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Nobody gives a rat's behind about spoilers for this movie as the plot will still amount to nothing anyway. People are here to see two Spider-Man-looking blob characters fight eatch other in the true Halloween spirit.

I've noticed that the "zero sum game" is used a lot when arguing against giving women or minorities a bigger piece of the American society pie. Giving women this means that men will lose that. In this nerd culture instance, renaming the X-Men means that Spider-Man and Batman and Superman will also be renamed, which isn't what's going to happen obviously. Frankly, nobody really cares about the Fox X-Men movies anymore. They were cool back then, but they aren't really beloved. Kids these days hardly even know who the X-Men are much less have any loyalty to the name. I think the only people who care are older comic book collectors. Marvel Studios has considered them when making the MCU but hasn't been behoved to them.

That was back in 1969 when American society was male dominated. Nowadays, if an astronaut makes that first step on Mars, say it's a woman astronaut, she might remark something like "One small step for this girl, one big a** step for humanity" or something like that. We live in a world that's progressing more and more towards societal equality between male and female. I know some old fogies ain't down with that. I hear the ladies are kinda having even bigger problems with equality over in Afganistand.

Batman and Spider-Man are males, so they have "man" in their name. Wonder Woman is a female, so she's called as such. Avengers, Fantastic Four, Justice League, etc are all gender non-specific so there's no issue there. It's not really a "sky is falling" situation even though some try to make it out to be as if menkind are victims of some feminist attack. The only popular superhero team with this gender-specific name "issue" is the X-Men. It's simply not a gender-neutral name, it's gender specific. Our language does that a lot (as do a lot of Latin languages), uses a male plural to mean everybody. It's kind of a tradition that reflects the male dominance of society in the past. Being an open-minded person, I don't mind if Marvel can figure out some kind of progressive way to give our X-heroes some movie title that's as forward thinking and future minded as I've always seen the "X-Men" to be.

I suppose things don't become fact until they appear in an internet article so here's a recent internet article talking about the struggles of the X-Men to find a consistent readership in their first decade.

Did you read my post or just default to "my post is just another cheer for the MCU"? I said the X-Men weren't truly a hit until about late 1979 to 1980. It's not until 1979 that Chris Claremont and the X-Men were the regular annual winners of the Eagle Awards for favorite comic book and writer. The fact is that the X-Men weren't always a runaway hit from their inception in 1963.

In the above panel, "the first two" refers to Eternals and Deviants. The last experiment in which the subject is not mutated is what becomes regular human beings. This doesn't refer to the birth of X-mutants.

I read that "human" comes from the latin "humus" (or something) which means "of the earth". That itself is said to be a translation of the Hebrew word "adamah" which also means "of the earth" which comes from Adam, the first man according to the Hebrew bible. So "human" basically refers to "Adam." I wonder how "Eve" fits into all this?

I think if X-Men is renamed for the MCU, it will retain the X but be called World of X or House of X (like the Hickman series) or something. "Mutants" is too icky a word.

Eh, were the X-Men always that successful, though? I believe the X-Men, from their introduction in 1963, never really quite connected with readers and their sales were always down compared to other titles. By 1970 or so, X-Men went into reprints. I believe Giant Size X-Men #1 was one last shot at trying something new before the title got cancelled. Readership went up, so Marvel went with it. I also don't think these All New All Different X-Men and Wolverine became a phenomenon until around late 1979 or 1980, maybe half-way through the Claremont Byrne run. So maybe they were a hit from like 1980 to present-day. Also, X-Men stuck around in the present because of the Fox movies. Marvel Comics had begun the process of basically burying the X-Men in the comics and replacing them with Inhumans because Marvel Studios couldn't use them in the MCU. It's only after the Fox purchase that we've seen a resurgence in X-Men in the comics particularly with Hickman's latest reformatting of the X-brand.

No. An interviewer asked her about the future of the X-Men in the MCU and she said she wasn't sure and then added the comment about the name at the end of her answer. It could also be telling that Kevin Feige at the last onstage Comic Con appearance said "the mutants" and not X-Men.

I believe the "X-Men" name thing became a topic because Victoria Alonso, an executive producer at Marvel Studios and now a president there, said she thought the name was outdated, which could be telling for a future MCU X-Men project. I think Marvel Studios skirts the issue for the foreseeable future by simply not making an X-Men movie for a long long time. I think we'll see mutants soon, even some we know and love like Logan, Emma Frost, or Charles Xavier(yes, I think we'll see the founders first and Emma Frost is going to be a founder I think), but it'll be a while before an actual movie with "X" in it comes along. I think Marvel Studios is saving the era of mutants for the next generation of MCU fans.

You can totally discuss the "X-Men" name topic here and you can also discuss sexism in comics. What you can't do is accuse members here of being sexist. Speaking from experience here. You also totally can't discuss polit**** stuff here including naming high profile public figures. Sexism in comics isn't a politi** thing, however, and it can be discussed.

Second hand purchase. As a comparison, I believe I paid $1600 for it, so it was a nice profit. I do like my Stan Lee sigs but for that particular book, I really wanted a Roy Thomas signature as he created Carol Danvers, and I was able to get it on my other high grade MSH13 that same year.

It wasn't just an upgrade, the sale basically paid for a new transmission in my SUV after it went out. I could have got a new car, but we were attached to that SUV so we opted to save it. Heck, while I'm at it, I may as well elaborate on this story, too. So the transmission in my beloved SUV goes out about two and a half years ago. I make the decision to save the auto and get the $5,000 new transmission. I had room on my credit card. At the same time, the market value of Marvel Super Heroes #13 is skyrocketing in anticipation of the release of Captain Marvel. Being a fan, I obviously had multiple copies, including two high grade CGC slabs, one of them a 9.0 signed by Stan Lee. At the current prices, I decided to put the Stan Lee copy for sale on eBay as a Buy It Now for $5000. It sold within a few days. I put the <$5000 (after PayPal fees etc) in my checking account and paid for the new transmission with my debit card.

But I suppose my Special Marvel Edition #15 above wasn't worth much more than $200 for a raw at the time, so it wasn't a book far below FMV. I guess for that specifically, it would be when I found a copy of Fantastic Four #48 in the wild about two years ago. After the Disney-Fox merger, Fantastic Four and X-Men keys began skyrocketing. Second and Charles, the used books and collectibles chain, never got the memo and happened to put up for sale a decent raw copy of Fantastic Four #48 for $800. A relative of mine who went by there almost everyday because he worked near there informed me of the item. Naturally, I raced to the store upon hearing the news and bought it. I got it pressed and graded, it came back from CGC a 6.5, worth a little over $2000 at the time. It's now approaching $5000 in value. I'd say that's my luckiest purchase ever of a book far below FMV.

Not really movie related, but I can steer it in a timely relevant direction. I bought my copy of Special Marvel Edition #15 (1st Shang-Chi) a few years ago for $175 from my LCS. This was when there were hints that Shang-Chi might get a movie. I got the book pressed and graded, came back a 9.4 from CGC. I sold it last month(not really one I wanted to hold on to) for $2,500.

I got the same humorous vibe watching the Black Panther episode. This episode was funnier, though.

I get the joke, but still, not really. Party pooper, I know. While this episode did feature a humorous variant of the Thor we know and love, the other featured players for the most part, that is, Jane Foster, Marcy, Frigga, Captain Marvel, Nick Fury, and Maria Hill, were all pretty much the same characters from our universe. The Black Panther episode probably featured more humorous variants including Ravagers who steal for altruistic reasons and a Thanos who changed his mind about wiping out half the universe.

Definitely the funniest episode so far. And it was very very cool seeing Thor fight Captain Marvel. The fight even gave us insight into Captain Marvel’s powers that we haven’t seen before. I also feel like we hadn’t seen a good clean fisticuffs fight like this in the series since the Captain Carter episode. In fact, I say it’s the best fight we’ve seen in What If? so far.

Also from Owen Glieberman of Variety: “Dune” is a movie that earns five stars for world-building and about two-and-a-half for storytelling." That's kind of what I thought of Blade Runner 2049, but maybe even less for the storytelling. Arrival had a far better story, probably cause it's based on a single novel with a beginning middle and end.