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That comic just tends to get a bad wrap.

Do egregious printing/production errors like that affect the grade much?

2 hours ago, I am not Glenda said:

I gotta say while I am outraged and I agree with everyone on this post this is not cool or ok in anyway. On some level I am impressed I mean to ask $100 a book (plus $4 shipping!) is a big balls move & his inventory is also impressive. Whoever he/she is they know something about comics, imho the dumb move was to not put replica on the inside cover and to change the size a bit or maybe even add a standard (R) mark on each page or something along those lines. Again I am not saying this is ok or cool in anyway just an observation. I also want to note exact high quality covers of many key GA/SA books have been around & even sold on these boards for years. I am not saying it's the same situation but they also could be used to scam the same newbie mentioned above, I bought a Hulk #1 cover here a few years ago (sold it as coverless) in our store but several times it fooled some less educated customers when it was on display. Let the buyer beware if the deal is just to good or stay with graded books if it's a high dollar book.

Even if he marked the books as replicas, they're not his intellectual property to be profiting from. There's also a Brazilian seller doing the same thing, and at least one or two others in on the game.

Even the guys just selling the replica covers have no legal right to be doing so.

Ultimately it's dealers and collectors who stand to be scammed by these counterfeits.

I certainly do think the market exists for Marvel and DC to print their own legit replicas of key books on the original paper type, and clearly marked at the bottom of each page. Maybe they will, seeing as how the unauthorised versions are selling for a $100 per copy.

1 hour ago, tvindy said:

The important thing is that CGC and other professional graders continue to be able to tell the difference. What really frightens me is the possibility that counterfeiters will start manufacturing convincing slabs. 

I hadn't actually considered that!

1 hour ago, Randall Ries said:

Like in any hobby, the novice needs to beware. A few years ago, someone fell for the "Famous 1st Edition" thing and that was, what, 1974? DC at least keeps releasing foil editions and reprints on Bats 232, 251 etc. To a novice, they may seem like the real thing. I can't imagine anyone who is ready to drop $200k on a NM-M Hulk #1 hasn't already done some homework. Or any key book, really. There just can't be an overwhelming number of people who are getting had when they buy a key book. One or 2 people can stand as an object lesson for the rest of them.

I guess all that can be done is call legal at both DC and Marvel (and Disney) and tell them about it.

You're right about the novice, but it would be quite the minefield entering the hobby just now. There seems to be very low awareness that these counterfeits are currently entering the market even amongst seasoned collectors.

I think the likely scenario with counterfeits would be crooks selling them off "cheaply" to newbies who think they're getting a bargain on key books. "Wanna buy Hulk #1 for $1000? It might be worth a bit more but I really need the cash for my wife's dentist bill so it's your lucky day."

1 minute ago, Wolverinex said:

Exactly.  Slabs wont survive wildfires...

Do they float?

6 minutes ago, Wolverinex said:

Wait till wildfires and climate change destroy most comic collections.

That'll just make the surviving collections even MORE rare! An upside to everything.

The next global flood's gonna be bad news for collectors of just about anything.

4 minutes ago, Hollywood1892 said:

They actually had stamp stores?

I like stamps. They have nice pictures.

8 hours ago, onlyweaknesskryptonite said:

And there you have it. It usually is the things that no one really thinks will be worth anything that become so valuable. In 1909 The American Tobacco Company  issues T206 Honus Wagner Cards.  In 1939 no one thought a comic would be millions. 1980 Apple shares went public for $22 a share. In 1993 Magic the Gathering kicked off Alpha which was about $2-3 per pack.  In 1997 Amazon share went public for $18.   Almost any of these could have made you a millionaire today.

Even with Action Comics #1, you had to wait a good 40 years before it was serious money. Not many of us are thinking about that long of an ROI.

I sold an old torn-up cereal box for $540 a few years ago. Admittedly it was an Aussie 1966 Batman theme, but still. Nobody deliberately kept stuff like that other than garbage hoarders.

I see '60s candy bar wrappers routinely go for over $100 apiece. A few boxes of household paper garbage from the '60s would make for a decent retirement fund now. Throw in a few toys, garage-band records and comics from the time and that's a lot of bingo money.

11 minutes ago, EC Star&Bar said:

He's now even offering pairings at $180:   Action 1 /Tec 27,  Cap 1 /Marvel 1.

Anyway this is very brazen -- Disney will be interested to see Donald Duck FC 9 & FC 29 Mummy's Ring (with wear repro'ed on the back cover).  Their attorneys could be all over this guy.

And as Disney now owns Marvel, I'd think they'd be very protective of that major property too.

1 minute ago, telerites said:

I used to joke with my dad why he didn't buy a caseload of Action Comics #1s (he was born in 1929) but alas they were lucky just to have money for food and shelter.  Okay so maybe not a caseload, just one copy would have sufficed.  

That's true, even just one copy would have done the trick ... only a 10 cent investment for $3 million today! Oh well, who knew?

5 minutes ago, telerites said:

I do not know if he is still selling off his dad's books but that is where he started.  I also don't know if his dad has or is financing him.  His site does say his dad helps him with his business.

https://www.dylanuniversecomics.com/meet-dylan-universe-comics/

Well, now it all makes sense. Thanks. I was born around the time AF#15 came out, I'll always regret that my parents didn't buy a caseload of them for my eventual retirement.

Unless it's suddenly 1962 again, how does some kid get 2 copies of AF#15?

On 9/10/2020 at 6:51 AM, CJ Design said:

maybe damaged when they were laid on the big brass bed 

Or blowing in the wind.

I'd grab pretty much any Marvel from the 70s + early '80s at those prices.

3 minutes ago, Terry E. Gibbs said:

or what FF would have been like written by Don Heck

Well, it would have been at least heavily plotted by Don Heck, as that was the Marvel method.

14 hours ago, piper said:

Have you ever seen the stories produced by Ditko and Kirby without Lee? That’s proof enough for me of Lee’s involvement.

Sure. And I sometimes wonder what the FF would have been like if drawn all along by Don Heck and Spidey by Bob Powell.

1 minute ago, Juno Beach said:

He puts out 10 longboxes a day, and it's a total mystery what are in them. There's a lot of treasure in the drek. Next time I'm downtown I'll snap some photos.

Thanks. I'm way down in Australia, otherwise I'd drive over there myself!

Stan Lee, 1967:

"Some artists, such as Jack Kirby, need no plot
at all. I mean, I’ll just say to Jack, ‘Let’s let the
next villain be Dr. Doom’... or I may not even
say that. He may tell me. And then he goes
home and does it. He’s so good at plots, I’m
sure he’s a thousand times better than I. He
just about makes up the plots for these stories.
All I do is a little editing... I may tell him that
he’s gone too far in one direction or another.
Of course, occasionally I’ll give him a plot,
but we’re practically both the writers on the
things.”
 

9 hours ago, Joe Ankenbauer said:

Sorry, but I just don't buy it.

A couple of the things Stan said in that interview were generally correct, but much of it doesn't ring true.

1 hour ago, Juno Beach said:

A LCS (Legends Comics) lost their warehouse space and he is liquidating something like 60 000 comics from the 70's up at a quarter apiece. Sure people are buying bunches but there's still tons and tons of books not selling even at that price. 

I'd imagine the '70s stuff would have gone quickly, and much of the '80s. But there'd be a massive slow-down at the '90s mark.

Wish I could have been there for that sale. Any chance you could take a photo or two of the stuff that's still sitting there?

24 minutes ago, Ameri said:

You mean Kirby and Ditko? 

No, of course not. How would that be any kind of theory? I'm thinking it was his wife, Joanie.

I just got the massive Steranko is ... Revolutionary! book, at last ... this could take a while.

Just now, kav said:

Isnt that a review tho?

Well, more like an alternate view.