Falcon Apoda

I have a general question about submitting CGC-encapsulated books for signing.

Do books usually come back with the same grade as submitted? I understand that they do get graded again once the case is opened and the book is signed. But how often are they down-graded, and, if they are, do you get any notes about that from CGC, or just receive a downgraded book, and a "Dem's da breaks. kid."?

1 hour ago, The Lions Den said:

That seems rather generous...but you win some, you lose some.  

In the same submission, there were other books that I thought were in as good (if not better) condition that came in at 9.4. No ink blotches.

So I guess I suck at grading.

On 4/8/2020 at 4:26 PM, The Lions Den said:

Personally, I'd have no problem giving this book a 9.2 if the rest of the book looked nearly perfect...just my 

By the way, it came in at 9.6, blotch and all.

Just now, Deadpoolica said:

8.5

Thanks. What's keeping it down, do you think?

2 of 2.

This was part of a 2-book lot. Hadn't seen pictures of inside pages before I purchased for (probably) too much.

Thanks.

1 of 2.

This was part of a 2-book lot. Hadn't seen pictures of inside pages before I purchased for (probably) too much.

Thanks.

Thanks, guys!

9 hours ago, Deadpoolica said:

8.0 ish

Thanks!

That bad, huh.

I'm hoping pressing might help those corners.

Thanks.

5 minutes ago, Qalyar said:

So, pressing can probably correct the smaller crease near the right side, which doesn't appear to break color, but the big told is color breaking and can't be corrected. I'm not at all confident that a press will be worth the cost, nor that it will substantially improve this cover's presentation. A shame, as it's a real pretty book otherwise.

I don't have a great track record at numerical prognostication, so I'm hesitant to drop a number down. But I can safely say that EC's recent grade estimates are, with no offense intended, uselessly lowballing these comics. If I absolutely had to guess, I'd suggest that this told is significant enough to be a major defect, and that the final grade is probably 6.5. If they're willing to let that crease go as a moderate defect, I think you could get a 7.5. Either way, that's a $50 slab, give or take a little, per gocollect.

I agree.

It really is a nice book, except for the color breaking crease. And that tear. Actually, I'm currently attempting to return the book on General Principle, as this tear was not evident from the seller's photos.

Anyway, thanks.

6 minutes ago, Falcon Apoda said:

Yeah, this one was a mistake. From the seller's photos, this looked like a pressable defect, but when I opened the package, I could quickly see this was a very expensive "reader" copy.

Damn.

And yet... 3.5? Really?

No offense, but looking for second opinions. I was hoping this one might be an 8-range after pressing, but I could be delusional here.

52 minutes ago, EC Phanatic said:

5.0   page quality will down grade it......creasing.....

5.0 seems a harsh. Anyone else agree with this?

48 minutes ago, EC Phanatic said:

3.5 .....bad crease......good luck buddy~

Yeah, this one was a mistake. From the seller's photos, this looked like a pressable defect, but when I opened the package, I could quickly see this was a very expensive "reader" copy.

Damn.

Considering having this one pressed, but that right side cover damage (second to last photo) is breaking my heart.

As always, thanks.

2 hours ago, Deadpoolica said:

9.4

Thanks. Anything pressing can improve?

Not sure whether to press this one.

Thanks.

Hoping this one is better than the last one. Writing on back cover is in pencil and should come out in pressing.

Thanks.

This one is better than the other one, I think.

Thanks.

Not sure if I should send this one for pressing... if it would make much difference here.

Thanks.

Will undergo a pressing. And are those pages off-white, or ?

Thanks.

44 minutes ago, goodrockrich said:

9.0.  I would not spend the money on a press. The value difference from 9.0 to 9.2 isn't there.  Of course it's not always about value.  Just my opinion. 

Thanks. I agree.

47 minutes ago, theCapraAegagrus said:

Yes. This book? A pro won't hurt it, but I could see an amateur messing up that bottom staple.

If you have the disposable income to press... Sure, why not? I personally wouldn't burn the cash on this one.

Thanks. Reason I ask is because i recently submitted some other SW books (Marvel 1-7) that I felt were 9.0-ish for pressing via CGC in the hopes that they might achieve a higher grade. For the most part these books had some non-color breaking cover dings, bends, etc, so I went for it. But then I've been reading that one shouldn't get books pressed if they're already in good shape. Wasn't sure if this was a matter of exposure to potential damage or if it had to do with reaching the point of diminishing returns.

It seems the latter is the case - for this book, anyway.

6 hours ago, theCapraAegagrus said:

9.0 range.

I wouldn't press it. Looks pretty good already.

Can pressing ever hurt a book, or is it just a matter of wasting money?