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My 6/14 CCS orders just went into process 2/10/2022 so yours should begin in theory within a week or two….. in theory of course.

So those other miserable sobs like me don’t feel so alone lol. Maybe May or June the waves of ccs will start making it back to me? I have about 200 more in normal/fast track from Impressive Comics pressing obviously using outside pressers is about 6 months faster then CCS at this point, however anyone else notice that CCS pressed books seem to get weird grade bumps? I had a Ms. Marvel 18 come back 9.8 and I would have sworn 9.4, but a bunch of modern stuff is coming back 9.4-9.6 with no noticeable issue and no notes if using outside pressers….. Really wish we had a more reliable grading rubric at CGC and some competitive competition for service…. anyways back to my bridge to troll for a few more months…

I’m in

If I were to guess the moderns are being screened by the new hires so random line jumps would be maybe easy books to grade? the eco+ tiers are likely going to the more experienced graders in “hopes” that less errors or super incorrect grading takes place. When the vast majority of modern is 9.0 or better before being looked at gives the newbs time to get familiar with the process. Again just a guess.

I gave up holding my breath long ago…. wont ever use ccs again not when better pressers are available and are free inside of 4 months for a stack ….. at most often half the cost to boot. on plus one day waves of books should make it back to me lol.

Then you also are an amazing person Once u own a bully your hooked for life.

My experience is that they do not stack. my past orders through pressing took forever to be pressed. Once charged for pressing seems they are actually pressed within 4 weeks. Then sent for grading which again happens to be within 4 weeks to get books back. The going from received to pressing and charge seems to be at over 4 months atm figuring they will get to June orders sometime late November so those might make it home January. That’s unless something changes on their side.

Second this post as it is the same boat I am in only at 300 books to be mailed back in waves sometime in November CGC gods willing. Once that starts unload all that marvel goodness that has just gone way up since even being submitted and keep buying silver/gold DC keys…. if all goes per plan tax return season will be a healthy one for me and sounds like you as well lol.

Been selling on hipcomics as well as eBay and the staff over there are super friendly. A lot lower fees as well.

My daughter got her first rat catcher app from ya all. We were the Batgirl and Flash in steampunk on Saturday

I personally, unless it’s a glaring defect like a post broke or a large scratch/scuff on the shell center cover area won’t mention small scuff stuff to a case. Reason being is 80% the books shipped back from CGC have small scuffs anymore so outside of making it hard to display with a scuff what’s the point? If in shipping a post breaks due to mishandling or something like that I wouldn’t have a problem refunding the buyer the reshell price for CGC. But if they want to return it for a scuff obviously eBay favors the sellers. I just contact eBay about the return being identical to purchase and the buyer had buyers remorse (eBay rule term must be said)and eBay flags them refunds me shipping in the form of eBay credit and I block the buyer. It’s a hassle but it’s the work around to where buyers can’t hose us on shipping of cold feet purchases. Also if you don’t offer returns then any negative left about a return can be removed from your feedback under eBay rules since it’s not something you do but are forced to under buyer protections. Let’s be honest as a Topseller with a dumb medal next to my name I don’t think many people even care about returns on comics unless they plan on doing a return for bogus reasons anyways. So why even offer it?

In order to return the item eBay won’t refund it until you receive it in like condition. If it’s in any condition different contact their support I have had this as well. You have 2 options one being you keep the item and say well it’s now worth this per comparable sand I also want my shipping fees back and they deduct all that from the money before issuing their return. Or it’s ruined as silly as this sounds you submit a fraud with a local sherif and get a case number etc. Doesn’t matter it’s out of country. eBay will want their copy then issue you all the money ban the buyer and the next time the buyer tries to visit the US they get arrested for the fraud case. Trust me it’s a lot of work but the thought of some clown trying to go on holiday after trying to rip you off spending a day in a cell and extradited home is kinda funny.

Ccs you have to send it in they will look it over and tell you if they can remove it and all that and a price. Once done it’s sent to grading and gets blue label. My experience and that of others is that almost all comics with slight color are viable candidates for removal. it’s a listed option when filling out a submission.

If this is an eBay sale do not refund them take the small ding by having eBay force a refund from you. I had a Canadian buyer do similar to me and cost me 2k as they scammed a “damaged package” Canadian post takes 90 days to get back obviously eBay gives 30 days I called multiple times and they told me do this and that…. When it came time and Canadian post said yeah buyer is lying eBay was like ops you refunded them sorry our support was wrong you needed us to force the refund then your protected. lesson I learned on eBay is never ship international outside of eBay international program. As when they broke off PayPal they killed a lot of seller protections for sellers using any post not eBay.. go figure right. If this is a private selling and PayPal was used force PayPal to take the money do not refund willingly give it. Once it ships and is delivered to back to visa/PayPal etc with the proof it’s delivered no issues and force a payment which they will do. Hope that helps if you didn’t already know it.

Ruins the value compared to blue label. The restoration is small color touch I would send it back into get the color removed a 6.0 Blue label will be worth at a min double and be faarrrrrr more easier to sell.

Grade matters then artist sig rarity and if they are dead. Carmine Infantino Stan Lee Both to me as a collector and many add value. Stan signed a ton more books so for me maybe 50$ increase as a DC Boy Infantino signed a lot less and has been gone longer so worth few hundred on right books. The signature series is a smaller group then the unsigned buyers group. I don’t mind getting a signed book if it’s the same price as a unsigned of same grade. My favorite is the Adam Hughes signed series where it looks like a misprint of the AH lol. Getting a book signed by a lesser known artist/writer doesn’t do a whole lot for a book. Think of it like celebrities You have A listers and B,C,D and that plays a huge roll on collectibility.

The problem I just noticed on mine I just received was the same. I think CCS has some of the new guys pressing stuff now. I had a Uncanny X-Men 266 that was 9.8 all day and came back 9.6 with a miss press at the top causing top right fanning. Had a few others slightly lower grade that looks like below average pressing. Kinda glad my other books weren’t FT let them learn more on other peoples stuff before doing more of mine. I will be resending some of the bigger books that a professional presser should be able to correct the mis-press issues and resubmit to CGC or maybe the other guys based on Turn around when I get more then the 2 I have now needing it. On the grading side I really think there is a huge disparity happening. It seems Bronze to Modern are being graded on a 9.8-0 scale not the 10-0 scale. But older books or even pedigrees (looking at you Promise) are getting insanely soft or high grades that would not fly at all for any of my newer stuff. I had a 9.8 come back that as 9.8 is now a 3k book and it has a small manufacturing tear on top right corner near binding and I was like 9.6 all day but got 9.8…… Keeping the book but still come on man …Had a ASM 300 come back 9.2 and 5 other guys are like no way it’s less then 9.6, but the best was the yellow label signature series for the book with no signature….I had been warned they grade especially hard on ASM 300 (aren’t they supposed to with all book period.) But grading it so hard they are seeing invisible signatures is new.

Glad it worked out for you and the package showed up. My experience is and has been always a roller coaster with USPS. Covid didn’t help it at all. I have had so many packages left with other people at neighbors, left on the delivery truck by mistake, sent backwards as mailed delivery instead of dropped off. Here is what everyone should do. Now days a camera door bell is relatively in expensive, I put that one and one above my garage and believe it or not it deters almost all package thief’s and also gives you another form of proof in a he said she said situation. Get the number to the local delivery office postmaster. The second your “tracking” shows delivered and your like wtf it’s not there, call them and they will in turn contact the driver and more often then not get the package delivered correctly* within an hour. If the package arrives destroyed or damaged take pictures of the package prior to opening (very important) with damage shown. You then have 2 options. 1) take to post and just return to sender for a refund. 2) open it and see if books survived the crushing and drop kicking. The pictures will be enough for the insurance claim process at USPS. Remember the seller wants you to get your book, 100% of lost packages is not their fault. Maybe 10% of damaged items is their fault if they don’t package correctly but let’s be honest every book I buy seems to be wrapped up better then Houdini on his final trick. Which takes careful unwrapping to not damage the book on opening lol. Anyways again glad it was all sorted and again these are the suggestions I use myself and I deal with about 200k usd in books a year moving in and out of my collection.

100% this i do the same you can get 2 nice units from Amazon (use star rating) and keep your home 40-50% all day everyday at a max. I live in Texas and this has saved my collectables which value in the 100kusd realm. 300$ to keep 100k amazing easy yes.

I’m in your boat with a 17 modern FT press/grade lol. because of the Turn around times and fees after this group it’s all slow normal on out and my big value books go to Gary K at impressive for pressing because guy is the best and obviously doesn’t take 7 months to press…

Looks like a clean and press would make this clean up a ton. I don’t see any “noticeable” foxing that would red flag the book to me. Foxing is organic in nature and in ancient texts a laser system is being used by universities/museums to restore/preserve old paper. I have not found anything online to say anything with regards to newer papers and comics as the places with said multi 100k laser are busy saving actual historical documents not people’s investment comics ;). That being said they have had a lot of luck with specific frequencies taking and quiet literally destroying the organic foxing and leaving no marks or eveidence of work done or the foxing having been there. Maybe within the next decade that solution to the problem will make it to the public and it will cause a giant revolver mess like cleaning and pressing. Heck I have a 7.5 WP Action 252 that is likely 9.4 or better if the foxing was removed. There are so many comics out there that if foxing was eliminated they would jump 1 or more full points causing a massive disruption to what’s out there and values.

It definitely is a gimmick that the turn around time we pay for or even the Fast Track doesn’t begin until it’s “officially” received. Before the price change rush it was about 25-30 business days tell “Received” might get longer. I would love to complain at CGC but even the top comic pressers I know and use are back logged just as far back. Now would be the time to become a reputable pressing company lol.

Very very long time lurker. Have used much of you all’s information for years. Disabled Vet, who has been collecting comics off and on for 3+ decades. Just sold off a magic the gathering collection to re-jump back into comics. Future plans is wait patiently for the next year to have the 100 different keys I sent in come back graded to hopefully sell most of the bronze-moderns off and roll into a mega key SA book. Collection wise at least at current pricing I have a House in a few comics.... who would have thought ... Anyways I don’t post a ton because most times someone else already has a smart answer to any question and with simple use of a search bar I can find almost all answers I seek. So yeah cheers!

Kinda a lurker and don’t post much at all so hopefully this comes off semi* intelligent lol. For the last 3 years I got out of comics and back into Magic the Gathering. I have 3 teens picked it up and gave me a great excuse to dive back in. Through out that time I wanted to try and build my collection from my later teen years up and I started picking up moxen, cradles, all the reserve list (basically comic keys) that wasn’t reserved when I was a kid. What does this have to do with comics? Everything. Fast forward to covid all those cards that were reserved listed sky rocketed. More players playing, more (I call it bitcoin investing) where people are buying limited quantity items and pushing value to hold as assets. Now 3 years later kids don’t play, a hard year of covid and no gaming at a local comic card shop made me lose interest again. They are printing like mad new more powerful cards (like printing endless 1st appearances). So I said I’m out going back to my comic collecting. The “bubble” in magic went no were. In 3 years I spent maybe 10k buying and holding. That 10k just sold for 40k (3 years). Now to comics. I moved all of my 40k into comics. Because as much gain as you all have seen here to me the guy who watched magic, Pokémon, coins, stamps skyrocket over covid time frame and stimulus checks, comics just hasn’t seen the rise yet. Yes it has risen and on some keys (nm98, esv 2, asm300) I see the buying of bulk and relisting high like that of magic. But with so many keys out there it will take much longer to see the inflation. Already with books I have “sitting” at CGC I’ll be pushing a 40k profit assuming I’m remotely close on grading, buying raws to get slabbed lately. Movies create fans which creates more collectors. The vast majority of people who dabble or enter this market come in with maybe 2k and target those books first. The same happened in MtG. Next will be the silver keys. Not those mega 9.4-9.8 copies as those have always been out of reach for most. But the 5.5-8.5 range. As pointed out DC right now isn’t moving like marvel. There are vastly fewer copies in general and in high grade of DC keys then Marvel. Eventually silver keys will skyrocket like is happening now to power nine cards in MtG. A long rant I know just figured I would share my thoughts, I plan on selling off the vast majority of these Bronze-Modern affordable to the average Joe in the coming months and getting my Showcase 4 Iv always wanted. Mark my words 2+ years from now silver keys will be out of reach for good for most collectors.

I own the Gulliem March sketch edition 50 and while I love Dell'Otto this is not a sexy cover. Let alone the condition makes me sad I'd have bought it if it remotely resembled his work of say x-23. As for price it would make people cry to know how cheap I got mine and it graded out 9.8 cgc but the certificate it comes with still only gets u a green label