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The problem with this thinking is that work is already done. So if Marvel likes what they see, publish it. If they don’t, the relationship ends. I really think this is John swan song. Whatever form it is, we are lucky to be able to see it, for free.

Agree. I really appreciate what it takes to make comic art. What I love about the original art is seeing all of the little notes, pencils, white out, etc. As a kid I always thought that comic artist where so good that I would never be able to compete. (Always wanted to work for marvel). Seeing the original you see that you don’t have to be perfect.

I’m not following you here. You can make a profit by owning NFTs and reselling them. Also, isn’t part of the art collector mentality is being able to say, I own this original art, no one else has it?Even though you can get high res images or artist editions. To others, owning original art is wasting money.

I’ve been think about this topic for awhile. Trying to understand why someone is willing to pay for digital art. I’m use to art being a physical thing. But that really isn’t true. We pay for music, performances, etc. we don’t own those things yet we ‘pay’ for something we don’t true own physically. Is it the prices of NFTs that seem insane? To someone trying to pay rent can think original comic book art, at any price, is the same as NFTs. How many in this group have art tucked away out of sight? art that is looked at only once and awhile? We know it’s in our possession but it just kind of there. Kind of like NFTs? Any thoughts? I’m having a hard time articulating my perspective.

An Open Letter To Comic Book Publishers About NFT From Mike Deodato https://bleedingcool.com/comics/an-open-letter-to-comic-book-publishers-about-nft-from-mike-deodato/

Correct me if I’m wrong, but wouldn’t it be the similar as the artist now that create limited quantity sketch books? They more than likely just give the artist a mini license for that particular product category?

It would be understandable if they wanted to control it and get their cut. I just think it is going to be impossible. Telling your artist not to participate is one way but what happens when those artist see their art being bought for millions because someone (legally or illegally) put up a commission piece for sale?

I can understand your thinking. If I had the disposable income to hire an artist I would. Owning it is the collector in me, but just as powerful is seeing what that artist created with my favorite characters.

True. There are some extremely talented artist out there.

They should get in on this and this would be a great way for creators to truly get compensation for their talents.

Agree. There are so many things to considered. Why wouldn’t an artist use the NFT system as a way to sell their pages? I think what people have to keep in mind is that we might not see the reasoning or desire to buy a digital copy of the original art, but people are buying gifs. Crazy.

It is a slippery slope. And thank you for not going into legal territory, I barely kept up with your last reply. If you don’t mind me asking you questions, I have one more. When a pen and ink commission is digitally scanned and someone buys the digital art. Isn’t that that pretty much the same implied concentration? Digital is just another medium to make art. Like digital artist selling their art prints as one offs now. Just because this is NFT art, and people are paying insane amounts of money, how can DC really tell artist they can’t do it? I get that prices some artist are getting are high, but price shouldn’t matter. Because NFT is new shouldn’t matter. At some point in time commissions were new.

Very informative. I think I hung with you. You’re making the distinction that pencil and pen have been an implied / accepted practice so it’s okay. Do I have that right? I’m still not getting the difference between a pen and ink commission versus a digital commission. How you create the art matters? Serious question, do you think DC is actually giving consent to artist commissions? It seems they are turning a blind eye. As long as you are not mass producing the commission to make money they are okay with it. Commissions keep fans and artist happy, but I can’t imagine DC would actual come out and say they give consent to commissions.

Ok boomer.

So it was meant to offend. Is the thread about pirating? No. Is pirating illegal, yes. No need to discuss. My mindset is very clear. No need to read through a page of nonsense from a wind bag. I wasn’t being arrogant. I have been very polite. And I have genuinely listened to those that are actually talking about this thread. Someone who openly says that they go to places on the web to steal is the one looking for the badge. But you know this. You seem like a guy that loves to hold court and give out the badges. So, open your mind, stay on topic, and maybe, you might go real far in life.

Should I be offended by that comment? I don’t get what you’re saying

Thank you

Should I be offended by that comment? I don’t get what you’re saying.

Didn’t even bother to read your reply. Pirating is wrong and illegal.

Insightful. I don’t understand how a commission not perfectly reproducible and does that even matter? Ryan Stegmans commissions have turned into covers. Reproduced. So someone saw value in using a commissioned piece of art to sell their product. Art is art. Who says it has to be perfectly reproduced to have value? I honestly don’t understand what you are saying here. How is art reproduction a big difference? And, IP violations need to be addressed even if they are difficult. And there are viable options for people / companies who are infringed upon. Disney scares the out of people. Because they will send a cease desist or even take you to court. They have to. It weakens their mark. Disney can do this because they have the resources. This goes back to my one question, how would DC stop this? Or even attempt to monitor this? NFT is not an unknown. Regardless if someone sells an NFT for 60 million or not. What does the price matter? Honest question. Is it because that amounts gets noticed? The NFT companies purposely put this out to attract attention. That way they can get more people looking to make money off their art. NFT companies charge a fee to mint the art. To me it sounds like a pyramid scheme. I realize you are in a spot being a lawyer, and do respect that, and that you have to be careful what you say. I’m just trying to understand and make sense of all this.

You see no problem with pirating someone else’s hard work? That is wrong. Please do not post your ramblings about pirating, for your own sake. It’s illegal and you can get your self into trouble. It’s wrong.

There is a lot of what you say here that I don’t believe is true or makes sense. I’m not being an . A commission has monetary value. I’ve spent enough to know. The artist getting paid a lot of money for his NFT art certainly raises more brand awareness then a commission posted to CAF. The artist can keep the original art, digitize it and sell it as NFT art. I didn’t understand how digital art is fundamentally different. I agree that not litigating infringement weakens the mark. But the president has been set with the looking away of physical art all these years. I’m not a lawyer. I just play one on the internet.

Say Steve Rude charges 5k for you to commission him. That’s a lot of money, to some. DC looks away. Steve sells an NFT commission. DC will be all over him? One group believes in the value of the dollar. Another group believes in the value of Bitcoin. Bitcoin is not recognized as currency. So when Steve gets paid in Bitcoin where is the harm? Bitcoin is not real. Steve cashes out his Bitcoin. Really money is now a factor. But Steve didn’t get money for a DCs character commission. He got money from exchanging his Bitcoin. Am I not understanding this the right way?

https://io9.gizmodo.com/dc-comics-tells-artists-to-stay-out-of-nft-business-or-1846466427 This raises so many issues and questions. 1. It’s ok for artist to sell art for money but not NFT? Why? 2. How does this work for dealers or artist reps? Are you worried? 3. Does DC have the man power or capability to monitor this? Thoughts?

I’m not buying it. I was wondering about the grade for that particular book. It’s off center, and just doesn’t look like a 9.8 worth grade.