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Kermit, raw you can get them for less than $10 on ebay - though it depends completely on how the seller markets them - try searching on "A1" (in comics) rather than "Miracleman" - there's some for sale now in the ebay stores a signed one sold here ebay Additionally, Mile High still have some in stock last time I looked at cover price buy now!

I recall there's 3 or 4 full page pin-ups inside featuring MM or MM characters - one has art by Garry Leach - but I'd have to check. It's a great book. Another nice item is this MM semi-original foreign cover - it's small but challenging series to collect

I would say it's so far under the radar it's not being picked up at all. Though my auction proven there's some interest growing. Perhaps I should email CBG or Wizard. Reasons being: Published by a UK not US publisher; Atomeka - (owned in part by Garry Leach; who was the original MM artist). Completely un-promoted due to the copyright issues with MM. Was in Previews one month only. Never advertised as a Miracleman book. It came in two versions, one featuring the Warpsmiths which was limited to 3,333 copies and two, the MM variant which was limited to 500 - all with MM & KM. A1 isn't in the guide either. But an earlier incaranation, "A1 no.1" features a Warpsmith story in the Alan Moore MM continuity.

No MM chatter for a while... so I thought I'd bump this thread up... Anyone see the MM original art on ebay recently...? MM no.11 page 1 Sold for $3,650 ! Additionally, I sold one of my pet favourite books recently that I'd had graded by CGC... A1 Sketchbook MM Variant Sold for well over $200 ! Amazing for a year old book which was bought for $10. But my spiel is sincere - this was a really over-looked book.

You should just drive down there and steal it. Book is in the MSU Private Collection and is not for loan. I've already checked that out. In that case just bring a regular 3D issue with you and make da switch! That's actually not such a bad idea! The 2D/3D one I remember went for about $150 on ebay back in the Autumn of 2002 - so this is may be a different copy? I recall it as it was just the time I was beginning to re-enter collecting - at the end of the description said very casually something like... "this is the non-3D version"... it was sold in the US to a US customer - I recall this because I emailed you Mike to say I couldn't bid-on it - as he was selling to US only. There must be copies in the UK too - as the UK price-guides list it as being "scarce" - bet Dez Skinn has one. but this is the no.1 MM rarity! $500 from me if anyone has one!

Mike, been meaning to ask - in your Overstreet report this year you mention the MM 2D/3D variant (as you know we discussed it some time ago and Chris and I are actively looking now) - you mention a collector offering $500 , assume that was me? And secondly, have you noted any being sold - you report suggests so... ? cheers

Are you saying a comic you sent to CGC actually got 'slightly' damaged by them and was then graded much lower than expected? I've always wondered if this happened. I mean if you submit a comic in 9.8 or above the TINIEST mistake could knock the grade down. Even opening it to count the pages!

I'm back and forth on this. I understand your arguement. Heck, it's perfectly logical - demand is high for collectors and readers. The only way you can read it is to buy the issues. On the other hand, I think the prices tend to keep people from buying it and seeing how wonderful it truly is (like that cheap-arse Andy ). Once the trades are available and people can read the story on the cheap, they may want to assemble the run and drive prices even higher. I think there's a pretty good track record for the real top-notch work to hold and often increase in value once reprinted. While there is a segment of the market that would be content with a trade or Absolute-style big hardback (please oh please), I think a big reason why prices aren't higher than they are is due to lack of exposure people have to the books. You can find the first few issues pretty easily, but the series really doesn't take off until after that. I think that of the segment whose first complete reading will be in TPB form, there will be a large percentage who say,"Now I see what all the fuss is about, I want the original issues," and then there could be an upswing. If new books ever come out, and they tie into the originals, new key issues, 1st apps, etc., could become more sought after. Agree with all of the above - the added dimension is precisely WHAT is re-printed (i.e. just the Moore issues or everything - including all the DVD type stuff) OR whether brand new stories are published. I think if The Silver Age is completed, 23 and 24 would sky-rocket. There's also Miracleman Triumphant that was written and pencilled - the Marvel UK stuff and much more in fanzines. But people will always want the originals. Well, I do at least - copies both to read again and again - and copies to gaze admiringly at through very expensive plastic!

Maybe YOU won't, but I have 5 raw 9.4's and 2 raw 9.6's that wait silently for the MM explosion that is destined to come Ask October(Andy), he's seen them. SHARP, SHARP, SHARP K I KNEW you were going to chime in when he said that! Yes, I have seen them and yes, they are VERY sharp. I don't remember if I looked at them closely, but I do recall they were all at least NM. Was one of those in the batch you set aside after the pre-screen? As I carefully thumb through my HORDE of FUNNYBOOKS, I sense....yes I can feel it.....1 stunning copy of MM #23 soon to be sent off to CGC and returned to me as the CREME DE LA CREME....THE HIGHEST GRADED...THE TOP CENSUS COPY PUT IT ON THE BOARRRRD......YES!!!!! This cannot be allowed to happen! But how sharp is sharp??? Could you shave with it??? Perhaps you should try!

The Silver Age was scripted up to Issue 26. According to the interviews in the Kimota book, the final book would be set in the far future and called The Dark Age... somewhat more appealing than the McFarlane Age!

Here's some recent ebay action for RAW copies... MM 15 VF $117 MM 15 NM $102 MM 15 NM $102 MM 15 NM $100 MM 15 CGC 8.0 $77 MM 15 VF $76 MM 15 NM $75 MM 15 NM $70 MM 15 VF $60 MM 15 FN $47 MM 15 FN $32 others.... $460 MM 1-24 NM $330 MM 1-24 NM $306 Book 3 TPB NM $295 MM 1-24 NM $290 Book 1-4 TPB NM $240 Book 3 TPB VF $240 MM 1-24 FN $189 Book 1 Hardback NM $185 Book 1-4 Hardback (facsimiles!) $150 Warrior 1-26 FN I was amazed someone would pay $185 for what were essentially photo-copies! (Though nicely done!)

Only problem is that there seems to be an absolute ton of high grade copies out there with 180 copies showing up on the CGC census with a good number of these 9.4 and higher. The scarce notation in the OS guide for this book is totally misleading and should really be deleted. Any idea what the GPA numbers are for this book? There are a lot of no.15s graded yes (12 in 9.8!) - but IMO that's due to the 'bandwagoning' around the book. no.15 originally became very popular simply because of the power and brilliance of the STORY - then that high demand created artificial scarcity - thus the eventual price-rise - and the "scarce" label has stuck ever since. I think around 12,000 were printed - so it's hardly rare but it certainly has 'relative' scarcity to the earlier issues in the run. (i.e. no.1 had 125,000 printed). No.16, all the Golden Age issues and especially 23 and 24 had even smaller print-runs than no.15. Try getting no.23 above 9.4 - you won't! No.23 and 24 will shoot up if The Silver age is ever completed.

Does he? Was this yours? I bought my #15 (raw) from him, maybe I'll trade up in B'more. Any idea what he's asking? Do you know what books he's interested in so's I can make a trade? PM me if you do. There's a MM no.15 in CGC 9.8 on ebay now with a BIN of just $299 - looks like a good seller too. I think that's a very reasonable price and would buy it myself if I hadn't just bought one from someone else (for $450!) MM no.15 CGC 9.8 p.s. my mid-grade run of MM 1-24 sold for £112 / $260 - not too bad...

You can still buy Warrior issues direct from the publisher for between £5 and £15 a copy - see here - Quality site However, getting really high-grade copies is very difficult (i.e. above 9.0) - most are in the FN / VF range. But it's an excellent series and the birth of our said character of course. Even rarer are the three UK Marvel issues - Marvel Super Heroes 387 & 388 Daredevils 7 which all featured pre-Miracleman appearances of Miracleman - in name and body!

no.23 - you're right, definitely - no.23 is very difficult in super-high grade. It's that purple cover and the fact that a lot of issues had printing defects such as siamese pages and inner over-hang. So good buy! No. 23 and no.24 are well under-priced in OS and Wizard - and if The Silver Age is ever completed will jump massively in price. Anyway, these are the grades to date - Miracleman 1 174 graded, 19 in 9.8 Miracleman 2 58 graded, 29 in 9.8 Miracleman 3 43 graded, 13 in 9.8 Miracleman 4 36 graded, 7 in 9.8 Miracleman 5 16 graded, 5 in 9.8 Miracleman 6 11 graded, 2 in 9.8 Miracleman 7 9 graded, 1 in 9.8 Miracleman 8 7 graded, 2 in 9.6 Miracleman 9 16 graded, 2 in 9.8 Miracleman 10 9 graded, 1 in 9.6 Miracleman 11 11 graded, 2 in 9.8 Miracleman 12 24 graded, 4 in 9.8 Miracleman 13 36 graded, 5 in 9.8 Miracleman 14 38 graded, 1 in 9.8 Miracleman 15 180 graded, 12 in 9.8 Miracleman 16 25 graded, 5 in 9.6 Miracleman 17 13 graded, 2 in 9.8 Miracleman 18 2 graded, 1 in 9.0 Miracleman 19 4 graded, 1 in 9.8 Miracleman 20 8 graded, 3 in 9.8 Miracleman 21 3 graded, 1 in 9.4 Miracleman 22 9 graded, 1 in 9.8 Miracleman 23 6 graded, 3 in 9.4 Miracleman 24 22 graded, 1 in 9.8

Birth issue - no, but I almost certainly would have bought it. There's only 2 in 9.8. How much did it sell for? p.s. got the three 9.8s I bought through the post yesterday. The no. 17 looks completely flawless even to the micro-scopic level (and I know what 9.8's are like). However, the CGC case is seems slightly warped. The no. 15 is nearly as good but honestly other than the absence of a tiny printing smear near the upper staple it's not at all different from my 9.6 - which I bought 3 years ago. Irritating, again the CGC presentation has flaws - the top label is printed badly. The no.20 is perfect, but AGAIN the CGC case has defects - things that really kind of spoil them - there's 'flakes' inside (inside the inner well) and the seal has come loose on on side. BTW the packaging was adequate so I don't think this happened in transit. So overall, the books are excellent but the CGC presentation a little disssapointing. Don't get me wrong I love CGC books and respect their grading - but these little 'presentation' errors are irritating. Still, just also bought a no. 16 in 9.6. There's no 9.8's to date!

I'd seen this lot previously - the problem is the rest of the bulk is generally unsaleable - so $150 all to England would be slightly too much. Still, I'd like to have those books. In terms of earlier post, I just bought another near complete set for around $200 - probably over-priced considering they're likely to be in the FN-VF range only. We'll see.The lot I sold for $460 on reflection was probably some of the nicest copies I've seen in a long time. I regret selling the no.20 variant a little. I also just bought 15,17 and 20 in CGC 9.8 for close to $845. Expensive I know, but I want a super high-grade run!

FYI - The complete set I was selling closed at an amazing £229.99 (about $460) !!! This was quite a bit more than I expected! But they were nice copies. Fortunately, the buyer also paid immediately and emailed me to say.... "Miracleman arrived this morning and I just wanted to say how pleased I am with them. The packaging was brilliant (took me 10 minutes to get in to them!) and they are in amazing condition" Looks like MM is hotting up... again...

I know - am quite pleased so far. This was actually a set I "found" - someone was selling 650 modern comics and I just happened to notice it contained a Miracleman run buried in the description in addition to loads of other stuff. Nice copies too. I'd never sell MY own original owner set. I remember buying Miracleman 1 for 60p back in 1985 at age 13 - in fact, it's probably more or less 20 years ago to the day since MM 1 was released (August 1985 cover date). It was my first "real" comic that I bought as a collector rather than a child if you can appreciate the distinction. I'm now putting together a CGC 9.6 and above collection of all the series. As well as all the fanzine appearances, promo's and impossible variants as we well know!

indeed, the prices seem to be going well at present I've actually got a nice set for sale now - including a printing-variant edition of no.20 (which I'm probably going to regret selling!) Miracleman full set - no reserve! feel free to bid!

MM is simply the best modern comic ever created. If cash is limited - you can look out for the e-book versions - I got the whole series off ebay for $10.

I think "The End at Last" has a real good point here - and somewhat cynically in Metro's position, it's probably what any business person would contrive to do. The ultimate expression of supply and demand - utterly minimal supply, massive and well documented demand... so yes, possibly a mistake for Ian to trust these boards with his quest in the first place. Which is a shame, because it was and still is genuinely fascinating. However, it does concern me that someone could get SO obsessed about completing a collection. I don't know Ian personally, but I observed him "at work" on Sunday and I could instantly tell we had someone who was extremely driven, blindly self-important (and I don't mean that nastily) and highly expectant of others to subscribe to his agenda (three key attributes for success in the music business no doubt). But what happens when the quest is complete? Will these boards be picking up the pieces of a man suffering from the biggest anti-climax in his life? Where does Ian go then? I hope Ian does get his way in this case, but one wonders what would have happened if Double Action 2 - or even Buzzy 70, or any comic only had ONE copy in existence... or perhaps even, none at all...

I've been back into comics in a big way for over a year now - my first "age of collecting" being between 1985 and 1990 (and by god, I have some fantastically valuable treasures from then!). So now at 30, with 8 years working experience in customer service I really wonder how many dealers get by. Collecting in England is reasonable - we have some great specialist shops (and some utterly dreadful ones) and regular Comic "Marts" across the country. However, I sense there's often an air of predictability / desperation / abject misery when I visit a Mart. Let me paint a picture of a recent comic mart (in London): Walk into half-decrepit public building. Overwhelmed by all-engulfing smell of body odour and musty newsprint. The dealers, seemingly super-glued to their respective patches remain in the same location time after time (maybe they never leave?). Each presenting the same old stock: low grade [!@#%^&^] in filthy plastic bags, 300 comics crammed in a box only big enough to fit 200 in. (Luckily I brought my pliers). The good stuff stuck to the wall behind requiring binoculars to examine them in any detail. I move on... the great unwashed frantically feed on the 50p boxes... I join them... ask the dealer if he has anything interesting? Receive grunt in response. Etc etc... but there is hope! One dealer had cottoned on to the basics of good customer service... a friendly welcome... clean and well-presented stock. Fresh bags and boards. Items worth buying! CGC is a real godsend for the UK. Dealers are as notorious for over-grading as they are for over-pricing here - at least now we have a 3rd party for the former - and I for one, am happy to pay that difference. So how is it for everyone else? Or is the US much more advanced? Personally, I think, most private ebay sellers sell better, grade better, communicate better - all of it - than the people actually in the business professionally. Why?