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This is a really interesting point. Of course.

Interesting. This is a head-scratcher. I'd cautiously say it's real - but if I were a prospective bidder I'd do more research, and be prepared to find out it's not. None of the reasons you give suggest, to me, that it's real. I can't see why a forger wouldn't know when Kirby drew or what characters he drew. I'm a little more intrigued by the context of the auction: https://www.liveauctioneers.com/search/?house_id=1940&keyword=ORIG. OR THOR OR P%2FI OR ILLUS. OR \"HOWDY OR PAL\" OR SGN. OR JACK OR KIRBY OR 1969&status=online%2Clive%2Cupcoming This is where it gets a little gritty - there's other OA here, some Sam Glanzman covers, and a lot of work belonging to or executed by Ron Wilber. About five minutes with google shows he was an artist with a few credits, mostly softcore, sort of fanzine-y. He would have been 15 in 1969. So...maybe? The medium is a red flag, as I've seen very very few ballpoint pen pieces, so I can't say for sure how Jack drew with a ballpoint pen. Maybe like this? There's some confidence in the linework that I like and then some really weird choices (look at how he did the feathering on Thor's helmet, the strangeness of Mjolnir's strap) that are either exactly how he'd do it, or completely wrong. So: dunno, leaning toward "sure," unsurprised if it's something someone else did, but it's interesting. EDIT: if someone with more time on their hands goes through an image search, and can't find a corresponding, pre-existing pose this could have been swiped from, that would be to this piece's credit. I just saw one other detail in this that made me like it a bit more, sorta, but I've found that disclosing "how to distinguish a real Kirby" lessons posted on line are really good for future forgers. The real test would be taking it out of the frame and looking at it in person. Like: why is it folded? Was it in an envelope?

Good call. I was at Joe's house last year and saw his most current inking on the Spider-Man Sunday strip. It's scratchier than the '70s work, but not exactly diminished -- looks a lot like Silver Age Frank Giacoia. At the end of the day, he sat down drew Thor and Thing headshots - brilliantly.

In the cartoon justice system, the people are represented by two separate, yet equally important, groups: the children, who instigate crime; and the stuffed animals, who exonerate the offenders. These are their stories.

I used to own both pages and I sold them.

That is a lovely page.

This is copied from the "Roz" sketchbook. https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/81183478_jack-kirby-american-1917-1994-graphite-drawing EDIT: BTW, if these posts feel repetitive and/or obvious to you, apologies - I keep thinking I should just let stuff fly, but then I get DMs from people who want a heads-up. So I'll keep doing it when I can.

Okay, with the revised rules, I'd have him actually recreate the Journey 83 cover.

I think you're overimagining it about Marvel. The other imaginings make sense, though.

Three 96-page graphic novels: the first about growing up on the Lower East Side; the second about WWII; the third about 1959-1970.

I hadn't seen this late-ish Peanuts Sunday before. It made me laugh: https://comics.ha.com/itm/miscellaneous//p/7224-102005.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515

You got a cool piece at a good price, in my arrogant opinion. I'm not so sure it's excessively late Kirby, either - to my eye it could have come from pretty much any time from 1981 onward. I'm sure someone else around here knows the exact date. G

In honor of Sal, and in memorial of the Howard the Duck TV show (alas, it would have been great)....

To the OP's question: do you have the Kirby Checklist? https://twomorrows.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=123_139_145&products_id=640&zenid=fea62e08e65dd7d5b4415b9b2d6e6b23 I find that it really helps track down oddball work. If you want to make the bigger investment, get the update: https://twomorrows.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=95_97&products_id=1361&zenid=fea62e08e65dd7d5b4415b9b2d6e6b23 Professor Kublak - including this sketch - shows up there. I don't see anything to make me suspicious about it (though I'm not 100% sure what's going on at the bottom - is he turning invisible? Did Jack just not finish?Did something get erased?). It's a cool piece. I know some long-time Kirby fans who were interested in it.

I wish that were always true, but there's a whole thread now about fake Shusters that suggest the diligence is spottier than they admit. Agree about eBay.

I *think* it's real - it's been reproduced elsewhere, iirc. As far as price, It's not insane and there seem to be bids. There's not a ton of Golden Age Kirby out there, and this is a cool oddity. Like Terry says, too bad about the condition.

Yeah, educational. Thanks for the link.

That was actually me registering surprise - when I saw the two images show up on CAF I thought it was the same piece, having sold twice. Took a second for me to realize they were different.

Those are different pieces. Whoever did them wasn't trying to do a line for line recreation (look at Supes's motion lines; count the windows in the building). But the lettering - okay, this is amateur forensics - looks like the same person did it each time.

Just did a "Joe Shuster" search through CAF - I dont know how to tell real Shusters from fake, but here's a Superman 1 color recreation credited to him, apparently sold a couple years ago: https://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=1393877 How does this look to folks who know stuff?

The loop that this all ends up with is "The experts don't know anything but I do," and that way of thinking isn't exactly in retreat these days.

Thanks for your info, Rich. You're right - true knowledge is getting lost. It's disappointing when people rely on their guts instead, and might write things like "Joe would never sign a piece of art he didn't draw" without any understanding of how, yeah, he did. History is a lot weirder than people think.

Holy cow, that Mars Mason story might be the most insane comic I've ever seen. And I wrote the intro to the Fletcher Hanks book. Let's just start with the fact that NO MAIL GETS DELIVERED, to begin with.

I'm sure it comes down to which stories you'd like to see deconstructed - they're both pretty impressive. The small sized one is all Sinnott inks, and the art looks amazing -- it's all mature Silver Age Kirby-- but I'm very slightly fonder of the large-sized book, as you can track Jack's changing storytelling from 1962 to 1966. Neither is a tragedy to own.