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Not in relation to the piece referenced above...

In theory, the goal of posting a random piece on CAF or elsewhere (e.g. Facebook) is "sharing".  So does it matter if you could already see the art on HA.com ??

Technically HA.com is not for "sharing" and you can't leave comments but it is there for all to see.  On HA.com it's a free account (for now) and HA is not selling your info (for now).

So the owner gets to keep their collection private.

Of the three choices, I think it falls under "coolest", the comment I appreciate the most.

From Joe Jusko, re:Teen Titans 25 page 7 by Nick Cardy

These are ALL incredible pages! Cardy is by FAR my favorite DC artist! And yeah, he could DEFINITELY draw the ladies!

https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?Piece=177959

Based on recent events, is the page gonna be flipped for $5K ??

7 hours ago, batman_fan said:

 I didn’t realize he sold anything.  

He wasn't selling just to sell.  Not directly related to any specific art but in the FelixComicArt ( @Nexus ) podcast, I think Mandel mentioned that he was offsetting the cost of the DK splash. 

2 hours ago, Rick2you2 said:

Fine, Raboy and Eisner as nostalgia?  (Really good artists,however). 

I think it would depend on your age.  And, to me, the topic suggests that the artist/character combo and nostalgia influence the art you collect (or are trying to collect).  I did not list certain artist/character combos because I'm out of the market for the art (i.e. due to $$$) even if I like the comics.

For nostalgia, staying true to the topic...

Dillin - Justice League of America

Irv Novick - The Flash

Jim Aparo - The Brave & The Bold, Aquaman

Jose Luis Garcia-Lopez - Deadman, Superman, Batman appearances

Mike Nasser - Batman appearances (he only drew 2... well, 3 when you count Batman/Green Arrow : The Poison Tomorrow)

Mike Grell - Green Lantern / Green Arrow

... at least you're consistent...

1 hour ago, Pete Marino said:

Grab a copy of the book and look at the details of the published page, should line up exactly. 

Based on the notation in the last pic, the published version may have the "hope is not lost" balloon closer to the bottom margin.   Otherwise, I think it's the original art for that page.

You can also ask the inker, Doug Hazlewood.  He's on CAF:

https://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryDetail.asp?GCat=42533

Depending on the show, I'll use: a backpack with a waterproof rolltop pocket (enough for 11 x 17 art and foamcore)  or a hard sided artcase (~16 x 20) or a cheaper/lighter hard sided artcase (~11 x 17).

Kind of funny in the Hex/Jim Lee video that Jim Dolmayan pulls out an Fantastic Four 1 to promote a DC branded product.

If it could fit a 13 x 19 Itoya, that would be nice.  At $240 (special KS pricing), it's a lot more than any other backpack that Hex sells (MSRP).  It may be worth the $$$, it looks like this has more features than other Hex backpacks..  But most collectors already carry their art in portfolios that cost considerably less.  Artists might find it handy but they'll have to convert from whatever methods they've been using for years.
 

I think @artdealer could've made up his own mind and be satisfied.  So I'm wondering why @artdealer would ask.

5 hours ago, NelsonAI said:

You can use clear plastic "underbed" bins that they sell at stores like Home Depot, Lowes, Target, or Bed Bath & Beyond. 

And if you're still concerned, seal them with tape.

If it makes you feel better, his prelims are considerably less.  I just don't recall the pricing.  He still had some from Storms at Sea.

He recently had pieces from his Storms at Sea book (and other art) at a show.  $6,000 for finished (published, 11 x 14) pieces from Storms at Sea.  I'm not sure if there were others from SaS.  But they were also $6,000.  A few color pieces (or they had color) around 11 x 17 were over $10,000.  I remember one was $14,000.

I have a pretty good Mannion collection.  And a lot that is not on CAF.  I would not put any correlation between bidding and polling. I did not vote.  But if both pieces were offered to me at the same time and could only get one, I'd go with the inked version because I like the rendering.  On the other hand, I was a bidder on the pencil version and did not bid on the inked version.

Steve's pretty unique in that (all things being equal) he can do really tight or really loose pencils and end up with the inks being about the same (in a good way).

Here's a different example (both are in pencil, on 14 x 17, centered on my scanner):

The "darker" version is Steve's original pencils (lettering in ink) and I call it the prelim.  The "lighter" version has tighter pencils, especially the angel/devil on Brownhole's shoulders.  I bought the prelim version.  Later, Steve was playing around and drew the 2nd version.  I thought pretty hard about getting the 2nd version mainly because I just didn't want 2 of the same.  In the end, the 2nd version was so nice, the angel figure in particular.  One wasn't better than the other, they were both nice in their own way.  But obviously, one of them was first.

... and I don't have it but Steve actually did a 3rd version that was inked.

46 minutes ago, vodou said:

If I was already interested in that, the blue wouldn't change that.

Maybe it's part of the story but I'm more distracted by how flat (except for his head) Spidey looks.

Instead of crapping on specific inkers or penciller / inker combinations, I'll just mention a few favorite and / or off-beat combinations that I DO like.

• D ick Dillin inked by Sid Greene (JLA) - Dillin's dark pencils lightened up by Greene
• Don Newton inked by Kurt Schaffenberger (Shazam !) - Schaffenberger because... reasons.
• John Byrne inked by Jose Luis Garcia Lopez (New Teen Titans Annual 2) - 2 masters at work
• Don Newton inking himself - just a rarity once he left Charlton Comics.
• Don Newton inked by Alfredo Alcala (Batman) - moody pencils and stylized inks
• Curt Swan inked by Bob Oksner (70's Superman) - I'm not really into 70's Curt Swan but Oksner made him look really good without totally dominating the pencils.

In general the inker was an accomplished artist on their own but usually did not play the role of the inker.

12 minutes ago, Skizz said:

I figured it I could impress her by introducing her to the low brow, backstreet style of art of comic art, the one type of art she knew nothing about. It would be like taking a gourmet chef to a food truck that has the best food in town. 

So... was she impressed ??

No matter how much of the available art doesn't appeal to me, there's enough art that keeps my interest.

In recent years, a lot of art I never thought of acquiring (or wasn't on the market) has popped up.

I'll be honest.  If there's one thing that will make you focus your interests, it's the cost. 

A young teen, the first time I saw (and became aware of) original art was at a NY convention.  Someone had the Action Comics 419 cover (Neal Adams / Murphy Anderson, Superman up flying at you, see: https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=464156 ) and Flash 223 (Nick Cardy, Flash racing on land, water and air) on the wall.  Just couldn't miss it.  You had to go past that display to get to another room.  Obviously I noticed it but I don't recall being awed.  It would be a few more years before I got my first piece (convention sketch)

This thread is kind of related to this one:

tldr... I filed complaints with USPS.  And it seems independently of that, my item did show up.  Whoever received the item seems to have returned it to USPS.

An update... and the conclusion...

I filed a "find my missing mail" request on usps.com.  I could not find a link on usps.com to file a formal mail theft report with the US Postal Inspector.  But if you google "united states postal inspector", you'll find their website.  From there you can click through and you find yourself back on usps.com.  Anyway, I filled in the pertinent information to report mail theft.  

Within a week, I received an e-mail asking to rate their response.  Since I hadn't received any responses or acknowledgements, I assumed it was spam.  A week later, I received another e-mail to rate their response. Even though still I hadn't received a response. 

I discovered the e-mails were related to my "find my missing mail" request, not the mail theft report.

So I figure, if they wanted a review I might as well give them one.  It was a negative one.  On a scale of 1 to 5, it was 1.  To explain the ranking, I indicated that they wanted me to rate their response but they had not even responded.

As mentioned above, my item was a blank sketch cover.  I didn't mention that it was an ebay purchase.  So far, the ebay seller was great (e.g responding to my e-mails and doing legwork on her side, going to her local Post Office).  Even though I hadn't received my item, I posted positive feedback.

A couple days after giving USPS my negative review, I got an "insufficient search request data" email from USPS.  They wanted to know the size of the package, if the item was packed loosely, if the label was printed or handwritten.

Since I didn't have that information, I had to ask the ebay seller.  So I followed up with the seller again.  Basically, she decided it wasn't worth the hassle to keep responding to me and even though she was not required to, she refunded my payment.  I responded that I appreciated the refund but I'd still continue to followup with USPS.  

So I didn't get any more info from the seller but I did provide additional data, the rough dimensions of a package for a comic book.  And I mentioned my case number from the report to the US Postal Inspector.  

About a week and half later, I'm picking up packages from the Post Office.  I'm counting the items and there seems to be an extra one.  It turns out, I got the sketch cover.  The package was opened but then taped shut.  I guess, somehow, someone was given my item (by accident ?).  And finally got around to giving it back (or whatever) to the Post Office.

Still, no response from the US Postal Inspector.  I updated the "missing mail" report to indicate the item was finally delivered.  If my item was given away at the Post Office, maybe the Postal Inspector haven't gotten around to looking at the video.  If my item was delivered by a mail carrier, that was definitely a big mistake.  I figure the Postal Inspector is spending their energies on fentanyl smuggling.  

For some weird reason, PayPal no longer reports my payment or the refund.  Maybe because both transactions occurred within a 1 month period.  Keeping with ebay's policies, I don't have the seller's e-mail address.  I'm not going to contact her through ebay but since I have her physical address, I'll just send her a check for the comic.

The Post Office by my mother has a sign that says they check IDs, I haven't noticed a similar sign at my Post Office.  Anyway, I'll keep blocking the window in my PO Box so noone can tell if I have a yellow card.  My Post Office still does not ask for my ID when picking up packages.  

Where's a "jump the shark" emoji when you really need one.

Even the title of the topic has changed.

On 4/26/2019 at 10:43 AM, Timely said:

How do we combat this craziness?  Is it even possible?  Does this type of "wild west" pricing scare away potential collectors & investors?  I know it's got me worried!

Everyone is biased based on their own taste/appreciation and nostalgia vs the market.

Putting aside the addictive nature of the hobby, in the end this is a hobby.  In general, owning art is also a luxury.  If you want to take a moral stance against pricing that doesn't agree with you, you have no choice but to not buy the art.  Actually, that's a good idea... maybe I should stop buying art..

I've never worked with it.  But I have a piece that was worked on.  The results were pretty good.  I suggest you look at Dura-Lar.  I think the main advantage for your purposes is that it has a workable surface.

I recommend the clear Dura-Lar.  The matte Dura-Lar has a slight frosted look to it.

https://www.grafixarts.com/products/dura-lar-film/

I think you get the classic stamp on the back of your hand.

The Gold Ballroom is out of the way.  The elevator is kind of out of the way.  When you get up there, you can't possibly get lost.  But you could get killed and it's possible noone would find your body until the next NYC Comic Art Expo.