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Moved my Catwoman #51 raw NM/NM+ on Ebay today for $85 shipped. No complaints, and honestly I believe the cover is not very good for Hughes. There are a few Catwoman covers I prefer.

 

 

This book is proof that covers matter to a good portion of collectors. There have been 91 copies sold since 9/19/16 and there are 14 more for sale. ALL of them bring nice sized bids or high BIN. Congrats on your sale.

Zatanna #16 is my favorite AH cover thus far but damn is it pricey. Not quite prepared to spend that much for a cover.

Can there be a separate thread where people can argue about staying power? I think heating up doesn't have to mean that its going to stay hot.

 

I only rarely come look at this thread where I used to look regularly. It is so much fighting that the thread is near useless

Depending on one's reasons for reading this thread, I think whether a book will keep its value (and for how long) can be relevant to the discussion.

If you only want to know what books to buy from your LCS for a quick flip on ebay, then yeah not so much. However, if someone is buying a hot $500+ book on ebay for investment, I'm sure they wouldn't want to see it going for $100 just a few months down the line.

Yeah I would agree, but I have to admit I admire the complexity of that cover.

 

The only variant that should be getting any hype currently is the Jones variant of GSC1 that's a perfect storm.

What's GSC? Gunsmith Cats is the only thing coming to my mind and that's manga.

So if I buy the venom 3 variant through 7ate9 website, they won't be NM since the lemon site is hoarding all the 9.8 copies?

It may or may not be 9.8 NM/MT depending on the average condition they receive from the publisher and how many folks buy a CGC 9.8 copy.

I've paid $40-50 for CGC 9.8 slabs on ebay because of that "guarantee" in condition for what are essentially $5 books that I need for my PC.

I'm new to this forum, but I have been collecting for a long time, I've been trying to find a value for a certain graded book I have, I have walking dead #8 graded at a 10, only 1 in circulation, what would the value to this book be? I get a wide range of prices at the comic con but I'm sure some are low balling it

Here's a starting point:

http://comicspriceguide.com/titles/walking-dead-the/10/rkxxiu#_profileTab

Note, value is pretty much the intersection of how high someone else is willing to pay and how low you're willing to accept for the book.

Book has been out for three years. It was a 20 dollar book a month ago, why would it have staying power?

Note, I mentioned better staying power in comparison to another title. I won't even pretend to know how the market will behave but I reckon as far as comics go, Carnage is more popular than the Winter Soldier so Superior Carnage #1 will probably hold its value better than the other one.

Saw it last night, loved it despite the annoying middle schoolers in the audience.

Haven't seen it yet but I plan to soon. The above is why I never liked watching movies in theaters. However, we discovered a dine-in theater with recliners and reserved seating in our area (first movie we watched there was The Avengers in 2012). The kids and teenagers in the audience are much better behaved so whenever we want to see a movie on the big screen, we go there.

He has been being hyped lately.. Honestly nothing at all special about the cover.

Probably has better staying power than the Thunderbolts variant since it's a more popular character.

I like Checchetto's connecting covers for Elektra #1, Kingpin #1 and Bullseye #1 for Feb 2017 release. Got those plus the Skottie Young Baby variants preordered through Midtown.

Not bothering the LCS with this request (although I did get the regular cover from them for reading). I can understand Bryan Hibbs complaint regarding variant cover ordering. At least with chase variants, it's fairly simple: buy x of regular covers and you can get 1 chase. The Checchetto Connecting, Skottie Young Baby, Hip Hop and Action Figure variants for those three issues are free to order with the caveat that orders for the regular cover must meet or exceed 125% of orders for Daredevil #10 (JUN160874). Easy enough to meet if the retailer only ordered like 10 copies or less (of Daredevil #10). Probably not so much if they got 100.

Marvel seems determined to top Diamond's charts via all these convoluted rules for ordering variants to bump up unit sales without any care for sell-through. These tactics give me a much greater appreciation for DC's freely orderable variants.

Also... I actually order Marvel Unlimited. I mean... I probably shouldn't, because most of what I read I find to be A) terrible, or B) sad, but at that price, it's easier to justify it.

 

To summarize, I'm absolutely not buying any of their actual books, but they're still getting some of my money.

Yep this. And inertia is a big thing, too, once they get people to subscribe. Some folks won't bother cancelling the subscription given the relatively cheap price. I know people paying $$$ in cellphone bills who haven't bothered switching carriers or even cheaper plans within the same carrier due to inertia.

Besides, how much of the cover price does Marvel actually get to keep? Jim Zub posted the following estimated breakdown for his creator-owned comic ($3.50 cover).

Pretend Marvel gets $1.60 (40%) for every issue sold inclusive of printing costs. At $69 per year and 3% credit card processing fee, if Marvel can get just 100,000 Marvel Unlimited subscribers, that revenue would be roughly equivalent to selling ~350,000 comics per month. At $9.99 per month with 100k subscribers, that's ~600,000 comics (albeit greater flight risk). And this is for back issues so more akin to trades than new releases.

Let's not forget the value of having records of and instant access to a customer's comic reading habits. This information isn't just for Marvel, it's probably a lot more valuable to Disney.

Loot Crate has around 600,000 subscribers. Netflix ~45 million and Amazon Prime ~63 million. Apple has sold 338 million iPads since launch. I don't know anyone who doesn't own a smartphone. Individual comics sales for digital may be dwarfed by print but I reckon an eat all you can subscription service ala-Netflix has the potential to make pretty good money for DC and Marvel (given extensive backlists for which they own the IP). Not so much for smaller publishers and creator-owned content.

Unfortunately, it's cutting out the middleman (Diamond and retailers) from the equation.

So far $9.99 a month, maybe less, you have virtually unlimited access to back issue reading and get all the new stuff, albeit six months late? That's less than the price of 3 new comics a month.

 

That's a lot cheaper than getting the whole marvel output 6 months later every month out of the dollar box. Plus you never need to buy a TPB.

 

How many people are signed up for this?

 

To me, this sounds like suicide for Marvel.

 

Even producing comics just for a digital market, could this possibly bring in enough revenue? True, we're probaly talking about likely fewer than 100,000 people nowadays who are regularly buying a decent # of Marvel floppies. A few more if you include people like me who buy them a couple of months later out of the cheap box?

It's actually less than $6/mo if you get the annual subscription. Suicide? Depends on how many subscribers they can attract and keep. Just look at last month's Loot Crate effect on some obscure title I can't even remember the name of.

Server upkeep is probably cheaper than printing reprints and trades. And that's a more or less guaranteed $6-10/mo (minus credit card fees). No cut to Diamond or retailers.

SPLATT is hit or miss judging from some of these posts. I liked his Moon Knight and Prophet covers back in the day though. His female crotchial regions are weird looking, he's not quite sure what to do there. I guess these guys all have their weaknesses, like Liefield with faces and bodies and limbs and guns and swords and backgrounds.

Is that a double entendre?

I liked Motor Girl 1.

 

It isn't Image. Maybe you are thinking of Motor Crush

Ah yes, it was Motor Crush. I'll just sample Motor Girl 1 on Comixology. Won't have time to visit the LCS until after the holidays.

Motor Girl #1 1st print 11,587 I would think 2nd print will be lower.

Is the first issue any good? There was a very short preview on Image Plus, iirc, but that didn't quite catch my fancy.

Will the book maintain when they cancel the title?

 

WD and ASM have long term stability being in a core title.

What title? Thunderbolts? If monthly sales/attrition weren't so abysmal, I'd probably guess you wouldn't even need to wait that long.

 

That's really what I am wondering. You spend all that money on a rare variant of a title and then they cancel a title. There is no way this book maintains its value.

Preaching to the choir. I had it on my followed searches in case my preorder got cancelled. I figured sooner or later after the initial furor dies down, it'll probably drop down to $20-ish or so which is much more my speed.

Will the book maintain when they cancel the title?

 

WD and ASM have long term stability being in a core title.

What title? Thunderbolts? If monthly sales/attrition weren't so abysmal, I'd probably guess you wouldn't even need to wait that long.

Yes, well that happens with every book for the most part.

I highly doubt it would've reached that high if it was never featured in the YouTube vid. It was kinda flying under the radar and looking at sales numbers, Thunderbolts is probably teetering on the edge of cancellation. Looking forward to #8, though. I believe Black Widow will be making an appearance. Jon Malin's art, though... *sigh* Not a fan...

Speaking of stuff that has cooled down, Thunderbolts #7 Checchetto:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/142211512108

 

Don't need it anymore, though. Looks like DCBS came through and it will be in my next shipment.

 

Here you go:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=THUNDERBOLTS%20%237%20Variant&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2045573.m1684

Exactly. Went as high as $182.50 but there are no takers for $179.99 BIN (w/free ship) and later sales are lower. Current auction is $21.50 with 3 days to go. Meanwhile, it was already at $30-50 with 4-5 days left on auction a couple days after the CBSI article was originally posted.

 

Ever hear of the term "first to market"?

This is not uncommon, with ANY book.

Umm, that was exactly my point? Early bird and all. I've just been following the search planning to get one if it ever hit my target price. Now I don't have to bother.

Besides, there's a different hot pick now.

Learn to think independently and separate yourself from the herd.

 

cBSi is by definition THE HERD.

CBSI is really more like the shepherd. The followers who immediately jump on ebay and drive prices up are the herd.

 

this is why I only buy books that I'm sure absolutely no one else will want, so no one can accuse me of being a sheep.

I seem to have crappy taste so for me, it just comes naturally. Well, at least until that Checchetto variant, that is.

Learn to think independently and separate yourself from the herd.

 

cBSi is by definition THE HERD.

CBSI is really more like the shepherd. The followers who immediately jump on ebay and drive prices up are the herd.

Speaking of stuff that has cooled down, Thunderbolts #7 Checchetto:

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/142211512108

 

Don't need it anymore, though. Looks like DCBS came through and it will be in my next shipment.

 

Here you go:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=THUNDERBOLTS%20%237%20Variant&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2045573.m1684

Exactly. Went as high as $182.50 but there are no takers for $179.99 BIN (w/free ship) and later sales are lower. Current auction is $21.50 with 3 days to go. Meanwhile, it was already at $30-50 with 4-5 days left on auction a couple days after the CBSI article was originally posted.

Speaking of stuff that has cooled down, Thunderbolts #7 Checchetto:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/142211512108

Don't need it anymore, though. Looks like DCBS came through and it will be in my next shipment.

There are. 9.8, ASM 667 Dell'otto, and Walking Dead #1, 9.9 to name a couple...

-J.

 

I'd be curious to see if either of them could get that range currently.

 

Absolutely. A 9.9 WD #1 just sold for $12k yesterday, and a 9.8 ASM 667 sold for $7300 last month (first copy to come up in 3.5 years).

 

-J.

Curious, are there any 10.0 WD #1 or is 9.9 the highest?

Here's another ugly one:

that cover should have never been released to the public. wretched.

Funny thing, it's a chase variant (might be 1:100). I feel absolutely no need to buy 100 copies of the regular cover to get a variant that ugly.

DK III Master Race #4

 

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/uL8AAOSwbYZXUMzJ/s-l1600.jpg

Concur.