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Bill Murray is great in other movies that aren't straight comedies, not just Wes Anderson films. He was pretty good in Lost in Translation and was perfect as Bunny Beckinridge in Tim Burton's Ed Wood. Bill Murray seems like perfect casting for Ant-Man 3 as it's more on the humorous side of the MCU, kinda the way Jeff Goldblum really worked in Thor Ragnarok.

I know you guys look for any excuse to hate on Disney World but comparing Spider-Man No Way Home to any other MCU film released in Phase Four so far is like comparing the NFL Super Bowl to a NFL regular season game. The hype surrounding No Way Home with its expectations of combining two decades and three franchises of the most popular superhero on the planet into one movie is akin to an Avengers Endgame level event or the Super Bowl. Black Widow, Shang Chi, and Eternals could never have generated as much interest and hype as No Way Home was generating. While for sure there was big interest and hype for Black Widow, Shang Chi, and Eternals, as evidenced by the fact that they are all in the 2021 Top 6 movies for North American box office and at the Top 2021 worldwide box office for movies that didn't get to screen in China, they weren't "I have to see this in a theater NOW or I'll miss out" movies the way No Way Home was. Black Widow was available to watch on Disney+ and Shang-Chi and Eternals were guaranteed to be free on Disney+ two months after their theatrical releases. The pandemic also limited movies like BW, SC, and Eternals, just as it limited every single movie during the pandemic. A lot of people weren't willing to risk their health for even a MCU movie release especially if that movie was on Disney+ like BW or was guaranteed free on Disney+ within two months. Spider-Man No Way Home, with its hype and super-spoilers, required it to be seen its opening weekend and fans don't know when it will be streamed or broadcast free on TV. Even as moviegoing behavior improved towards going back to the movies during the fall, pandemic fears have still kept a lot of moviegoers away in 2021 except for cases where you have to go see the movie. In North America, Shang Chi was a case of people want to see this in the theaters now. In the case of SpiderMan NWH, it's triple that so far. The case of Spider-Man No Way Home is a case of it being an event movie on the level of Avengers Endgame or Star Wars Return of the Jedi. It was that big and can't really be fairly compared box office wise to the regular solo MCU movies, especially during a pandemic.

Now everybody won't shut up about Andrew Garfield. And they called me mad when I said Garfield was my favorite Peter Parker and that Amazing Spider-Man was my favorite Spider-Man movie.

I'm not sure what lessons from the success of Spider-Man No Way Home would apply to Multiverse of Madness and Ms. Marvel. No Way Home was an ultimate fan service film combining the actors from three separate Spider-Man franchises over 20+ years into one big mashup crossover movie. It's the Endgame of Spider-Man movies. That was the reason for the appeal and the hype of No Way Home and why everybody in the world is going to see it. Doctor Strange and Ms. Marvel do not have 20+ years of beloved movies, franchises, and different actors playing the same hero to mash up into one movie. They are essentially "new" characters in the MCU. Reshoots for DS2 and MM are not so Marvel Studios can copy some kind of formula from NWH and apply it. Kevin Feige and Co. have stated that reshoots are part of the MCU process. They start with a screenplay, but because of the hard schedule, they often make things up throughout the shooting process, improvising at times along the way, making adjustments to the screenplay, and then allow time for reshoots. These reported reshoots for DS2 and MM can be assumed to be just part of the MCU process. If there must be speculation for a reason for reshoots for DS2 and MM, one possible reason for DS2 could be due to recent news stories that Marvel had to remove mentions of Shuma Gorath from the story over copyright reasons. Perhaps Marvel will instead elevate another villain to make up for it like D'Spayre reportedly. Reports of DS2 bombing with a test audience are just hearsay that is being pushed by folks like Grace Randolph on YouTube who has a history of pushing hyped up false information. As Ms. Marvel ties directly into The Marvels (along with Secret Invasion), it makes sense to delay that show to a date closer to The Marvels' release date. Perhaps Marvel wants to tweak Kamala's onscreen powers as they reportedly differ from her embiggen powers in the comics and reportedly are more like Green Lantern? I imagine giving Kamala powers more akin to Green Lantern would look better cinematically as the embiggen powers could possibly look too silly in live-action and be similar to Reed Richards who is coming soon.

Okay, so there's a small quota in a large arena of nominations for an Oscar i.e. from a choice of 20 Best Actor or Supporting Actor nominations, ONE must be non-white. I don't see a big deal in that and I don't think there's anything wrong in that unless one goes looking for demons in it. Most likely that one actor from twenty actor nominations who is non-white will deserve to be there as there is so much content nowadays and so many African-American or non-white actors who are able to now find work these days. But yes, I kind of see your point in that there is an actual Oscars inclusion standard which I didn't know existed.

Sure, the careers of celebrities and sports figures being hurt by stupid tweets, episodes of sexual harassment, or breaking the law is a thing, and some of it is deserved like in the case of Roger Ailes or Louis CK, and some of it a little overboard like the case of James Gunn or even Roseanne Barr I think. With the advancement of technology like the internet and social media, communication also spreads faster. Being canceled isn't a new thing in society as it's happened since civilization was a thing ie being ostracized by a church or community for adultery or something. Yes, the Oscars are totally guilty of leaving out actors, directors, and films of color when it came time for consideration of which films and people should be up for an award. There is no quota, though. Last year hardly any African-American actors or themed films where nominated. The Oscars are getting better at it though, primarily by having more Academy members being African-Americans or other ethnicity other than white. Comic books aren't just fantasy escapism. They have also reflected real life as in the case of the drug issues of Amazing Spider-Man or the social issues of Green Lantern/Green Arrow. If Bobby Drake Iceman comes out as gay in the pages of X-Men, how is that not the same thing that comics have always done, reflecting real life? There doesn't have to be a reason for a character to come out as gay, just as there doesn't have to be a reason if one's own friend or relative were to come out as gay. It doesn't have to be seen as some kind of "woke agenda". When Steve Rogers handed the Shield over to Sam Wilson in the pages of Captain America, he did so because Sam has been his partner since the late 60's and was a worthy soldier. Who better, according to the ongoing story, to take up the Shield and represent America than Sam? It doesn't have to automatically be seen as a "woke agenda". As the world becomes more globalized and connected, we can't escape our differences like in the old days. But we can respect those differences. Or not. When Marvel makes a superhero who happens to be a teenage Islamic Pakistani-American girl or a superhero comes out as gay, it's simply a reflection of the world we live in today. Comic books have always done that and it doesn't have to be seen as a "woke agenda." As someone posted above, if you go looking for demons you will most likely find them, whether they are actually there or not.

The "woke movement", as the anti-SJW crowd calls it, is a fallacy created by the same anti-SJW crowd. There is no organized movement forcing comic book companies and movie studios to force diversity into their content. There is no brow beating going on unless you want to call characters like Kamala Khan or Sam Wilson Captain America "brow beating." If Marvel Studios made a Black Panther film it's not only because the character is a part of the Avengers mythos, it's also because Marvel recognized there was an African-American community hungry for a superhero movie starring a black superhero. If Marvel wants more Girl Power in the MCU, that's their choice. There's no organized group protesting outside Disney headquarters demanding more girl superheroes as this "woke movement" label seems to suggest.

I vote for "The Wokenss". It's kinda like The Weeknd. But less fun. I use nothing but logic and evidence in my arguments and if I’m wrong I own up to it. I went to college. And because I’m a Captain Marvel fan and I defend the character against haters that makes me “woke”? Sounds like toxic logic to me. I will say I’m woke in terms before the word was hijacked by the anti-SJW crowd and more in terms as it was used by hip hop culture of being aware that all is not right with the world and injustice is often perpetrated by those in charge.

What Diana did in WW84 was essentially the same thing Wanda did in WandaVision, entrap a non-consenting human being to fulfill her wish.

I was just joking about the Hel thing. Yes it’s not specified where Steve’s spirit was. Maybe it wasn’t really Steve but Diana’s memory of him like in WandaVision.

What if the guy was gay or had sworn a vow of celibacy? Doesn't matter if he was the straightest dude on Earth and had posters of Wonder Woman all over his bathroom. He had no choice in the act. What Diana did in WW84 was selfish and wrong, plain and simple. She could learn a few pointers about self-sacrifice from Carol Danvers.

I watched the HBO Max cut where Diana wishes for her dead boyfriend Steve to come back from Hell and he does or rather he possesses the body of some poor bloke who has no choice in the matter whereupon Diana gets down and dirty with the body of the poor unconsenting man which is possessed by said dead boyfriend, which under the laws of the District of Columbia I believe amounts to rape.

I don't come up with this stuff on my own. Movie theaters across America were counting on Black Widow to pull them out of the dumps as the summer winded down. They were counting on Black Widow saving the U.S. movie theater industry. That's on record. They didn't account for the Delta variant surge or that a Disney+ Premium Access option would ruin those dreams. As for Captain Marvel, it's Kevin Feige who stated years ago that soon Captain Marvel would be at the forefront of the entire MCU. Now, I honestly thought he meant Endgame which was wrong. But we're starting to see elements in Phase Four pointing in the direction that will indeed put Captain Marvel at the forefront. One of her best friends, Nick Fury, is a chief ally of the Skrulls. Her other best friend Maria Rambeau founded SWORD, the new SHIELD. When Wong seeks advice on the nature of the Ten Rings, he calls on Bruce Banner and Carol Danvers. Other than Dr Strange, who else is there? It seems to me that Captain Marvel is indeed about to be thrust to the head of the MCU class.

Okay, except this wasn't a therapy self-help mission. It was a serious mission to get behind enemy lines and find Ares or whoever. Diana and Steve did it despite the clowns that were traveling with them. Btw, did Steve Trevor really have to blow up the plane full of explosives? Couldn't he have just landed the airplane and then blow it up thus negating the need for Diana to bring him back in the body of a man who had no say in the matter in WW84? Yes he could have.

She ignored them for the most part except for the Native American smuggler who needlessly told her his story by the campfire about how stuff was taken from his people and thus wasted another two or three minutes of my time. Diana seemed to get nothing from his story and it added nothing to the story as far as I could tell. I'm still not sure why he was there mission-wise as he didn't really smuggle anything as I remember. And why would they recruit Charlie the sharp shooter if he couldn't even shoot straight?

Marvel Studios has only has only given us cinema magic again and again and again from Ant-Man to Spider-Man No Way Home.

If true (and I hope it's not), I wonder if this may be a reason for the extended shooting? I don't think it's that easy for a film of this nature to just dub in a different name for the villain.

I "loved" how Steve Trevor and Diana wasted like a half hour of my time recruiting a bunch of loser soldiers who were supposed to be specialists and who did practically nothing other than shoot a gun or drive them around. That was some great storytelling and character building there. I also "liked" how Steve kept mansplaining everything to Diana to the point I wanted Diana to just say "Okay I get it, Mr Know It All." And I'm sorry, Gal Gadot is great to look at and the Israeli accent is very charming and exotic, but does anybody really think she can act? Her curled brow thing to emote distress works for a little while but that seems to be all she has. I'll admit her looks and charm take her pretty far but it couldn't get past the awful story of WW84.

Tell you what. When folks stop accusing films like Captain Marvel, Black Panther, Shang-Chi, and Eternals of being SJW or whatever you want to call it you know what I mean, I'll stop accusing folks of being toxic. I'd love to talk about films on the basis of their story and relation to the comics alone.

By the way, it wasn't a bait and switch. You did need to see the Captain Marvel movie in order to understand how and why Nick Fury would have called her at the end of Infinity War and to understand what she brought to the table and why when she arrived to give the Avengers an assist in Endgame. Had you not seen the Captain Marvel movie, you might be like "who is the glowing flying lady and why does she care?"

I've seen Captain Marvel over a dozen times. I didn't need rose colored Marvel goggles to enjoy it. I liked the buddy road trip aspect of the movie and found it to be a nice breath of fresh air and a distraction from the very depressing and melancholy Avengers Infinity War and its aftermath. I thought the plot was tightly told in three acts and I appreciated that it didn't deviate too far into a side story or long action scene as a lot of of MCU films had been doing. I thought the dialogue was clever enough and humorous in the right parts. I thought Brie Larson (who won an Oscar for Best Acting as a reminder) was charming in the role. In comparison, I actually thought ScarJo was a little wooden in Black Widow. I thought Brie was very natural in Captain Marvel and played the part in a very naturalistic way (although I understand directing and shot editing choices have a lot to do with what appears on screen). I didn't go into Captain Marvel determined to love the movie. I don't work that way. In comparison, I didn't care for Ant-Man and the Wasp that much. I liked it, didn't love it. I was ready to be objective about Captain Marvel as well going into it, and was relieved that when it was over, that I genuinely loved the movie.

In the end it didn't. The Alita Challenge failed miserably. Captain Marvel made $1.1 billion worldwide and shattered expectations. People want to see a good movie and good story and Captain Marvel was just part of that great story that Marvel was telling. It still doesn't make the hate that's been directed at the Captain any more palpable or disturbing. I knew the CM hate got out of hand when a close relative, who wasn't a comics reader just a MCU fan, started giving me grief about Captain Marvel and Brie Larson off info he got from the internet, again, before the movie had even been released.

Wonder Woman has been a major comic book hero since World War Two. She was a fan favorite character of the 70's Superfriends cartoon and had a hit live action TV show in the late 70's. Wonder Woman is one of DC's Big Three along with Superman and Batman. She was one of the few good things of Batman v Superman. And you're saying the Wonder Woman movie had to stand on its own? Nobody in the general audience had barely a clue who this Captain Marvel character was other than a logo on Nick Fury's pager and then a google search afterwards.

Theory: If Spider-Man No Way Home only featured Tom Holland's Peter Parker and some new villain instead of featuring three franchises of Spider-Mans and villains all coming together, I'm not sure Spider-Man No Way Home would have even reached $800 million worldwide factoring in the pandemic surge and the China Marvel boycott.

Since Carol Danvers took the Captain Marvel name in 2012, she became public enemy #1 for the ComicsGate movement which was opposed to diversity and progressivism in the American comic book industry. Kamala Khan, Jane Foster Thor, Bobby Drake (Iceman) coming out as gay, and Sam Wilson Captain America were also attacked by ComicsGate. Way before Captain Marvel was released in theaters, the hate campaign against Captain Marvel had already begun on social media and on YouTube through ComicsGate supporting channels like The Quartering and Geeks and Gamers. The Alita Challenge was propogated online asking fans to go see Alita Battle Angel instead of Captain Marvel on her opening weekend. The Challenge went viral after journalist Jack Posobiec retweeted the challenge. Rotten Tomatoes was bombarded with about 100,000 1 star reviews before the movie was ever released. I myself had arguments with friends on Facebook and such about the whole Captain Marvel thing and I know they weren't comic book readers. The anti-Captain Marvel/Brie Larson movement (before her movie even released) had gone beyond comic book movie fandom and entered the realm of polit**s. It wasn't just a small group of obnoxious trolls. Toxicity is the major reason there was so much loud hate directed at Captain Marvel and Brie Larson. It was all some pretty evil sh*t as far as I'm concerned.