MagicMasonry-migration

Wow, nice copy you have there Surgeon. Interesting that yours just says "statue of liberty cover". My copy is the newest one to be graded and it says "3rd appearance of Archie. Statue of Liberty cover". I wonder at what point they decided to change the notes? Honestly, I wish mine just said what yours says, then I wouldn't even need to go to all this trouble, I could simply describe my listing as the 2nd appearance based on all the proof there is.

Okay, so get this. I just read Pep 22-26, as well as Jackpot 4 and 5. Anyone who's read Pep 26 knows without a doubt that it's the 1st appearance of Veronica. But guess what? It has a cover date of April. Now, Veronica appears in Jackpot 5...which has a release date of March(Spring). So why is it that CGC and Overstreet recognize it here that despite having the later indicia date, Pep 26 is indeed the 1st appearance. Well obviously the answer is because it's undeniable that its her 1st app! So this should serve as admission that they recognize that Peps were coming out 2 months ahead! Clearly Pep 26 was on sale in February, then Jackpot 5 came out in March when Veronica was already established. Now why on earth don't they recognize this with Pep 23! This really grinds my gears... Also, as someone else mentioned, if you read the stories, it's pretty obvious that Pep 23 is the 2nd appearance based on the content, since it doesn't take place in high school or involve other high school characters. Once Pep 24 and Jackpot 4 came out, it was all high school related and the characters had obviously taken on a more focused direction.

Wow. Thanks for the info Mark. This is pretty important information for me since I'll be auctioning a 6.0 universal copy of pep 23 (3rd highest) in the august event auction on comicconnect (along with my #22 4.5!). I wonder if I can get this information to CGC and have them reslab my copy with the correct info. They've made mistakes before and changed them after learning the error of their ways. And since they've only graded 8 copies of pep 23, it's probably just a complete oversight. But that oversight could cost me thousands if it's the difference between a 3rd or 2nd appearance.

So, this is a rather old thread, but does anyone know if this information holds true? CGC still labels Pep 23 as the 3rd appearance of Archie, but they don't label Jackpot 4 (or any comic for that matter) as the 2nd appearance. Overstreet also doesn't take a stand as to which is the 2nd or 3rd. Any new info would be great.