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Care to explain? I'm legit curious. To me, the fight changed meaning cannon wise when it was later revealed that Superman was fighting Batman at the behest of Lex Luthor. It really lessened the impact for me. I'll drop you a PM but it's reflective of Franks personal and ideological views of the world.

Sorry, I'm not sure if you're understanding of widespread and mine are the same. It is literally creeping in from all sides and increasing in speed and intensity. And it's not going to stop. We are headed down a road that is not at all healthy or conducive to remember the past or building a healthy future. History has shown this over and over and the outcome is always the same.

The Dark Knight Returns and the battle between Superman and Batman take on a whole new meaning to me today that I didn't realize back in 1986

A lot of people don't know that this was what Creedence Cleartware Revival was called before they became CCR

I'm going to add this book for a short time. If anyone is interested, there won't be any discounts. This is the number. This book looks like a 9.6 even up close but has an invisible, small scrape that you can't see keeping the grade down. The defect is mid way down the spine, back cover just behind little Evil Knievel's rear tire. You'll never see it, even in hand. Asking price is $5000 shipping included.

OK, gang, Thread has been updated. This is what's left. Take 10% off remaining books Fantastic Four #145 CGC 9.8 OWW - Asking $450 shipping included Joe Palooka Fights His Way Back #nn CGC 9.8 OW - a CGC 9.8 from 1945! This is a giveaway - Asking $450 shipping included Captain Marvel #29 CGC 9.6 OWW - Asking $350 shipping included Daredevil #113 CGC 9.8 White (1st appearance of Death-Stalker) - Asking $500 shipping included SOLD! DC Comics Presents #26 CGC 9.8 White - Asking $1000 shipping included Eerie #1 CGC 5.5 White pages (1951) Avon - Asking $2500 shipping included Marvel Super-Heroes #12 CGC 8.0 OW - Asking $400 shipping included (looks much nicer) X-men #112 CGC 9.8 White - Asking $500 shipping included

Agreed. Most people don't realize this but there are many defects that if you focus on make the book look horrific when at arm's length, with normal vision it wouldn't move the needle. you' This is one of the concerns with grading. Some people have better than 20/20 vision and I think there is an eagle eyed grader or two at CGC that may affect the grading in a direction of being too tight at times. There are definitely some defects that just need to be ignored because at arms length, to the human eye they wouldn't even register. And this might be where software would be of benefit. You would get consistency, but you'd need to set a baseline where the program would see the book as a comic, at arms length, with 20/20 vision as our baseline. Also, scratches in gloss, while invisible to the naked eye at arms length would get factored into the grade on ultra high grade books. Lots of factors to consider.

Post some raws No.

That it's interesting goes without saying. I didn't read the whole thread but I personally wasn't dumping on it. I was sharing my experience with comic grading and why I don't think it will work. But hey, all power to him!

You can't grade a book from a 2 dimensional scan because grading a comic takes more than even 3 dimensions. Not only are you looking at obvious physical defects, you need to take into account defects at angles, interior defects (pages, staples), possible smell, weight of the book (missing pages), how it feels in hand (how a book feels is important in some cases), interior of the covers, smudges / stains / tanning / dust shadows and how deep all of those defects go in the paper. So much you can't see just from a 2 D scan. The best you may be able to do is grade some otherwise perfect 9.8 books with no interior defects down somewhere lower into the lower NM range by adjusting for a few small defects. Once you drop out of the NM range the amount of defects in grade go up exponentially and potentially include many more defects that go beyond just how the front and rear covers look.

It wasn’t until our very own forum detectives discovered the upgrading shenanigans that CGC adopted their “pressing isn’t restoration” policy. Yes, that was certainly a wild and raucous time on the boards when Dupchak, Masterchief, Red Hook, etc. posted those before and after scans to allow everybody to take a peek behind the kimono to see what was really taking place behind the scenes. Especially enlightening from the point of view that CGC claimed at the time that their grading standards was based on what had always been in place in the hobby, and yet this was at a time when pressing had always been widely acknowledged as a restoration activity up to that point in time. Yeah, clearly remember Borock eventually coming onto the boards to quell the anger of the mob by opening the pressing barn doors nice and wide through his declaration that pressing was really nothing more than "optimization of potential" and then proceeded to rewrite comic book history by incorrectly implying this was an activity that had always been done in the hobby. In reality, pressing at that time was an activity that had normally been done as only the final finishing step after other more invasive restoration activities had been performed on a book. The Great Pressing Wars on these boards were legendary. Probably the single greatest event to happen across the entire chat forum. There were emotions, physical threats, cliques. It was an insane time. Like all new things there was a lot of emotion that most people today would have not realize unless they lived through it. 15 years ago if you were pressing books you may as well have been OJ Simpson in some circles. @THE_BEYONDER I think it was always the policy to not count it as resto, it was just never publicly discussed - but from what I recall Marnin Rosenberg and Greg Buls (and possibly others) were pressing books in the 90's before there ever was a CGC @lou_fine It was publicly accepted as being the finishing product on a restored book but I think MANY people were trying to flatten books since the beginning of time. In reality, people just got more and more sophisticated with the technique. I had my 1st books pressed around 2004 or so. I think Matt did them when he was still in Texas. It wasn't a huge secret. In the earlier days of the internet news just didn't travel as quickly as it does today. But yeah, those mid 2000's were the Wild West on here.

You might say it's a Galactic bubble!

Scans uploaded. If you're interested in any books I'm easy to talk to!

That's it for now, folks!

X-men #134 CGC 9.8 White Asking $650 shipping included SOLD!

X-men #112 CGC 9.8 White Asking $500 shipping included

Marvel Super-Heroes #12 CGC 8.0 OW Asking $400 shipping included (looks much nicer)

DC Comics Presents #26 CGC 9.8 White Asking $1000 shipping included

Daredevil #113 CGC 9.8 White (1st appearance of Death-Stalker) Asking $500 shipping included SOLD!

Captain Marvel #29 CGC 9.6 OWW Asking $350 shipping included

Avengers Annual #3 CGC 9.8 OWW Asking $550 shipping included SOLD!

Amazing Spider-man #109 CGC 9.6 OW Asking $280 shipping included SOLD!

Amazing Spider-man #94 CGC 9.6 OWW Asking $575 shipping included SOLD!

Amazing Adventures #2 CGC 7.0 OWW (I previously graded this a raw 7.5 and still think it could grade that way) Asking $300 shipping included SOLD!

That seems to be the way these days! Scans and books being added now!