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    Question: Savvy Boardie Investor

    in Comics General

    Posted

    11 minutes ago, Tony S said:

    I'm not quite so critical.... Let's discuss though.

    Marvel Super-Heroes 13 is the first appearance of Carol Danvers. NOT of Ms Marvel, not of Captain Marvel.  Historically, the first appearance of a supporting character that later on goes on to be a popular super hero or super villain has NOT been the most expensive book. The most expensive book is normally their first appearance as a costumed character.  Something that Marvel Super-Heroes has going for it is that it was published in 1968. When comic book collecting was in it's infancy.  The first Overstreet Comic Book Price Guide was not published until 1970. Also, the book cost 25 cents when the regular price of comics was 12 cents. PROBABLY did not sell a huge number of copies. 

    Ms Marvel 1 is the first appearance of Carol Danvers as the costumed super hero Ms Marvel.  1977.  Comic fandom is now young, but established. Collectors ROUTINELY bought extra copies of Marvel and to a lesser degree DC first issues.  But this book was a bit off putting to collectors at the time with it's feminist underpinnings. It's clear looking around that a book like Black Panther 1 - a Kirby book to boot - probably sold much better.  So as first issue from 1977, this might not have generated a huge number as far as sales. 

    Now as to the future. It's pretty clear Marvel/Disney intends to make Captain Marvel a big deal going forward. Whatever the next set of movies is going forward, this version of Captain Marvel is going to be a part of. 

    Personally, I see nothing wrong with holding onto either or both of these books. The Carol Danvers version of Captain Marvel is going to be prominent and important in future Marvel movies -  including at least one sequel of her own. However, the quick and easy money has already been made.  If you bought these cheap years ago and want to take a profit, now is probably a reasonable time.  But I DO NOT see prices going down. They will hold steady, most likely have modest increases going forward. 

    I see other Ms Marvel/Captain Marvel books with more upside.  Captain Marvel 18 - where Carol Danvers obtains super powers - still appears over looked.  And while I very, very much prefer "vintage" books as investments over moderns, I am pretty certain that Captain Marvel #1 from 2012 is way cheap.  Carol Danvers made her debut as "Captain Marvel" in Avenging Spider-Man #9. That books sells for good money. But seriously. It came out just ONE WEEK before Captain Marvel #1.  And there really isn't much to the story.  Captain Marvel #1 is the beginning of Carol assuming the mantel of Captain Marvel. And it's cheap. Really, really cheap.  The number of copies is similar. According to Comichron (they get their numbers from Diamond) Avenging Spider-Man 9 sold 39,000 copies, Captain Marvel #1 46,900.  Both of these numbers are way, way less than the likely sales of MSH 13 or Ms. Marvel 1 (1977) 

    So if one is looking to make money buying the current, in the movies Captain Marvel books, these new books seem to have potential. With the #1 of Captain Marvel the most potential, as it is very inexpensive at this time. 


     

    Interesting, I hear people (mostly dealers in my area) also say that Cap Marvel will be the face of the MCU moving forward. To be honest, I can’t see that - but what do I know?! Did Feige said something to that effect? 

    I agree with your assessment that the Kelly Sue Deconick run from 2012 is undervalued - great read too! Unfortunately, it is a tough spec because CGC’s label points to Avenging SM as the money book. The reality is, a lot of people don’t read their comics anymore!

    I kept my mid grade copy of Ms Marvel 1 but sold my 6.5 raw MSH13. I found it irresponsible of me not to cash out during the hype. Now that the hype has calmed down, prices appeared to have plateaud as well - and all the rabid buyers (mostly speculators) have moved on to the next book to spec on.

    I’m just hoping that people who bought MSH13 and MM1 in the last 30days and paid FMV have the intention on keeping their copies - eBay is flooded with copies right now.  

     

    Question: Savvy Boardie Investor

    in Comics General

    Posted

    Question for the savvy investor: What is the staying power of Marvel Superheroes 13 and Ms. Marvel 1?

    Captain Marvel movie has been out for almost 2 weeks now and I just don’t get the sense that people should be holding on to these for investment purposes. Unlike Black Panther, which is beloved by not only the Afro community but also the general public. 

    Im not trying to be political or SJW here. I love super hero movies (both DC and Marvel) but this is just my observation. 

    Thanks!

     

    Giant-Size X-Men #1 - get it now?

    in Bronze Age Comic Books

    Posted

    2 hours ago, Lazyboy said:

    There's a big difference between new demand and increased market activity from flippers.

    Increase in prices are driven by demand. Flippers are affecting prices through increased flipping activities. I agree, some of this may not be “new demand” but it is affecting market prices - similar to how a flock of new collectors are all of a sudden a big fan of GSXM1. 

    Giant-Size X-Men #1 - get it now?

    in Bronze Age Comic Books

    Posted

    12 hours ago, Lazyboy said:

    Key words in bold.

    Do you live in some alternate reality in which the X-Men haven't been in the public eye for nearly two decades with regular movie releases? The supply isn't going to shrink beyond normal, nominal attrition, so sustainable price increases (not just blowing up the speculation bubble even more) will have to be due to an increase in demand. Where is the new demand going to come from if it somehow hasn't been created over the last two decades?

    I honestly believe the new demand will come from the increased amount of flipping amongst flippers. You know, the hot potato game. This happens all the time when a book gets hot due to movie speculation. 

    Overpriced 1st appearances

    in Comics General

    Posted

    5 hours ago, ComicConnoisseur said:

    Speaking of vilians,which makes me realize if I had to name some overpriced first appearance,than it be of Darkseid.

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    Mainstream people would just think of Darkseid as a Thanos rip-off. Yeah I know Darkseid came first,but mainstream doesn't.

    Plus does anybody really want to see the Thanos story retold again with Darkseid replacing him on the screen? Do we really want to see Justice League take on Darkseid for like 5 DC movies?

    I am betting most would say no.

    So yeah my pick would be first Darkseid who unfortunately would now be considered a poor man`s Thanos to the rest of the world.

    :insane:

     

    Good point. Kevin Feige beat DCEU to the punch here. I’m not even sure what can DCEU offer us geeks that the MCU hasn’t. 

    X-Men 1, a risky buy?

    in Silver Age Comic Books

    Posted

    1 hour ago, HuddyBee said:

    This might be true, but if you compare the registry its know where close. Just look at Showcase 4 v Amazing Fantasy 15 or Showcase 22 v Fantastic Four 1, or really any dc key to a marvel key. AF 15 - 3106 on census, Showcase 4 - 463 on census, FF 1 - 2194, SC 22 - 992. Way less DC. Just go to a con its almost all expensive overpriced marvel. 

     

     

    I agree, marvel keys are expensive. DC keys, not so much. I can understand why DC keys are attractive to an “investor” point of view. To each his own.  

    X-Men 1, a risky buy?

    in Silver Age Comic Books

    Posted

    8 hours ago, HuddyBee said:

    Honestly, look at the market, and you'll see the cheapest books w/ potential are silver age DC, with the DCEU not doing so hot their books aren't either. DC books are cheap and have just as much potential as marvel keys, but since the movies suck, the books aren't worth much. But with the DCEU doing a little better w/ the success of Aquaman and the surge we saw in his books, people might start considering investing in DC.

    I know a lot of people who speculated on DC keys (minor keys too) that got burned. Aquaman and Wonder Woman are both fun films to watch but the DCEU needs some sort of direction on where their movie universe is going. I'm not sure what DCEU can do that the MCU hasn't done yet. 

    Giant CA/MA Sales Thread! ASM's, Spider-Verse, X-Men - Now Discounted! - RECAP on Page 32

    in Copper / Modern Age Only

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    Amazing Spider-Man #328 NM 9.4 $8.00 $6.00 $5.00

    Uncanny X-Men #115 VF+ 8.5 $18.00 $16.00

    Uncanny X-Men #239 NM (9.4) 2nd Mr Sinister, #240 (9.2/9.4) Inferno, 243 (9.0) Inferno $11.00 $10.00 $9.00

    Amazing Spider-Man Annual #19 NM- 9.2 $5.00 $4.00 $3.00

    Uncanny X-Men #181 NM/NM+ 9.4/9.6 $5.00

    Uncanny X-Men #214 (9.2) & #215 (9.0) & 216 (9.0) & 217 (9.2) $7.00

    Uncanny X-Men #235 (9.4) 1st Genosha & 237 (9.4/9.6) $7.00

    Uncanny X-Men #245 (9.2), 246 (9.0) & 247 (9.2) $6.00

    Uncanny X-Men Annual #10 NM 9.4 signed by Art Adams $7.00 $6.00

    :takeit: per PM

    Seeding bins at a convention - how do you do it?

    in Comics General

    Posted

    1 hour ago, blazingbob said:

    A Dealer is a "customer" just like everybody else.  Only difference is that I paid for a booth to get in early.  My shopping hours are before the show opens.  I don't have the luxury of shopping during the show hours for long periods of time.  So basically you are losing me as a "customer".  I spend lots of money if the material is priced fairly.  In all of the years I've been doing business dealers outspend retail customers at least 10 - 1.  So that one book you sell to the retail customer you might have sold me 9 others.  Try to put away your "resentment" of all the good deals being gone before you set up on the other side of the table.

    The other thing to consider is that when customers are coming to a show there is no "first shot".  Everything is on my website,  the first "shot" guy can go to my website and reserve books long before the show opens.  If the "good deal" is gone it is because you didn't go to my website first.

    I don't hide books in boxes.  

    The "Seeding good books in boxes game" only works if everyone is "playing" and knows who is doing it.

    I am not a dealer but I used to frequent comic shows and are friendly to the local dealers in my area. Every time I go to shows, I always ask dealers I am tight with on what were their pick ups before the doors opened. They would show me multiple copies of hot books bought from an unknowing seller or high grade keys for a few cents on a dollar. 

    I normally praise their savvy buying tactics but this leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth. When I go to shows, I would FIRST buy 1 or 2 keys and a lot of fillers for my run. I eventually stopped going to the local shows as I find it pointless. I find that the thrill of hunting for decently priced keys is now gone. 

    Copper's Heating/Selling Well on Ebay

    in Copper Age Comic Books

    Posted

    On 11/27/2018 at 2:12 PM, Lazyboy said:

    What I am saying is that New Mutants 14 should sell, by anyone, to anyone, for a only few dollars (like any other random, non-key issue of the run), because its current "value" is based on an outright lie that has propagated all over the place.

    I think this differentiates today's bubble to that of the 90's. The internet has become a tool to spread ones opinion on a book as "gospel". Aside from vintage keys, I don't see today's prices to be sustainable.