DonSal1976

5 minutes ago, icefires said:

Most are trying to be nice to you.

Not me.

You were totally wrong in putting some of the blame on CGC.

It is you that doesn't understand how the process works.

 

 

15 minutes ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

+1

And his thinking behind it is that "CGC didn't reach out to him", AND didn't help when he called.

How was CGC supposed to do that if they didn't have his information, as none was provided by Paradise Comics..... We've heard other customers waiting for invoices to return to Paradise to pick up that there name, number or anything was NOT on the invoice..... How was CGC supposed to get this information to somehow contact a customer of Paradise if it wasn't provided?

Edit:  @Transplant we both said the same thing at the exact same time.... How is CGC supposed to know "who's there were" other than paradise.

Every time a comic is dropped off at the shop an invoice with all my contact info is made up...I get a copy and the other one is attached to the book (from my understanding and witnessing) when it is grouped together with other customers books. If my invoice with my info is not attached to the book then how would the comic shop know which book is mine for when it returns? If they send in 10 different copies of Batman #666 from 10 different customers at the same time how would you know which copy is yours if your info wasn’t attached to it? If it is not done this way then please enlighten me to the exact process. 

2 minutes ago, Transplant said:

If only there were some other way you could communicate directly with CGC, instead of yelling out loud in a public square? 

https://www.cgccomics.com/contact/

They "knowingly had" your books?  You mean the books on Paradise's account that, as far as CGC knows, have nothing to do with you?  The same CGC Peter has said had nothing to do with the delay?  What did you want CGC to do?  Did you want them to set off alarms about books that had been with CGC for a long time (maybe due to not being paid) and then read your mind that the books were yours, not the dealer # on the actual invoice?  What is it exactly that you think CGC was "aware of"?

Contacted them by email and by phone. Both attempts were met with absolutely no attempt to help......each invoice has my personal information, so they had it. Pleading ignorance of a situation is not a viable defence. Like I said, please continue to bash me as you see fit, I am entitled to my personal opinions. 

10 minutes ago, Bomber-Bob said:

Peter, thanks for the reply. You are correct, you did not implicate CGC. I apologize for that statement. However, the implication of this thread, specifically made by your customer DonSal1976 , is that CGC was at fault. He states that CGC has knowingly been holding the books in their vault and would not answer his inquires. He is still ranting about it. I think we all realize (except for DonSal) that CGC would not talk to him because the books were not submitted by him. His accusation that CGC was holding the books in their vault is the unexplained aspect of all this. I don't think anybody here cares about the rantings of DonSal but it would be nice if you could specifically clarify what happened. If the submission was 'late' getting to CGC, no biggie. Just tell us so we can get this very disgruntled customer of yours, DonSal, out of here. Help us, HaHa !

I think I’ve now repeated myself multiple times, I believe that CGC is “partially” at fault in this whole situation, not fully..please learn to read if you are going to post. Paradise comics has answered any questions I had for them, CGC has not. Your opinions are just that, yours. Everyone else on here is free to express theirs, as am I. If you don’t want to listen to my comments then by all means, please skip them. My issue for the final time is how CGC has handled my customer complaints and this entire situation.  ??

Its been 20 days since this thread and posts were started on their own chat boards and not one employee or  representative from CGC has said anything regarding the situation. You guys can bash me all you want regarding my belief that CGC is partly responsible for this but the lack of communication in any way from them only furthers my opinions and their validity. 

2 minutes ago, Wall-Crawler said:

Uhmm...So how did you come to "understand" it was not a Paradise issue but a delay on CGC's end?

SOMEONE initially told you that...

I was told that the comics were sent in to CGC when they were supposed to and I believe that. There are other issues I’m not privy to or aware of I understand that. I came to my own conclusions that this whole mess is not 100% paradises fault. People on here are speculating that payments weren’t made on time or other reasons for the delays, maybe so maybe not, I don’t know. I DO know the following...books with my name,phone number and email on the attached paperwork (not just paradise comics info) have been sitting in their vaults for over 10 months. Unless CGCs inventory system is a complete disaster (I don’t think so) they are fully aware that a paying customers books have been sitting there for that long. Whatever the issues at play are CGC have their reputation to uphold, and not attempting to resolve this issue months ago or at the very least contacting affected customers to let them know the status of their books is  YES partly their fault. 

10 minutes ago, Turtle said:

I agree.  Your previous post didn't implicate CGC in any wrongdoing.  However, several recent posts by @DonSal1976 described an interaction with Kristina that gave DonSal a very strong indication that CGC was the bad guy in all this and Paradise Comics is mostly just along for the ride; a notion that he shared very passionately in this thread.  I realize that you have no control over what someone else posts here, but it sounds like Kristina may not have been as willing to assume responsibility in all this as you have.  DonSal's scathing post about CGC is likely what prompted @Bomber-Bob's post.

In this way, you've indirectly cast a bad light upon CGC and it seems that Bob was simply trying to get some details to dispel any perceived negativity from their company. 

I never said CGC was the “bad guy” in all of this. I don’t believe that paradise is 100% to blame for this either meaning that there is some blame to go around. CGC has knowingly had my books (and many other people’s) in their vaults for almost a year. If that didn’t set off alarms and push CGC to correct any issues they were aware of then they are not completely innocent either. My main issue with CGC has been their complete and utterly horrible customer service with me personally. Kristina at paradise has been nothing but helpful to me and many others, and I in no way said she led me to believe anything about CGC. These are my personal feelings and not those of anyone at paradise comics. 

10 hours ago, SteppinRazor said:

While I understand the privacy concerns, if it is true as someone said earlier that CGC will withold books from dealers without payment, what the heck is the point of having 'authorized dealers'?  CGC will hold your books because their authorized dealer doesn't pay, but also will not tell you where your books are even though they authorized the dealer?  Paradise is obviously the one who effed up here, but if the above is true about how CGC operates, that is pretty not cool on CGC's part.  Your books are trapped because you chose to send to a dealer CGC authorized to collect from and now they will not only hold them but not tell you?

Exactly my point. I didn’t want to know the grades of the books, all I wanted to know is if they had even been graded yet, given they’ve been there 10 months. Absolutely horrible, horrible customer service..and that was from a supervisor. 

4 minutes ago, icefires said:

So their website address returns "This Account has been suspended."

My recollection of other website upgrades returns something more like "Website under construction", or similar.

When you talk them, I doubt very much they will say "we suck."

They will give you the story you got.

I am still thinking at least 90% of the blame should be on Paradise.

 

Actually they did take the blame for many of the issues, kudos to them. They are human, and they are hard at work trying to fix everything. CGC in your opinion may be only 10% to blame, but they seem to be taking 0% of the responsibility. I know which company I would prefer to deal with. 

9 minutes ago, darkstar said:

Did you read my post above? This isn't a CGC issue. This is a Paradise Comics issue. Why are you waiting for more info? THEY STOLE YOUR MONEY AND BOOKS. Its possible they haven't even sent your books in for grading yet. They are giving you the runaround in the hopes that you go away and forget about it. You need to go there in person and demand answers and threaten law enforcement and/or legal action if your problem is not solved. 

Ok everyone, my update. To start with, nobody is stealing or robbing or closing or anything like that. Drama needs to stop. There have been some issues which are currently being resolved by a wonderful staff at paradise comics as we speak and hopefully everyone will receive their late books in the near future. The people at paradise,especially Kristina, are working tirelessly to fix any issues that were slowing down the process of submissions. There were some issues (yes paradises fault) regarding organization which have been seemingly resolved. They are very determined to help customers and solve any outstanding book issues. Thank you to them, we are all human and mistakes will be made but your positive attitude in trying to right the wrongs explain why your awesome comic shop has survived as long as it has. Every book that was submitted by a customer was submitted that same month to CGC, that is what I was told and I firmly believe that, given the liability and insurance issues regarding this sort of stuff. That strongly, strongly leads me to have issues regarding the legitimacy of CGCs turnaround times. I spoke to 2 separate employees at CGC and was told that they could not help me in any way whatsoever except to give me the shop owners contact info. They just repeated that there was zero time delay on their end and that all books (modern) only take 4-5 weeks. Sorry, but 2 plus 2 does not equal 3. I have a strong suspicion that they are processing books out of order but of course they will not admit that and I have no proof. Either way, the fact that the books I sent in in April are still not back are in no way 100% paradises fault. There is some blame to go to CGC whether they choose to admit it or not. The one thing that I will be taking away from this entire scenario is that while I begged and begged CGC to help resolve the issue they repeatedly (not maliciously) refused to help. I’m sorry, but for a multi-multi million dollars company to list off a contact email and say there is nothing more they can do for me is quite disheartening. Hopefully this helps anyone out there waiting on books. You should all hopefully be getting them back sooner than later. 

Is anyone in here in contact with an administrator or any employee of the company so that we get any kind of actual clarification about all this directly from a representative?A statement from them regarding whether or not there is a 6-12 month delay would be very helpful, given that this is their business and their reputation. Anyone???

16 minutes ago, Spawn1709 said:

Let us know what happens. I'd be interested to see whats taking all of our books so long to get graded.

Got an email back from CGC telling me that because it’s all under paradise comics account they cannot help me and I would have to contact them. Just called paradise and gave them all my invoice numbers. They said they will get back to me on the status of my books. So far CGCs customer service is non-existent  . I can understand not being able to give out info because of an account that isn’t mine, but not one word in the email answering my question as to why it’s taken 6-10 months. Gonna wait on more info from paradise and then move on to a strongly worded phone conversation with someone from their offices. As far as I’m concerned not honouring a rush order for more money is pretty much fraudulent. 

Sent CGC all my invoice numbers from paradise comics. They are looking into it. I paid extra for a comic to rush it...it was submitted to them in July. What do you guys think, did I get my moneys worth waiting 6 months (and counting) for a paid “rushed” book?

Sent cgc an email and explained the situation. Need to get to the bottom of this. If paradise is the only place having this problem I want to know why. I’m guessing nobody will respond till Monday. 

20 minutes ago, ygogolak said:

They don't take that long.

Sounds like something else is going on. I would assume the books were not submitted when you thought they were.

No that shouldt be the problem. When we bring books in we specifically ask when the batch will be sent in and we are told the exact date. From what I understand it’s not a paradise issue it’s strictly delays on CGCs end. 

Apparently there are a lot of people going through the same thing. It’s not an isolated incident, all I hear at every single con I go to in Toronto are people discussing how long they’ve been waiting. Personally I’ve been waiting 9 months for 3 books, 8 months for 6 books, 7 months for 3 books and 6 months for another 4 books, all sent in through paradise comics, a couple of them were rush. I do not know whether this is something that is affecting only them or also other comic shops in the Toronto area. Wouldn’t the blame lie with CGC themselves? 6 months to over a year to return books would mean they need to hire more graders to speed up their turnaround times. All I know is that I’ve decided not to submit anything else to CGC until they can show they’ve completely fixed their obvious turnaround issues. 

What's confusing is that it looks like a Bruce Timm batman the animated series drawing, which didn't come out until '92 I think. 

1 hour ago, drotto said:

I have been selling off some books I do not care as much about over the last few months, and have a minimum of $5000 to spend which is likely to hit 6k to 7k in the next few weeks (I am still selling a few things).  My interests are mainly X-Men and Batman.  I am looking to pick up key books and 1st apperances mainly within those two families, but am open to other suggestions.  These are book I intend to keep. These are not flips. I have a few books in mind that I have always wanted like X-Men 1 (looking for a mid grade copy), and Giant Sized X-Men 1 (higher grade).  So I throw the thread open to suggestions. Sorry no prizes.  

I got a nice Cherry Poptart #1 I'd be willing to sell ya...pages are a bit sticky though. 

What is the barcode on the bottom left?  Second, third, fourth print??? Some other variant?  I think I may have seen one years ago but I can't remember for sure   Anyone got any info?  Thanks  

Yup, that's the copy I just purchased donut. ??

I just found a low grade copy of this book after literally a year of searching every comic shop, garage sale, flea market and eBay listing out there.  There seems to be only 1 cgc copy of this book. Can anyone tell me why there are so few copies of this book available? I know the whole Canadian Newsstand survival rate story but this book seems to be extra difficult to find. Does anyone else on these boards have a copy? Were these extremely undersold given the $2.00 cdn price tag at the time (1983)? I think this book was in the 60-80 page range, could that be part of the reason so few newsstands exist? Any insight would be appreciated. 

Sal

On 2017-06-29 at 9:25 PM, OrangeNemesis said:

they merge and now Batman is a trans girl from Uganda, Catwoman is gay dude with a weird cat fetish, Bane becomes chinese and fights asian hulk over land disputes........

 

no thanks. 

I laughed for a solid 10 minutes after reading this. So true. Marvel would destroy all the dc greats just like they messed with their own roster. 

2 minutes ago, revat said:

I'd put it on ebay at 20% OVER what the highest possible price you think it will make and take offers.  If you accidentally sell it, its cool, you made a bunch of scratch.  If not, then hopefully you get an idea.  If you're not getting ANY offers after a while, you can lower the price a bit every so often until you do.

I was thinking the exact same thing. It's impossible to accurately price something that has no previous sales. 

Yes that book. midtown seriously needs to upgrade their site. As you can tell by the sold out status of the whitman variant, they aren't gonna be getting any in.....ever.   I find it strange that a company that big and well known either can't stay informed in the industry and keep their website up to date. If midtown can find me some copies for that price I'm in. 

Found a batman 324 whitman variant today at a local comic shop and scooped it up for a great price, pretty sure the owners didn't know how rare this book truly is. This comic never, ever pops up. I saw that someone on here sold one on the board marketplace last year. Since it's considered one of the rare whitman 8 dc variants and there are zero raw or cgc graded copies on eBay to compare prices, what is this book really worth?  The book looks to be in the 5.5-7.0 cgc range, might benefit from a good press too as light cover wrinkling seems to be the only major flaw this book has,as well as a couple of colour breaking staple stress lines and a minor rear corner cover chip. I could guess the book should rightfully fall in the $150-$300 cdn price range. Out of the 8 whitmans I'd like to think the batman would be the 2nd or 3rd rarest of the bunch to locate. Any insight on this would be greatly appreciated.