page.
It's likely this seller got all three. I didn't know until someone showed me after the fact and asked "were these good deals?"
I think all art dealers should have a special one day only "2008 prices" sale.
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Yeah, I go back and forth on that one. It's certainly not a killer example from #1, but it does have all three lead characters (how many pages in #1 have all 3? Can't be THAT many.).
The composition is weak and the bottom panels are just set-up. It's one of those pages that I WANT to like because of its importance, but it's just...
.I'm sure I'll regret not tire-kicking when it inevitably disappears.
I agree. The page is nice with the 3 leads, yet the bottom half has no substance but the setup as you said so it doesn't scream "own me" to me either.
The problem now is if you keep tire-kicking at what point does the owner not bother with you anymore. Or worse, they feel with the rise in interest with the upcoming show that the page is worth close to that price.
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Thanks guys and congrats to changer!Well if anyone wants a Preacher page you can get one for the small sum of $8999.99 on Ebay -
I love these listings. Do they ever really pan out for the crazy price they ask for?
When that first showed up, the BIN was $10K. It's been up on eBay for years, and as far as I can tell, no one's been willing to go anywhere near that price. But I wouldn't be surprised if it moved in the next 12 months; the seller will get offers and unless he absolutely won't budge, or raises the price, should be able to work something out with someone.
The best/worst part is that this page was originally sold on eBay back in 2008 or so. Also as a BIN. For $100.
$100? Man o man how times have changed. I had no idea it was up on Ebay for years. I absolutely loved the comic when it was out but never got bit for an original page yet. That may change...wonder if he will sell it for $8999.98?
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Well if anyone wants a Preacher page you can get one for the small sum of $8999.99 on Ebay -
I love these listings. Do they ever really pan out for the crazy price they ask for?
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Deal! Shipping is $1k, Express, fully insured, worldwideI've heard numerous collectors won't even put up pieces anymore because they are tired of people constantly asking after them, ...Me.
As soon as you put anything up, even if it's not in my wheelhouse, I'm going to "tire kick" the heck out of it.
Feel free: http://www.comicartfans.com/mylowry.asp?gsub=43
But you'd need to offer at least 3x what I paid to tempt me
I said "tire kick" so how is $10 for the the Amazing Spider-Man 03/25/1985 page.
Lemme know when yo send PayPal over!Haha. You got me... I'll get right on that. Usually I just offer free shipping when I sell because everyone asks me if I can do something. Free shipping seems to win the deal more times than not.
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I've heard numerous collectors won't even put up pieces anymore because they are tired of people constantly asking after them, ...
Me.
As soon as you put anything up, even if it's not in my wheelhouse, I'm going to "tire kick" the heck out of it.
Feel free: http://www.comicartfans.com/mylowry.asp?gsub=43
But you'd need to offer at least 3x what I paid to tempt me
I said "tire kick" so how is $10 for the the Amazing Spider-Man 03/25/1985 page.
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I've heard numerous collectors won't even put up pieces anymore because they are tired of people constantly asking after them, ...
Me.
As soon as you put anything up, even if it's not in my wheelhouse, I'm going to "tire kick" the heck out of it.
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I attribute the growth trend by year to the simple fact that CAF exposed a great number of people over a few short years to either start to collect original art, or having a place to enjoy or share it. It coincides with the explosion in comic art prices as well. Like I mentioned, we still get over 200k unique people each month on CAF, and 55% + visits are from returning people - so a very regular loyal viewership. We still get 20+ signups every day so it isn't like it isn't growing.
Bill, I am not a member, but have thought about finally joining after reading through some of your posts. I've received recommendations from members of these boards in the past, but just have never gone through the motions. One thing I can definitely see being of value is the classifieds section. Although I did want to ask about something I noticed - after performing a search, I noticed several pieces I was interested in having "NFS" under the selling status. I'm not sure I understand what the person is attempting to accomplish by listing a piece in the classified section that isn't for sale. Are certain members using the classifieds as an extension of their gallery, or using it to get eyes on their art? I had intentions of messaging the person, but when I saw the "NFS" I didn't bother. Also, does the classifieds show past sales information? Is the reporting of a final sale price made mandatory, or is it left to the discretion of the buyer and seller? Appreciate your time in responding.
I wouldn't be deterred by the NFS designation. Could be that the lister hasn't fully-updated all the description fields. Nothing to lose by enquiring.
Thanks, I appreciate it. I didn't want to make an missteps even before becoming a member. In other collecting communities I'm a part of, it's fairly taboo to contact someone if they post NFS. It's mostly relating to sharing convention being founded on anti-pitch, anti-selling, and how annoying it can be when you are just sharing something and you get bombarded with comments or PM's asking "how much?" The other thing is I noticed a pattern of all this members listings having that NFS so I thought it was too deliberate to chalk it down to a situation where he hasn't updated the listing, unless he does his listings in batches.
Yeah you should by all means pursue the piece listed in the Classified section even if it has NFS on it. I've found it's mostly people didn't realize they forgot to post a price. Every once in a while you will find someone trying to get the most for the piece so they will ask you to make an offer.
As far as inquiring when the piece is listed as NFS and is not in the Classified section the reactions are varied. Most people will just say thanks but not interested. Every once in a while you will find someone at the right time and they are willing to sell, but don't waste everyone's time if you don't have the money to go forward with the purchase. You will find a lot of "tire kickers" out there once you start posting artwork. Don't be surprised that once you start posting your work people may inquire after them and as you soon as you come to an agreement they disappear. That is if you want to sell the piece. I was guilty of this a few times and don't do it anymore because I got annoyed with myself when I couldn't seal the deal. I've heard numerous collectors won't even put up pieces anymore because they are tired of people constantly asking after them, so keep that in mind if you are irritated by that possibility.
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Just a quick update. The scammers gallery has been closed down by CAF. Bill Cox also shut down my gallery because I questioned how they handle fraud like this. Caveat emptor.
That makes no sense. Why would they remove your gallery? You did nothing wrong in this transaction.
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Man that sucks...
This scam makes no sense to me. The credit card should get AJ his money back and hopefully grab the money back from the scammer. Seems like a lot of work trying to run off with money that you won't be able to keep for long. I guess it could have been worse if it was a bank account transaction, but anyway not saying that scammers are the brightest when it comes to making a quick buck. Unless I'm completely wrong and the credit card company has to eat the money then I guess it does work for the scammer.
Thanks for the heads up too. Luckily they have nothing I desire.
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At least she isn't facing the other way
That is until Frank Cho does an Outrage sketch cover parody
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I saw that and my head just hit the floor. Wow what a price!
My head hit the floor too. It looked something like this:
Yeah. I agree. Hell even Bill S was only asking $13k for his and it was painted. I do like J Scott Campbell but that is way high to be asking. Hell it makes me wonder how much Joe was quoted for his MLP piece his daughter convinced him to buy -
http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=1266409&GSub=98739
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I saw that and my head just hit the floor. Wow what a price!
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I'm of the same opinion. Hate the "make an offer" scenarios. I psych myself out way too much on those to even bother. Thankfully most people will kind of give you a starting point or even a range of consideration.
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This is one of those questions that really should be answered with "buy it only if you like it" and do not factor in any future resell possibilities since there is no way to predict how the price fluctuation will be on this series of covers. Too many variants, the material hasn't been released yet to gauge how good it will be, and of course what cover will end up standing out after the dust has settled.
As far as the prices set on the art from artists and art reps, a majority of the prices are guided by what the artist would like to generate from the work and usually balanced with the advice from their rep on what the market can bear. I believe artists still get final word on how they want the piece priced, like Romita Jr does with Spencer. I was looking at an interior from his Captain America run and was told (in my opinion) a high price for a new interior page and was informed Romita Jr didn't care if the pages sold so that is what he wanted for the piece. Of course that piece is no longer available, so for someone else the piece was not high priced. That always makes me wonder if enough people keep running out there putting down these high $$ figures for the work then doesn't that set what the price will be for these modern art pieces? I know, I know, before anyone jumps on it, that that is not true FMV, but that always get's me that it seems like we have to wait for someone to pay the fool prices of $2k and then wait for them to throw it in an auction and hope that it will go for the $500 we think it should. We always have to wait for someone else to pull that trigger so we may reap the reward later if we only buy on FMV.
What also doesn't help these prices on the DK III covers is the amount of people coming at the artist wanting it. It's now causing the "well what would you offer for it" scenarios. I don't know about you, but if I had 4 people asking me about a piece I own, I would be hard to just set a price and I would just say submit your offer and I'll consider it. I was speaking with Mark Brooks on his recent cover for Spider-Gwen and he stated that the cover was sold as soon as it was announced he was doing it. He was offered more money than he had ever before for a cover all before he put pencil to paper. With that kind of quickness and cash being offered it certainly makes it difficult to compete with securing a new modern piece that you would like to own at what most of us would consider a fair price. Of course these prices being set on the covers could end up hurting the selling of the pieces in the long run since everyone is going to want big money right out the gate. If the first issue lands with a resounding thud then these covers might even be harder to move at these price points.
As someone once told me, there's always plenty of other art out there that you can spend your money on and I couldn't agree more. Only go for these if you just absolutely love the homage the artist is doing because you are just gambling if you want to get more money out of these later and of course if you have the $$ to spend on these as well.
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I cannot recommend the Stevens Rocketeer enough. It is like holding the originals in your hand with that book.
I really like the look of The Spirit collection by Will Eisner that I picked up. This one is HUGE. It's 15x22.
And the other one I have is Mike Mignola's Hellboy in Hell. Now while it does have the 5 issue recent run it also has a great collection of Hellboy's early appearances, promo material and some short stories in it before Mike changed up his art style.
Also Mark Schultz's work is amazing so if you don't have the Xenozoic Tales collection from Flesk, give the AE edition a shot since it collects the later issues when his style really came to life.
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