EwanUK

Miracleman #15 seems to have 2 covers. The regular one and one where the inks are not right.

 

I have seen them both in 9.8 so I know it does not effect the grade, but I was wondering what the ratio was? Are they evenly split or is the error more rare?

sorry please show?

Beautiful display!!! I'm glad it found a good home!

Now, Joe Rock... If and when you ever decide to let it go, let me know.... I'm your guy!

 

Congrats on a great addition to your collection!

 

 

.....and Ewan.... What ever happened to that signed copy pictured at the beginning of this thread?

I sold that copy several years ago. I think it only sold for about £80 as the market was much less developed then.

If I can be indulged in another advert, a few more MM rarities on ebay now and later tonight which I think may be liked in thread...

First I wanna thank Ewan for taking my money....book is beautiful. I've been wanting this book for a good while, I love the cover. Not to rub salt in your wounds CountZero, but it's in a good home and looks great on my Shelf of Moore;) Ewan, will you be listing another copy of Arken Sword 10 in the near future?

My pleasure. That looks wonderful - glad you're pleased with the book. Always happy to sell to the big collectors.

Yes, you mean Ark 10 with the V cover? I do have one more copy yes.

Just arrived... The latest addition to my MM family...

 

 

 

 

Never seen that before! Details pls?

Is it a self-printed version?

Hi Guys, Derek here

Just had to step in here to clear the air slightly.

As you say Ewan I was the underbidder, I think I gave you that info.

Unfortunately I did not secure the comic as several people have suspected; I will complete the tale..............

The seller contacted me to say that the sale had been cancelled and whether I was interested in a second chance offer. I agreed to pay the equivalent of my final bid, assuming the last bid was cancelled and he initially agreed.

I asked for more pictures of the comic via my email address and he made excuses as to why he couldn't send more photos, claiming that he didn't want to damage the comic by handling.

Here is where it gets strange; the seller now started making excuses as to why he now wanted to back off the sale completely and re-list the comic later, even though I pointed out that only 2 buyers were prepared to bid so generously, but he still backed off and refused to sell.

He now doesn't answer my emails and MM 26 hasn't been re-listed, even though he is still selling comics at 99p.

I don't know where he got the photo of 26 from but I now firmly believe that it was a scam and he didn't have the comic to sell.

I only hope I am wrong as it is the only copy I have ever seen and you are correct Jonathan, I have 721 / 722 MM; YM; MMF comics and all 20 Annuals, so this issue was rather important for me.

Maybe another will turn up eventually but I won't hold my breath.

Wow... that's just incredible Derek. I can't imagine why he'd take it elsewhere as between the 3 of us he isn't going to get any higher price.

I don't think it's a scam either. There was no Marvelman 26 photo ANYWHERE on the web.

Very, very strange though.

We can watch for the major sites though.

Anyway, Derek, nice to hear from you. Thought it was you. Who else!

 

And...there they go... I was out bid on both of them...

Ah but you won some nice items too - and further rarities to come soon...

All my main MM items were bought by big fans outside the UK... how about Miracle Exporter for my board name?

p.s. very happy with the prices on each - FE 5 2nd highest to date, Fusion 2 the highest

Paying for my son's room decoration - so lots of wife related brownie-points

Show up often but made in quantities of 5? Something is off with that statement me thinks.

I meant the facsimiles themselves rather than individual issues. Byron made copies of 100s of different books (all British 1950s / early 1960s titles). About a third of all Marvelman issues have copies out there.

Can anyone tell me what these are? I am thinking modern reprints but I can't find a date on the inside and they are not in Overstreet. Cover says 1953 but the paper is slick and Bright white.

 

 

 

 

 

 

If the insides are bright white modern(ish) paper then they are exact facsimiles manufactured in the UK in very small numbers (about 5 each) by a chap called Byron Whitworth in the early 90s

They turn up quite regularly and I have bought them by mistake on ebay as the covers are photocopies of the original comics - so look real from a distance.

Hi all

Discussed fanzines and much more are now on ebay

Assume I get special dispensation for saying this since I discovered most of them, if not apologies

Contemplating selling my 300+ L Miller Marvelman's too as my "man-cave" is being turned into my younger son's bedroom so I have to down-size...

Yes, bring on the next batch... i.e - fantasy express no.5 and fusion fanzines.... And another issue of arken sword 17....

Hi, they'll be listed either this thurs 23rd or next 30th - I have FE no.5 and Fusion no.2 definitely ready - plus some others, like Eclipse Extra, you may appreciate

BTW, that's the first time I've ever seen an Eclipse-era MM sweatshirt! Another very rare item! I didn't think it existed!

Where are all the rarities at?

I'm sure someone out there has something....

 

http://www.figurerealm.com/viewcustomfigure.php?FID=51490

 

http://www.comicnoize.com/tag/miracleman/

 

The Alan Davis Kimota t-shirt is extremely rare!!! I have only ever seen one, so snap one up if you see it for sale.

There was also a double-MM t-shirt from Eclipse which is slightly less rare as I've seen two!!!

I have several MM fanzines listed now and more coming up soon...

If anyone out there could help me out with these rarities, I would be very grateful...

 

Fantasy Express No.5

Elektra Magazine No.2

Comics International No.128

Eclipse Extra No.44

Speakeasy No.68

Miracleman No.1 UK Edition

Miracleman Book 3 HB/HC

 

Naturally, I would love any or all of these NM/VF condition, but anything close would be great either way.... Let me know!

 

 

Hi I have all of these in nice condition with the exception of Elektra and Book 3

They will be coming up for sale on ebay in due course...

And much more too... I am downsizing a lot of MM stuff

Here's my latest addition. En Italiano! This thing is huge, approx. 11''x15''.

I have no idea how rare this book is. Any facts on the Italian printings would be greatly appreciated.

 

I'm guessing you got it off ebay from a guy in Italy, right? I did, too. No idea how many he has, but I've never seen them anywhere but from him.

 

 

Yes, I did. Very cheap from blackrain2004.

 

Hi, I know this thread is pretty old, but what Italian edition are you referencing? Is it the Super Comics No.19 ?

Hi again

yes Super Comics no.19 & no.20 1992 from "Max Bunker Press" - it reprints Book 1 in a really nice format, in Italian of course

Elektra 2 is an Italian fanzine - I've only ever seen 2 copies, the front cover art is a detail from Arken Sword 17/18 "Devilswrack" - the only Miracleman strip published outside of Eclipse / Marvel

Portions of the Eclipse run were published in varying formats in France, Spain, Italy, Portugal and Brazil

There is supposed to a German reprint too but I have never seen it

Hi all, purely for interest, here's a selection of Miracleman rarities that I've unearthed over the last few years....

 

Starting with Fantasy Express no.5 - unbelievably rare 1983 fanzine which predates Miracleman by two years. Unique "Alan Moore as Marvelman" cover by Alan Davis. What's more this copy is signed by Alan!

 

 

Super-rare Italian Fanzine 'Elektra' - another Alan Davis cover based on the Ark no.20 strip

 

 

Brazillian editions!!!

 

 

 

Original 1982 Warrior Badges

 

 

more to follow....

 

Warrior had a button of the iconic Watchmen Happy Face in 1982?

No sorry, the Watchmen one was the later badge from 1986 (though is still pretty rare). That photo was actually pulled from ebay many years back.

Collecting Warriors badges is extremely SLOW - I have managed just 8 in 10 years as follows...

Miracleman Logo badge

Young Miracleman Logo badge

Kid Miracleman Logo badge

Kimota! Logo badge

Warpsmith badge (x2)

Pressbutton badge

& (Badge R)

Both Watchmen and V for Vendetta have so many rip-offs, copies and modern versions that finding originals is next to impossible. Have had 2 or 3 Watchmen but never a V one.

Dez told me they were manufactured in their 1000s though... assume most got disposed of

Origina Titan / Forbidden Planet 2000ADs badges are also tough to find...

It's an interesting diversion...

p.s. loving the MM 1 UK 9.8s very nice

I still have my double-cover no.1, unfortunately not a UK version...

Actually, it looks like the under-bidder was Derek - just worked it out

So he now has the full set, a pretty amazing achievement!

I think we might see Marvel reprint this in a up-coming issue of Miracleman

I do love it when the industry's ill-informed sites try and make stories out of unique ebay sales (another example being when I sold the equally- unique Alan Moore Utopia fanzine earlier in the year)

This is not like a seller finding an Action 1 or Spider-man 1 - I would expect the seller would be absolutely thrilled with the price it went for. Amazed even! He sold it with a Soccer Album (£10.51) and 1952 Saint Comic (£7.39). He probably thought it might be worth a fiver at most.

How do you put market value on something so unique? I would've gone to £1,500 and I'm one of about 5 major Marvelman collector's in the world.

I have 456 of the 751 issues available (61%). I began collecting Marvelman fully in 2009. I'd say 400 of the issues were bought in the first 3 years, all off ebay.

Of the remaining ones I need (285) I usually locate about 1 or 2 a month now. Most from UK, but other copies from Australia, USA & Germany.

Many of the issues I have NEVER seen, or once only, probably about 50 I've been outbid on or missed...

By series -

Marvelman 187 of 349 (earliest no.31) notable gaps 50-80, 202-210

Young Marvelman 239 of 349 (earliest no.29, though 26,27 & 28 have all been on ebay). I have most issues 29-100, notable gap 200-210 strangely

Family 17 of 30 (earliest no.1) all issues very rare

Magic 4 of 4

Annuals 9 of 19

Derek has 750 of 751 unless he bought no.26

The most I've paid was for the MF 1 - which was only £150 and it's a nice FN/FN+ and was going to be used for Marvel's MF book until it got pulled

Crikey what a tale...

I was the third under-bidder, I'd assumed one of the others would be Derek but unsure

The seller DEFINITELY didn't know what he had but as the auction started I bet at least 5 of us emailed him to pull the book and "sell to me" !

As I say, I went to about £1,100 but £2,500 is far too much even if I could afford it

I doubt very much another no.26 will appear, certainly not anytime soon. no.25 when sold never did - I think there's more than 2 copies (maybe 5) but all these early Miller titles are super, super rare

I think it's great that a copy has surfaced though, and from an original owner in Wales too ! How bizarre

Love the appropriate story title too

Did you all see the Marvelman no.26 auction on ebay?

This was the copy thought to not exist

Marvelman 26

I was outbid by about £1,500!!!

Anyone knows who got it?

Have been having a lengthy Miracleman vacation (mostly brought on by a sulk about multiple Marvel covers) but predictably I'm now back...

I understand we're on no.6 now? I see on ebay there appear to be at least 4 or 5 different covers to each issue - plus some convention specials?

Does anyone know what each of them are please? and what the "ratio's" are?

And why are there so few graded copies?

Has it sold well? All the back issues seem to have sold out at my LCS.

Back on the original run, are there any new 9.9s? There were previously no.12, no.15 and no.17 ?

thanks guys - new fanzine finds coming soon

Hmmm, little worried about the lack of posts here in over a week (0), with #1 coming out tomorrow. Did people forget or lose interest? I don't buy moderns but will be picking up a copy tomorrow.

I thought the same.... as normally a very passionate Miracleman fan for nearly 30 years I find myself a bit removed from this Marvel relaunch. Maybe because it has taken so, so long... maybe because it's essentially just reprints... or maybe it's all those silly Marvel variant covers trying to seduce me...

Hmm

While I anticipate no.25 I can't help but be turned off by this churning money machine with it's glossy paper and computerised colouring...

Maybe it's all just another one of Gargunza's dreams...

Still, I'll probably buy a copy

Ok I have have merged the three lists and added any more details I had on the comic shop noted on certificates.

 

Miracleman #1 with "Gold" certificate, signed by Alan Moore and numbered (total of 400):-

Key:- [ ]=comic shop noted on certificate; blank=none

 

002 Have pic(s) [Looks blank but small pic]

011 Front page of Comic Buyers Guide #1535

040 mycomicshop.com - have pic(s) [blank]

055 ebay - have pic(s) [blank]

057 from fourcolorheroes.com - have pic(s) [blank]

090 CGC 9.4 #0759595004 - have pic(s) [blank]

113 Have pic(s) [blank]

116 Have pic(s) [blank]

117 CGC 9.6 #0979887001

122 ebay, comicopolis - have pic(s) [blank]

123 CGC 9.0 #0714931001 - have pic(s) [American Comics]

124 ebay, comicopolis - have pic(s) [blank]

128 ebay, comicopolis [blank] & questionable PGX copy [blank]- have pic(s) of both

131 Have pic(s) [blank]

134 CGC 9.8 #0198245001 originally from ebay, comicopolis raw - have pic(s) [blank]

139 Have pic(s) [blank]

141 CGC 9.8 #0192301002 - owned by mschmidt - have pic(s)

162 Owned by mschmidt from mycomicshop.com - have pic(s) [blank]

169 Have pic(s) [blank]

179 Have pic(s) [sunrise Comics]

181 CGC 9.8 #1006822002 [blank]

182 CGC 9.6 #1000183001

184 CGC 9.8 #1006822001 [blank]

185 CGC 9.8 [sunrise Comics]

187 CGC 9.8 #0186693003 originally from ebay, comicopolis raw - have pic(s) [blank]

188 From fourcolorheroes.com - have pic(s) [sunrise Comics]

190 Owned by mschmidt - have pic(s) [blank]

191 CGC 9.2 #1006822003 - have pic(s) [sunrise Comics]

217 CGC 9.6 #0750997011

226 CGC 9.8 [blank]

242 CGC 9.4 #1035897001

268 Have pic(s) [blank]

271 [blank]

298 ebay / mycomicshop.com - have pic(s) [blank]

315 CGC 9.6 #1056931007 - have pic(s) [blank]

322 ebay / mycomicshop.com - have pic(s)

353 ebay, comic & card central - have pic(s) [sunrise Comics]

359 CGC 9.4 #0747447001 / Heritage raw originally

385 CGC 9.4 #0214635002

391 [Fact, Fiction & Fantasy]

394 Have pic(s) [Fact, Fiction & Fantasy]

 

 

many thanks

It's impressive that so many have survived - and since been graded

are the comic shops noted still in existence?

interesting they are not given sequential copies

the no.11/400 - quoting from CBG Apr 2003

"A Golden Miracleman… Rare Variant Sells For $1,500" by Michael Browning. News of Excalibur Books and Comics of Portland, Ore, USA selling Miracleman no.1 Gold 11/400 to an unnamed collector for $1,500".

This is where Overstreet pulled it's value from believe it or not! Are hasn't changed since...

The article actually pictures gold cert entitled "American Comics", "Ray Johnson 9/30/85". It is copy 360/400. So there's another one....

It's interesting 3 of us were doing the same thing !

This is my (shorter) list which has a few additionals

the text refers to the comic shop noted on the certificates - have you guys kept this info on yours ("Blank" is obviously when there is no comic shop mentioned)

can we come up with a master list?

A lot of them have survived haven't they!

057 / 400 Blank (4 Color)

113 / 400 Blank

116 / 400 Blank

123 / 400 "American Comics" graded CGC 9.0

128 / 400 Blank

131 / 400 Blank

134 / 400 Blank graded CGC 9.8

169 / 400 Blank

179 / 400 "Sunrise Comics" £435 Oct 2013

181 / 400 Blank graded CGC 9.6

184 / 400 Blank graded CGC 9.8

185 / 400 "Sunrise Comics" CGC 9.8

187 / 400 Blank

188 / 400 "Sunrise Comics" (4 Color)

226 / 400 Blank graded CGC 9.8

271 / 400 Blank

315 / 400 Blank

353 / 400 "Sunrise Comics"

391 / 400 "Fact, Fiction & Fantasy"

I would think the same. Maybe they will pad out the series to ensure they reach the magic numbers and maybe reprint Miracleman #1 3D as #8 as that does have an overall Moore narrative "Saturday Morning Pictures" (but does reprint non-Moore material around it). There is also the "Yesterday Gambit" story from Warrior #4/Summer Special so that could maybe make an appearance as well.

 

OK, from Cory Sedlmeier, the editor working on this project:

 

"Earlier issues will have some variance between Eclipse's numbering and ours. We're including the three Warpsmith solo stories and Warrior #4 so our breaks aren't going to be exactly the same. By the time we get to issue #9 they will line up with the Eclipse numbering and be the same from there on."

 

Hope that helps.

thanks Hari - that's interesting to know

If Cory wants any rare fanzine content to publish as pin-ups etc happy to help

Perhaps the cover of Fantasy Express no.5 (or maybe not )

Reprinting the Warpsmiths (assume Cold War Cold Warrior Parts 1 & 2 and Ghostdance from A1) shows they must have got Garry Leach on-side. Does Marvel now "own" Warpsmith?

Any plans for Apocrypha?

No new Gaiman material until 2016.

 

What!? Now what's going on?

 

They're reprinting the entire run, which presumably includes #8 (which had no new material). That gives them 24 issues worth to get through before new stuff. I did see that 2 issues were solicited for January, so maybe they'll get there faster. The linked article also offers 2016 as the start date for new stuff, but he also says that might be post-Gaiman and Buckingham.

 

Let's say for example that we were looking at some time in 2016 as a possible date for the continuation of MM's stories beyond Neil and Bucky.

 

I'm not sure how many more issues of The Silver Age and The Dark Age were originally intended and how many of those the guys still want to tell. Both gentlemen are at different places in their careers and lives now, and may not have the same creative vision they were working on in 1993.

 

Issue #8 won't be reprinted, as there is no new material there. And it is true they are doing two issues in January just to launch, but then it goes monthly. I have 14 covers and pages from the original run that I let Marvel scan for the re-release. So, all this information comes straight from the editors.

 

Best,

If no issue no.8, will no.9 take its place?

I would've thought it's imperiative to maintain the original numbering as it's part of the folklore - i.e. the big deal about Marvelmiracleman no.15?

not only that, but the biggest seller no.25?

Hmmm something fishy here:

 

Exhibit #1

 

Exhibit #2

 

Both #128/400, at least one must be a forgery...

indeed, the PGX one looks like a forgery - the certificate certainly

note how the 128/400 is not seen on the Moore-signed page

I think there are other copies out there too