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Misogyny: dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women One can claim anything by editing the past and we see it happening in real time as dictionary meanings change words unilaterally to fit new ideas rather than CREATE NEW WORDS, but that doesn't make it correct or true. Considering you routinely edit your posts to change their meanings, sometimes days after when nobody even thinks to look anymore, I'm not surprised you'd support this. Oh well. As long as people are aware it's happening, that's all anyone can ask for.

He's not 'mai boy' Nobody finds the truth more offensive than people who can only hurl insults. And on here, you've condoned violence as a resolution in the past, you've told me I don't know how to raise my daughters (paraphrasing) and when I told my daughters the things you said about them they disagreed with you and you're now talking about his personal life. Nobody is patting anyone on the back. It's just a discussion and you are constantly turning up the heat unnecessarily.

Yep.

There will ALWAYS be people who will want to watch REAL people, eat REAL food, hold REAL paper and have REAL conversations. Fake things are bad for humanity no matter how profitable they are. The media will try to brainwash the masses into accepting fake things, but it will never eradicate it.

Gotcha. I won't derail this thread but I assume there's a Barbie thread here so I'll take this convo over there as I have some great discussion points to make.

I removed the word misogyny. Figured it was better for everyone involved. Sorry about that.

So fire the only guy who's ever done what he's done. The guy Warner Brothers has been searching for their own version of for almost two decades without success. I had high hopes that Geoff Johns would be that guy, but I was skeptical from the start--with good reason, it turned out. Creative types like him usually get frustrated with the business aspect of films after a while when they're relatively young like he was, so I wasn't at all surprised when he stepped down. They never fully gave him control anyway, so I'm still not sure who to blame that on. So, fire a one of one dude in Feige and replace him with...who? Ideally it will be a superfan without writing or art creds like Feige has always been. There was never any danger that Feige would go back to writing or drawing because he didn't have skill at that to even fall back on it like a Geoff Johns did. That's Kathleen Kennedy's problem--she's a stellar producer, but she is NOT a content curator, nor does she appear to have much of an instinct for how to curate content and Star Wars has suffered for it. I'm guessing Kennedy has never known who Figrin D'an is, and that's who they need curating their content--a superfan. Pablo Hidalgo and Dave Filoni are superfans, but both are also writers so they're not ideal candidates. They're still both the best candidates to have creative control over that content, but neither has really been given that control to date so who knows how they'd do. Some people are quick to eat their own. I agree with you. Feige, at this point is irreplaceable. If he was replaceable all the other MULTI BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATIONS WOULD HAVE HIRED HIS REPLACEMENT and would be rivalling Marvel. They haven't. Ockam's razor. Let me ask you: In a simple answer, what exactly do you think is the reason Feige is faltering so much after so much success? I grew up with a lot of pressure from too many sides, that I wasn't able to care for myself for a long time. From a rough upbringing through my parents, to getting married young (21) and having 4 children by the time I was 30. Then I had 20 years of being the sole provider, so it wasn't until I hit 50 that I decided to focus on myself and undo a lot of the things I didn't like about myself. Thankfully, I'm in a great place. It's similar to Zen for people who may understand that term better, but it's more about me realizing that every obstacle is just a lesson now.

Ironically, Fiege seems to operate like DC did in the Silver Age. The editor charts the course, the writer writes the story, the artist draws the story, the letterer puts in the words. The Auteur theory is more like the Stan Lee / Marvel way, where Stan sets a course but the creative director or the artist follows just a loose outline while conveying MOST of the message in much the same way the Russo Brothers do in their own flavor. Very interested and I never thought about it that way.

I think the general tone is that people are being called misogynists in this thread for not liking a female lead, when in fact they're not misogynists. But anyway, I don't want to go down that road with this discussion. I was simply trying to point out that nobody dislikes female leads in this thread from what I can see.

There's a trend of mis-using that word over the past decade or so. What 80% of people mean when they say "misogyny" is actually chauvinism. Actual misogynists are pretty rare, but people who have an obvious bias towards their own gender are plentiful. I agree 100%, but I believe I used it correctly in my post.

Your entire post is derogatory, personal, insulting and you are bringing in views that nobody has expressed WHILE insulting him. It's not OK and a post like this shouldn't be allowed. I've heard you talk about your "Long Island, Italian", mobster form of justice and it's THAT that I disapprove of. I've disagreed with you before on it and I will always disagree with you on it. You actually deserve a strike for this taunting post. It's not OK and I've lost a lot of respect for you because of it.

I have yet to see the movie but plan to. What do you mean by this?

It's either that, or this place is a Mecca for people who are unable to like anything. GOD BLESS... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) Openly calling people out for disliking females in lead roles is intentionally offensive and abrasive when in fact, many of us have already clearly suggested MANY movies we've loved, where powerful females were the leads. It's not that anyone dislikes a female lead, it's that by forcing people into roles the very people they are trying to elevate are being patronized and demeaned. By forcing observers to accept them. And to be more specific, I don't even think that's the case in this movie (I can't comment for sure because I haven't seen it), although it is pretty weird that every movie, show or television commercial now has to have an unnatural, cookie cutter, spread of minorities in every scene. It doesn't even happen like that in real life. Forcing minorities into roles JUST SO EVERYONE CAN BE REPRESENTED is like forcing people to like something. It'll have the opposite effect and they will start to hate it. It's parenting 101. By trying to stop the discussion, you escalate a lack of understanding and in turn escalate tension. The best way to integrate culture and underrepresented minorities is to openly discuss the topic and bring awareness around it. This is unequivocally proven through scientific and psychological literature. If anyone wants to see it, I can provide it. You want to make a show or a movie that appeals to women? Do it. Make it ALL about women. I thought the movie "What women want" with Mel Gibson and Helen Hunt was a funny and good flick, because it had great insights into how women think but it did it without being offensive. It got the point across elegantly. But forcing views is not only counterproductive, it's dangerous.

I gotta say, I am in love with her face. I have always had a soft spot for a woman with a nice strong facial structure and a square jaw and she is beautiful to me.

No, Dr.Love wrote that.

It's not a say so. I just think it's better for everyone to ignore what they don't like rather than gripe about it. It makes the world go round better and it's the entire reason there's an ignore feature. I have NO desire to take a thread out of the loop. The discussion has been about is how horrible the movie is, and this discussion was happening before I even got here. I am simply replying THE WAY I HAVE ALWAYS REPLIED ON THIS FORUM with my insights and opinions on why Disney is making the decisions they are. Sure I stray a bit, but it's not intentional. Like, when FF asked me if I was still on my high, I thought it was worth replying to. If you put me on ignore, you wouldn't have to see any of my replies and the thread would be as clean as you wanted it to be, while allowing others to engage as they please. Anyway, sorry you don't like discussions. I'm out. I genuinely wish you a good day.

While I might agree, this is no longer the place IMO. I know you're hurting. I'm hurting too. If ANYONE championed these things, it was me and that's no secret (40 strikes and a ban from the Watercooler for proof). I've committed to not do it here anymore for everyone's sake including my own. I've taken my points elsewhere where they'll be more effective. I would humbly suggest the same. You have made great points and I would hate if you couldn't do that anymore. Just offering advice as a friend.

That's what I was thinking as well.

The conversations in this thread have actually been fantastic, nuanced, inspiring and engaging. The fact that people are replying, agreeing, disagreeing respectfully and "liking" posts shows that engagement is positive. So far the only people that have complained are people who are constantly complaining. Some people have no interest in reading 1000 memes and would rather have proper, LONG FORM discussion. It's why I've had you on ignore since this place opened up and why I NEVER reply to you, out of respect for your right to say whatever you want. I made an exception this time because someone quoted you and I feel like your post is not only out of line, it's contentious and negative. If you actually took the time to read some of it, you'd see that every single post is totally on point with either the thread or answering a question someone asked. You might even learn something. I'm sorry if you don't like it but this isn't any single person's personal living room. It's the internet, so if someone is not interest in discussion just don't read it. It's what everyone else does to make this place a safe space for everyone. I have to say I am grateful that moderation allows such great conversation. If I wanted to read walls of memes, I'd be on Facebook. Have a nice day.

#netflix If you want to get technical, since 2020 was pushed ahead a year, everything was pushed ahead a year. And as FF and I were just discussing, it was both the pandemic AND the stalling to expire Fox's contracts that BOTH created a delay. The writer's strike was the 3rd blockage in the pipeline, so it's hard to say which one is most to blame for not having an FF or X-men movie in the works yet, but regardless, I think cutting their losses on the crepe they've been shoveling is the best thing they can do. The PROBLEM is that corporate structure is based on constant revenue and profits. For example, if you're a sole entity and had a good year but see that next year is going to be horrific, you can adjust and have a lean year. Smart people leave a much larger margin of error for things to go sideways. But corporations are run so lean (who wants cash sitting around?) and everyone MUST BE PAID their $10's of Millions for "doing a good job" that there is far less room for error. If you have a REALLY bad year, like Disney is having now, you can equate it to having a hole in the side of a ship. It's REALLY hard to find a way to stop bleeding when your reserves are getting used up and you need that revenue you've lost to bridge finance a year with a corporation because there are so many hungry hands reaching out to get paid. So I think Disney banked on the aggressive side and thought these "bridge finance" movies were going to be the bandaid, but they didn't realize how small the bandaid was and how big the gashed artery was.

I went in the complete opposite direction thanks to the US legalizing hemp in 2018. Funnily enough, I NEVER smoked weed for 50 years mainly because I hated the experience. Then at some point in April 2020, I had a friend going through a tough time with his girl and we hung out a bit one night and he kept pushing me to try it. I ended up taking a drag and it literally blew my mind. My world changed. I ended up having insights into myself and my relationship that I could never have had any other way. I still drank alcohol during this time but I didn't drink as heavy because I didn't want to fall into the trap of using booze out of boredom while being locked down. It was really the weed that was the motivator. I didn't smoke to get high, I smoked to learn about myself, about others, about how the world worked. I would quite literally get high and then just sit there every evening, because there was nothing else to do and confront myself with everything I could recall from my past and work through it. It was a fascinating exercise that changed my life and then in Dec 2021, I got a bit of a bug (THE bug, but it was very minor, I just lost my sense of taste, had a bit of a fever and just couldn't sleep for a couple of weeks) and once I felt better, I felt SO GOOD that I decided I was done with weed, booze and tobacco. Cold turkey, one shot. Since then, I've dabbled a bit here and there. I still would have a scotch to sip on with friends or a toke, but I've decided a while back that it just serves no purpose for me any longer other than to indulge so I stopped using altogether and I'm now straight edge and absolutely love it. I can be around anything and there's no temptation. I just don't want it anymore. The joy I get from life is so powerful that I refuse to cloud it with anything else. The side benefit of the work I did using the weed was that I managed to transfer those lessons over to when I'm sober, and am able to now use those lessons every day. I was afraid I wouldn't be able to and would need to continue to feel that way, but it worked. Pretty fascinating stuff. I am actually thinking about dabbling in Psychedelics to better heal past traumas, but I've never used a psychedelic and I'm moving slow with that one. I had a long winded reply posted elsewhere about my new high note, but the gist was this: In Jan 2020 I made a conscious decision never to have a bad day again after a lifetime of bad days. I made a promise to myself to turn every negative into a positive and that made all the difference in the world for me. I haven't had a bad day since. Really. Bad things happen, the pandemic happened 3 months after, I had a car catch fire, lost many friends and clients over my position on current events, but I can genuinely say every day is a great day and haven't had a bad days since Jan 1 2020. I didn't believe it was possible when people would tell me about this sort of polyynic stuff, but I'm now living it. You're on a similar, parallel path with your Zen journey, aren't you?

The single greatest silver bullet to most of the world's economic woes today, and probably the most helpful single thing that EVERY SINGLE PERSON can do to help society would be some self imposed austerity. Just lifting your foot off the gas by a hair changes everything. But you can't force that, you can only hope that the smart people do it without it being put into crayon for them. It would literally change the world.

Where you in Dallas last weekend?

I can think of a lot more people to fire than Fiege over revenue performance. Good. Sometimes you just have to cut your losses and move the heck on, whether you're a comic dealer or Disney. This bodes well for FF and X-men, WHICH EVERYONE HAS BEEN WAITING FOR!!!!!! Clean the slate and LET'S DO IT!!!!! I absolutely LOVE going to the movies. I wasn't allowed to go to a theater as a kid. My parents, being religious forbade it, so the 1st movie I ever saw was Tarzan: Lord of Greystoke in 1984. I was probably 13 at the time and my aunt, my mom's sister LITERALLY NEEDED TO SNEAK ME to the movies and I was not to tell my parents. She told them she was taking me shopping. Imaging the moral quandery for a 13 year old kid to hide something like that? Anyway, seeing a movie for the 1st time was like an awakening. I was smitten and fell in love and to this day, because I wasn't allowed to go, I've been drawn to it ever since and every time I walk into a theater I do so with child-like wonder and amazement, even 40 years later. The reason I don't go as often anymore is I don't like to patronize garbage content, and so I tend to go to smaller art houses and theaters where they curate much cooler movies. And I get the popcorn every time. It's a tradition.