90sChild

Anybody on here win this? I always wanted a 9.0-9.4ish copy, but wasn't willing to get too crazy about it. 9.8 brings a bit too much for me. One of the reasons I've enjoyed buying magazines so much lately is the absence of movie/show price driven speculating but it is hard to escape with all these sideshows. I guess Gabriel has been cast into that new Hulu show as "Gabriela" and will probably end up with 5 minutes of screen time per episode. Just guessing but sounds unfortunate! Would have loved to see a modern take on a demon hunter / exorcist and have a self-titled show. They could have used that to introduce more of the dark marvel stuff but they are skipping right into it with the Helstrom show. Only 4 census copies so I'm sure someone's happy. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Haunt-Of-Horror-2-CGC-9-8-NM-Mint-Marvel-First-Appearance-Gabriel-Helstrom-Satan-/124363035179

I just see it as another opportunity to drive up prices by speculators. You could make a case that books are harder to keep in good shape when they are sitting on a newsstand but frankly I'm not buying it, certainly not as recent as 80's and 90's. It was well within the comic speculation bubble of the 90's where anyone and everyone had already been buying books to store away as investments.

I started getting weird payment errors too. There's an error 99 code when you try to complete checkout. I had to call multiple times to get it fixed, one customer service guy said the problem is trying to pay for your auction wins via cart. He said you can't do that instead go into your messages or email and click pay now on the invoice instead. That did actually fix the problem for me.

Three new black cover Skywalds, at $90 I think I did ok not amazing. The more popular covers were getting $60-100 a piece and it just didn't feel like great value to spend that. Also added two vf/nm vampire tales, I have more than half of them now in 9.0 so I guess this means I'm required to finish the set.

I'd love some insight on this as well. I'm also curious how various magazines' print runs compare to eachother. Warren vs Curtis for example. Did Marvel jumping on the mag bandwagon mean an increase in printing or were they still not as big as some of the originators.

Yeah I'm just not sure how much. I feel like I've seen those kind of corners on 9.4, 9.2, 9.0 books before so it seems fairly random to me.

Few pickups from the boards, and a Creepy #7 ebay 9.0 that might be undergraded?... you be the judge I'll post scans below.

Let's hope that isn't reflected in your October sales thread this year But really I would have to guess we're seeing these high VF prices because people are frustrated they just can't find nicer copies. Maybe some of the people who spend more time browsing in the mags forum can speculate but my guess is the VF/NM or better ones just don't get circulated among collectors anymore, they seem to be stashed away in collections and never brought up for sale.

I didn't win this but, how much pedigree do people give to the OAKLAND pedigree? It was sold by the Berkbridge people so maybe that had something to do with the price. https://www.ebay.com/itm/DOCTOR-STRANGE-180-CGC-9-6-PEDIGREE-3rd-ETERNITY-SEE-OUR-STRANGE-TALES-138/284002809877 gocollect on this is $270 https://comics.gocollect.com/guide/view/129166

Vampire Tales 8 - 8.0 OWW $45 Dracula Lives 2 - 7.0 OW $12 TAKE

Seems a bit odd considering the following. Probably somebody here saw your post and did you a favor.

Doubtful when the lawyers probably tell them otherwise.

I'm not sure if that would be enough but I've never tried a case so who knows. You can manipulate digital time stamps by modifying the picture file or removing the EXIF data. You could just take a picture in 2019 and wait until 2020 to upload it so that date doesn't help either. I'll start the comic grading submission notarizing business if anyone wants in.

Not a lawyer here but wouldn't you have to prove the date of when the photos were taken anyway? Even a timestamp? Taken at the exact moment before going into the mail? Is it going to get to a point where we need a third party notarized letter with dated and timestamped pictures showing the condition a book as it leaves to go directly into the mail? If I had an AF15 I would probably have 20 pictures of it, and I bet none of them could prove when they were taken.

I have no problem putting the blame on ebay, because it benefits them to run their platform this way. They took several steps that has allowed this to snowball over the past 20 years I've been on there. The first and most obvious was removing all fees to create listings, now they offer something like 200 free listings a month, every month. Certain types of add-on's have cost but the important ones like high fixed starting prices and high buy it now prices do not. The more open listings ebay has sitting on it's website the more traffic they are going to pull in through external ads or whatever methods they use. Bottom line they get more listings and don't care if stuff sits there, neither do the sellers. Sellers will gladly take their free listings with no fees and relist the same book over and over again for years on end. Sellers had real incentive to actually sell the items they listed when it costed them money. If I was running a comic store with overhead costs, do you think I would waste an entire wall's worth of space that had astronomical prices I knew nobody was going to buy anything? Well most likely no because that would be money out of my pockets as square footage I have to pay for retail space. When you do this on ebay however with your 200 free listings per month you are doing essentially just that. There's no overhead and no expense to just putting up a wall of crazy prices and letting it sit there forever. You can argue that's one benefit of the internet, and to what end will this continue? Eventually everyone, everywhere will be able to do something similar be it creating their own website for $10 a month or whatever. eBay has made it so that I now have 200 items worth of free internet wallspace with zero cost to me.

Ahh yeah I see that video now. Looks like they will be available for preorder in december.

where are you preordering from that has april 2021 dates? I've not even heard of anything being announced that far out at least through the diamond previews catalog. DCBS does not have them either. https://www.dcbservice.com/products/marvel-comics/4/2

Yeah just wait til' they try to go BIG DATA and charge for the information like everyone else. Hell, that worthpoint website has been making a business out of archiving ebay prices and charging for it for decades.

how is GPA scraping the actual sale price when there's no way for us normal people to see it?

Goes both ways. As a seller you get $1175 on comiclink which means you only see $1057 back. That's why it sat for 2 months before selling.

Yeah it was funny how that had a history of being a $250-300 book in 9.8 then everyone started listing copies at $800 haha. Moderns are overrated. I believe the percentage is just a reflection of that past year's activity.

Or, from another view, Since this is a free market economy after all, Perhaps they are taking advantage of people who are now suddenly willing to spend 10x as much for an autograph of someone that has passed that they didn't think twice about buying for 10% of the price just a week before hand. I'm not for exploiting anyone's death, but it seems more like the people who are buying autographs at inflated prices are the ones being exploited.

Didn't work for me either, nearly 20 year old account.

There's a bunch that won't come down in price until they are reprinted... all the silver age stuff like Hulk, X-Men, Iron Man, Thor for starters. ASM Vol 3 DM is selling for $400 pretty consistently. Then there's some modern stuff like War of Kings, Hickman's Fantastic Four 1 & 2, Brubaker's Captain America 1-5 with Death of Cap & Cap Lives being the crazy ones. #1 gets reprinted next year so I don't see why they wouldn't follow up reprinting #2-4 but who knows. I'm not saying jump on once a book is out of print, you're better off just waiting til' they get reprinted. Marvel has done a ton of reprints of stuff this year and next and the community of hardcover collectors seems to have the ear of marvel now.

Based on what I read on the first page of this thread, the idea for the scammer is not to let the item end but to get contact information and do the deal off ebay outside of goods & services protection. If someone buys it the normal way, pays using goods & services their odds of a refund are much higher. With that said though, I don't get how there's no recourse to track the stolen money if someone does rip you off through friends & family. If the amount was high enough they could even be looking at felony theft. They need to transfer the money out of their bogus paypal and get it into a legit bank somewhere but how are these people transferring everything around without leaving a trace? I can't imagine these are master embezzlers if they are low enough to be scamming for comics on ebay.