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It was a bit of sarcasm but I can see why it looks like it was not, haha. After all on comiclink you get the benefit of dealing with a consignor so that alone is worth paying a premium for to many. Congrats to the buyer and seller.

Bunch of suckers are buying books on comiclink apparently, why only net $11k on comiclink after -10% fee when you can sell on the boards with no fee and at a new all time high.

V1 & V3 have not been announced but I would expect them to come back soon. Stern was announced for 2021 but not solicited yet.

I think the incentive is not getting negative feedback over a minor dispute, especially if he has a 100% feedback he's been protecting for years. Not worth ruining over $50.

I think he's trying to say a 75 cent UK edition is worth up to $2000 so he's giving you a deal on a book that is clearly "about 9.8" torn off corner and all.

Yeah I noticed that as well... silver seems undervalued compared to copper or bronze which is just fine with me. Most of the speculation coming into copper and even modern books seems very short sighted to me and is based only on the movie speculation train we've seen over the past 10-15 years. It is a simple supply and demand equation and yet nobody is paying attention to just how much supply there is of 9.8 copper and modern books. I'd take a 8.5 or 9.0 silver over a 9.8 modern any day and will continue to do so as I only add silver books to the collection. Last book I bought was a FF#28 8.5, looking at the census counting all the 8.5 copies there are still less than 200 total graded. It sells for roughly what a CGC 9.6 ultimate fallout #4 would get. Nearly 2000 9.8's and 1500 9.6's on the census for the book, but as we all know, the 1st miles book will continue to climb higher and higher in price despite those numbers, and I have zero doubt it will outperform my FF#28 over the next few years. That didn't stop me from buying it though, I'm sticking with the rarity side of the equation.

I think it has to do with people being bored out of their minds, spending more time working from home and thus spending more time on the computer procrastinating, and also a bit of fear which resulted in subconscious hoarding mentality similar to what we saw with toilet paper back in the early covid panic. Those of us who are collectors release our hoarding urge on whatever it is we focus collecting. I went the opposite direction and sold a bunch. I think it is a bit funny my sales thread that was posted near the bottom of the crash has prices today that would make people angry. I had a ton of books that went unsold and a few others that sold for 30-50% more not much afterwards.

Was curious so I had to look on comiclink.. there's a 9.6 currently at $1000 above blue label 9.6 prices. https://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2FAUCTIONS%2FSEARCH.ASP%3FFocusedOnly%3D1%26where%3Dauctions%26title%3Dromita%26ItemType%3DCB%23Item_1421679&id=1421679&itemType=0

All I can say is I definitely prefer that cover and probably would have bought one a long time ago if that was what they used.

They probably don't have the time to do it, and it only worked on old style cases with the slot in the side. Perhaps they just send books back to CGC that have it or they scan it in a way it doesn't show up as much.

Remember the days when you could fix it yourself with a piece of paper?

I'm not saying that it does either, but that is the graders call. They can't even clearly define to us consumers what is considered production error.

Perhaps the color rub on the left spine and chipping/light creasing on the right edge was considered a manufacturing flaw and thus ignored by CGC? CGC is very vague about what is and is not manufacturing flaws, and I've sent plenty of dog-ear corner tears where those are ignored as well because it is considered manufacturing bindery tear.

I wouldn't define that as a Ponzi scheme but it has a similar effect, you see this same problem exists in any collectable investment wether it is through partial ownership or people buying the book for themselves. Buyers buy an equity over and over and sell it off to the next person. Here's a fun example, all the people who paid $400 for the 1st Miles Morales flipped it to people willing to pay $600-800 for it, now all those buyers are trying to get $1000-1200 for it. 3-4 years from now all those dummies who paid $1000-1200 will be selling it for $1600-2000. With every passing year I find myself on the sidelines more and more. In stock investing this would be extremely apparent as represented by FALLING volume as prices increase as you can see with my arrow below. Nobody is analyzing sales volume when it comes to comic sales though. After the 1st Miles 9.8 sold over $800 on ebay to ONE BUYER literally everyone in the country now thought their book was worth $800. Since you can't short sell a comic book, the price can sit there in fixed listings forever until another sells. This gives the appearance of high demand. if there were 500 copies changing hands at a price of $400 and then only 50 copies changing hands at $1200 that is a red flag but again nobody cares about analyzing sales volume in collectibles.

Yeah X-Men has always done well and I'm not saying they won't continue to do well especially as they are introduced into the MCU but I'm not sure how people that were collecting for the past 20+ years didn't know about all these common first appearance books already from the bronze and copper age. Perhaps there really just are that many new collectors, who knows. Prices are silly even in corona times, back in march it took me a month to sell a CGC 9.8 1st Mr Sinister SS Label with Claremont and Silvestri autos for like $240, I basically broke even after holding it for two years. Now a blue label with no signatures that book is going for $300. So what happened from March to today that wasn't happening from 2018 to 3/2020? There's some kind of panic buying going on that isn't rational, now is not the time to buy. We could change the title of this thread from secret wars #8 to "all bronze age and copper age 1st appearances" and it would still ring true. As for Dr Strange books I've noticed some small increases over the years, many of the 9.4 silver age books I got around $120-$150 seem to go around $200 now so on a percentage basis 20-30% gain is not too bad. The #169 in 9.4 went from $900-1000 to $1200 over the past 3-4 years so pretty similar there too. You also have to remember none of those silver age books are first appearances, only the strange tales #110. The majority of the crazy gains in prices always favors the 1st apps, even if those books are super common bronze age or copper age as we've seen recently.

There's a lot of youtube channels telling people what "big keys" to invest in, and this is such a common book I assume it would be on nearly every list out there. Most people fail to realize though how incredibly common some of these copper age books are. If someone has GPA data on this book it would be fun to go back and look at how long the price was stagnant for years and years never going up. 9.6 was always $100 and 9.8 always around $180-200. I think there's a new generation of either investors or speculators who think this is easy money, and also don't realize how "NOT OLD" and common the books are. In the end it doesn't matter though if they are able to force prices higher, I just know I'm sticking to silver age. nearly 100k subscribers and 30k views, nothing to sneeze at. Most people who look for this kind of information may not really have any clue on price history and how little these books should move in price over the long-term.

$30 for some bent cardboard, how hard would it really be to just get flat cardboard in the correct dimensions and bend it out yourself? What source would sell that size of a single piece cardboard? "Exterior Dimensions are : 15 3/4" Long x 10 1/4" Wide x 15" tallInterior Dimensions are : 15 1/2" Long x 10" Wide x 14 3/8" tall"

I'm assuming there was more than one made too.. I've seen these color keys listed over and over ad nauseam on ebay so I'm not sure that I would automatically assume they are rare which means valuable. That would at least explain the cheap prices I tend to see.

The longer you do this the more you'll realize high price doesn't mean important book. You think they would be relative but not always. There are people who will continue to buy any key at any price until a movie is announced, regardless of how crazy the prices get. The best time to sell is always a month or two before the movie comes out. In this case, I don't know if he ever gets a solo movie, but maybe speculation is on doctor strange 2 or a disney series? If that is the case you have another year or so. Just my opinion though, there's no guarantee disney follows through with any of these rumors, there are so many rumors about characters I stopped paying attention.

You ignored a response to the other half of my post, and it seems like you are digging a deeper hole for yourself by not just addressing it. So I'll just repost it again so we're clear. Have you bothered to contact the persons who bought the books to let them know about the extenuating circumstances of the label not being purple? Are you hoping it goes into their collection and they just never notice? If they don't want a restored book they will certainly notice eventually. Maybe, like you, they just don't care what CGC thinks is restored or isn't restored? In that case it works out for both of you! You know how to solve all those problems? Just ask the buyer if they are aware. Disclose the error. If they aren't bothered, great. If they didn't notice and want to return the item, then you just saved yourself more problems down the road.

This thread was created to draw attention to multiple issues; 1. Buyers paying blue label prices on restored books. 2. CGC using the wrong labels which has apparently been ongoing for longer than I expected. It isn't about seller shaming, but if you are defending yourself by saying your guidelines for restoration differ than CGC's why use their services at all? That's what you pay them for, third party review. I am curious if you will bother to contact the buyers and let them know to read the label carefully before shipping the item out. I personally would not want to be eating the refund shipping and listing expense which would be over $300 per book. That is more than enough motivation for me to fully disclose what I am selling but we all have different risk tolerance I guess.

I wouldn't jump all over the seller for being at fault, I mean he could have mentioned restored in the title but did not. Buyer beware and do your own due diligence, I know I didn't bid on it, but maybe if I just had a cell phone and wasn't looking at pictures of every single item I watched I can see how easily buyers miss it. CGC is the one that is putting the reputation of their services out there with the mistakes here.

Sounds like that would be the ideal way to do it. But CGC customers who receive back these errors are not likely to send it back for a purple, especially if slab buyers don't notice and pay 100% of GPA blue label universal price.

Watched these two books sell earlier today for CGC Universal prices, and at first glance you might think sure why not. But they have restoration notes written on the label, with no purple label. We've seen this kind of thing in the past but just because they ran out of purple labels for their fancy new characters doesn't exactly make it excusable. Buyers and sellers are both going to be in for a rude surprise when the books get returned. I wonder if people even look at the pictures of what they're bidding on or if this was just auctions bid on by automated bot buying accounts. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Amazing-Spider-Man-14-CGC-7-0-OW-W-Marvel-1964-1st-Green-Goblin-/224089232960 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Amazing-Spider-Man-9-CGC-8-5-OW-W-Marvel-1964-1st-Electro-/224089236480

A car isn't really purporting to be share or percentage of an investment equity is it