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Haaaah. No kidding!!!

^ This is always the case. I started to write my own take on it, but I realized I've written something similar in reply to one of your threads previously, regarding a different artist. After seeing how that played out (among other threads) I'm just going to save my breath. I hope it works out for you. I happened to like Skottie's work long before he became "Skottie Young, Marvel cover guy", and I would never have suggested anyone look to his work for investment. But then, I'm in the camp that thinks buying work you don't love, simply to try and make a buck is about one of the worst things to do. Especially if you are having to ask a board of other art collectors if it is a good move. I never see ANY art as investment. Somewhere to park chunks of money for a bit maybe, but I damn well better love it to make it even worth while. Investments are investments. Comic art strictly as investment is a fools errand, IMO.

Pretty sure Lobrac was being sarcastic, but by all means, continue with the history lesson anyway.

I thought it might be fun to put some pieces from my collection up in an at scale lineup. This is not my whole collection, just some pieces I thought it would be fun/interesting to show. 5' 8" person (me) Flinch comic at scale. A small published Mignola spot illustration from Hellboy Full bleed 11" x 17" modern comic art (Bradstreet Hellblazer cover) Large art size Paul Pope art (Escapo splash) Kent Williams Batman oil painting Jon Muth oil painting McKean oil/mixed media painting Kent Williams oil painting The rest shown are some of my Phil Hale oil paintings. The big vertical one is the OA for the comic shown at the beginning. The last 2 pieces shown are 72" x 72".

Posted to the Jones group on Facebook.

Holy smack. Start with a Google search. You will be rewarded. Jeff was amazing!

Just finished The PBS doc American Masters: Wyeth on Amazon Prime. I’d been meaning to get to it, and am so glad I finally did. It is about Andrew Wyeth, and it touches on his place in the art world when he was a contemporary of it, and how it essentially turned on him, explaining the art world’s view of Andrew, because of what he was doing in his work (and some of the misunderstandings they level at it), but also his financial successes. They even give you the purchase price MOMA paid for Christina’s world, as they were courting him and other new artists at the time. https://www.pbs.org/video/andrew-wyeth-trailer-i4aqby/ As an aside, my last vacation was a road trip up through New England. On our way up there, we stopped at Chadds Ford, Visited the Brandywine Museum, took tours through the houses and studios. It was a really lovely day, and the Brandywine is a must see museum for anyone interested in the work of Wyeth family at all.

Makes me think of the time I found the Ark of the Covenant at an estate sale in Jersey. Apparently the estate was that of a guy who worked as a night watchman for some big warehouse or something. Anyhow, by the time I got to the Auction, it had already sold. $127.50 if I remember correctly. I offered the buyer twice that in cash right then and there, but he said he needed more storage for his tools at home, so he declined. I bought a nice bronze Art Deco lamp, and called it a day. When I went around back to pick it up, I saw the guy and his friend trying to get the Ark into his pickup bed, and they dropped it. Thing shattered into at least 12 pieces. I dunno, it seemed such a shame, I just couldn’t bare to look. So I just heard all the screaming and yelling over there, but I focused on getting my lamp secure, and going home. It’s a shame, as it was one of a kind. Some folks don’t seem to understand we aren’t just owners of this stuff, we are caretakers. Anyhow, not sure if that guy was able to glue it back together or what. But if you ever see it for sale, buyer beware. I definitely saw it damaged. Donnelly’s probably have it, repainted in gold auto paint from Pep Boys.

For the Facebook users, a post by Frank Cho about his visit to Henry Hui’s home and his Studio based art collection... (spoiler alert: what a photo) https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157270047451843&id=627011842

And here I thought this was going to revisit that story about how their construction contractor was secretly living in their Florida house, and stole some pages from Jimmy’s art collection, that he then tried to sell up in NYC. Then I remembered that was Joe, not Jimmy. Heh.

This is exactly where my mind went as well. Too funny!

That Sook piece is fantastic. Makes me think of a number of Andrew Robinson commissions from 20 years ago. (Andrew used to inject a lot of whimsy into some of his commissions)

The Thing image is certainly a story point. A lazy one, I think, but it's true. There is an easier distinction between say the Captain America, or the Fabio Thor. But the difference between Pinecone Thing and the page with John, PS, etc, is that they were played as a comedic moment that is intentionally "bad". I feel like there is a very knowing nod and wink there that the Thing portrayal doesn't really have. Could be argued both are effective at what they set out to do. One could argue the same about the Liefeld Cap, for that matter. But for my money, the Constantine HB costume is a success at being funny and making the character look silly. I don't mind it. I think JC has looked worse. There have been some awful art done in the main Hellblazer book every now and again. I'd set that way above this gag image as a bad look for John, personally.

I think there is a difference between a character being intentionally made to look silly as part of the story's sake, and one where the artist has just reinterpreted the character with a bad design. But hey, that might just be me drawing an unnecessary distinction?

https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=163495 For Sale status is marked at 0, so maybe you have a chance?

Solid plan.

Thanks for sharing your insight. At the risk of this thread becoming less about DWJ and more about Felix, I wanted to add I also do not think Felix is attempting to overhype anyone with outlandish claims. It is fairly obvious to me (and I suspect most of you) that Felix has a genuine enthusiasm for all of his guys and gals. And yes, it is Felix’s eye for the unique and the talented that is on display, as far as his roster’s ability to be featured in one popular run of books after another. If anything gives me pause, it is the possibility of an unintended knock-on effect to the hobby, should buyers get in such a frenzy of missing out that they buy art that they aren’t 100% on board with, in the fear of getting nothing. This isn’t Felix’s doing as such. His warnings of quick sell-through are simply the heads up of how these sales are increasingly playing out. Yet, I’m not convinced it is the best environment for buying art. That mad dash decision making having to be done in seconds. I’m curious to see the long term effect it has on collecting of modern art, and of the collectors that buy this way. It’s a new(ish) phenomenon. The closest I can come to it, is the old Mignola lines at SDCC, where it was a mad dash to his table to buy Hellboy pages for $100-300 a pop. And instead of web connection speeds being the deciding factor, it was what kind of badge you had to get in earlier than the rest. When Mike’s page rates went up, those mad dashes mellowed a lot. The difference was Mike stayed on his book long term. And from what I’ve seen, Felix’s guys are doing lots of different things. The market is different, and it’s a whole new ball of wax I think. We will just have to wait and see how it all plays out in the end.

Pffft. Glen is just trying to throw us all off the scent, because he wants to keep that Kirby/Royer masterpiece all for himself.

Did you buy art from the WW book, or did you just read it? I’ve noticed a few of my art collector buddies have bought pages from a new series because the work looked great and they knew the character, and THEN have gone back to read the book, only to discover that the comics the art is for, are actually pretty damn good. More than a few have done this with art from Felix’s crew, in particular. Others that I know have waited to read the books before deciding to purchase art, but by the time they’ve gotten around to it, either Felix has had a total sell-through, sold the book complete, or the pages sell in minutes. So they get shut out. I think it’s great that Felix is really stepping up and providing such a service for his creators, and more importantly (IMO) he has chosen such a very talented series of guys to work with. I wish them all the success in the world. I am very curious about the folks that do buy the art un-read first though, which I’ve read happen more and more recently, and is why I ask.

Also they frankly appear to be collectors who happen to have given themselves a business name and price portions of their art collection for “sale”, which is to say, not really, but sort of. And that money raised (always well above what they paid) seems to buy more pieces.

https://www.thestar.com/business/2019/12/27/zowie-original-comic-book-art-is-suddenly-selling-for-millions.html?fbclid=IwAR0N9d7ShT8Bz_Ou0ivzBwMy5DlOc0JJz6J7rBoembnCrjETjj7P-eEZLBA

Sounds like a ton of policing for Bill. I’m sure he has better ways to spend his time.

Neerrrrrrrrrrrrdsssssssss. Nerds. Nerds. Nerds. Nerds.