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Posts posted by dudeman5000
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Interesting read. I for one would not think about doing business with Lonestart (never heard of them prior to this thread). However, some observations.
1) trade vs cash is usually 50% so I understand that part of their thinking. Policy or not, there is a lot of precedents for that.
2) Broken Shakespear said he would not discuss this on the phone with them when they offered to call him, because he has limited time to spend with his wife and kids. Are you kidding me? Seriously folks. One phone call to resolve a dispute? Put the wife and kid on your lap while you talk. Geesh! You found time to post here and to package, mail, peruse and pick out comics on there site, etc.
3) In any business, there are unhappy customers. Most of the time you do the right thing, and bend over backwards to make them happy. HOWEVER, sometimes there are customers that know this and try to take advantage of it, so sometimes you as the seller, have to take a stand, regardless of the bad publicity that particular customer might generate your way. It is principal.
4) It seems to me that LoneStar (according to what I have read here and keeping in mind that "they" have not posted here) did take offense to their grading being trashed. Many do, including "us". Understandable. We have not seen the product referred to as being wrong.
5) If you are not buying CGC (notice I did not use the term professionally graded. That was intentional), you take the chance that the book may not be within 1 1/2 grades of where you thought it would be. Grading is subjective, especially through an online service. CGC and other companies can disagree that much, and they do it as their sole business.
6) One hundred dollars is not a lot of money to ANYONE. The principal does matter, but if 100 is a big deal to you, then you need to quit buying comic books and save.
7) Broken Shakespear also runs a "business". He states that he buys collections, sells the keys for a profit (at least twenty percent) and then sells the junk for whatever he can get or for trade. Now, there is nothing wrong with that, but he does say that it is junk. Would anyone expect to get 100% for comic book junk? If so, I have about twenty "Deaths of Robin" I will sell you at cover price.
8) being a retired cop, I can only say that in most situations, there is fault on both sides of every dispute. I see faults on the part of both parties here.
Still, the majority of the fault IMHO is on the part of LoneStar. Broken is a small business and LoneStar is much larger, therefore LoneStar should take the initiative to satisfy this particular customer in a reasonable manner and take the "loss" (miniscule to them) rather than have Broken take the loss (a little more than miniscule to him I guess). It is good business.
Of course, I ain't the brightest light on the Christmas tree, so maybe I am totally wrong, but I don't think so. If I had both of these parties in a room and I was mediating this situation, it would have been solved in minutes, to the satisfaction of both parties, with the exception that I believe they would both still want to do business with each other from now on. I think that Broken does and I bet that LoneStar might want to, if certain guidelines could be agreed upon.
If someone steals 5 bucks from me, I will do everyting in my power to make them regret doing that. But, if someone askes me for 5 bucks, then I will probably give it to them (heck, I know for sure I would) as how can you not give when asks for help, and live with yourself. That does not mean that ya'll can PM me or post, and ask me to send you five bucks. I ain't a fool and can tell when someone is attempting to make me look like a fool or they are genuine. So, don't even go there.
Bottom line. You should have taken the phone call Broken Shakespear, for starters, and gone from there. IMHO
I am glad that it worked out as it did, and I believe "they" will be doing bisiness with each other again in the future. It is like ex-wifes. They are never truly out of your life. (no, I don't have an ex. Been with my darling for 43 years
Great post!
Chris
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Update:
I just got an e-mail from Buddy. He has agreed to allow me a one time purchase for the remaining amount of credit, on CGC books only, and to issue credit to cover the outstanding books they have not credited me for, for the return shipping credits owed me, and for the books I have not mailed them back yet, with the understanding I do return them.
He agreed to this because I would not be able to question grading any further, as they are CGC graded. I'm supposed to thank whoever proposed the idea.
Still not a happy ending, but not an ending where I am totally shafted...
Congrats on the successful resolution. May not be exactly want you wanted, however a resolution none the less. (thumbs u I really wish that LSC would have responded through one of the board members, my experiences with them a few years back ordering trades, supplies, and comics were flawless experiences. There are so few in our community that we do not help the industry flaming each other on boards, when we may be able to work out our issues by understanding that we do not know what is happening in the "offender's" day to day to affect their attitude. A little understanding will go a long way. Of course this is the perfect forum to air grievances after all lesser means for amicable resolution have failed or cannot be reasonably employed.
My take aways from this thread are:
1. Take a deep breath
2. Never buy anything from Shocker Toys
Chris
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Today's arrivals:
Wow! Real beauties-Congrats!
Chris
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It was a good day to get books from CGC! Here is another one...
okay, maybe two...
Beautiful Cap's Mr.B! Bravo!
:banana:Chris
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Hey all-received a shipping notification ( )and PM today. Seems to have been a clerical error on my $225 worth of books. What is still depressing is that it took my threatening to open a Paypal dispute to get a response back. I am a gullible sort and hope this was all a miscommunication, though I will not deal with this member again in the future. All's well that ends well I suppose! I am very glad to see that this thread is not "blowing up" and that most of our community is true and honest on deals made .
Chris
hey, howabout helping your fellow forum members out, and giving up a name? don't be the one covering for an -hole. let them explain their side of the story.
in a related note, but not specifically geared to dudeman, if i have a transaction wherein i send money and don't get books or send books and don't get money, and then find out that someone else had the same problem and didn't say anything, i'm going to be mighty pisssed off
I really don't care how you would feel Sid, and don't appreciate being baited. I wanted to wait until I had my books and story straight before telling my side.
I received my books today and would strongly encourage comicfreak to review his clerical procedures. My books arrived in top shape as described 31 days after purchase. This does not bother me as I understand how hard it can be to get to the post office. As a First Sergeant of Marines I understand a chaotic work schedule. But the lack of communication here is inexcusable, as my messages were read and postings by comicfreak made without responding to me, a simple courtesy. Only after I left a Paypal inquiry message did I get a response. Any member of the boards I have dealt with has been paid or shipped to promptly and I made it my mission to keep clear lines of comm open concerning status of shipment. Friendly and prompt service is what I am used to here, and I am disappointed at having to post this message. I will not purchase from comicfreak in the future.
Chris
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Hey all-received a shipping notification ( )and PM today. Seems to have been a clerical error on my $225 worth of books. What is still depressing is that it took my threatening to open a Paypal dispute to get a response back. I am a gullible sort and hope this was all a miscommunication, though I will not deal with this member again in the future. All's well that ends well I suppose! I am very glad to see that this thread is not "blowing up" and that most of our community is true and honest on deals made .
Chris
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I hope all goes well , I don't expect this kind of treatment when I deal with a board member. What's upsetting is that he's read all of the messages I've sent, but never responded.
If it doesn't, out him here so other board members won't have to learn the hard way that he's not trustworthy.
Today is day 26 and my last message to him was read this morning and not responded to. 4 days left.......
Chris
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At what point do you call someone out for slow shipping? I purchased some books from a board member 25 days ago on E-Bay and have received no books and no response despite politely asking for a status update. I will never do business with this member again-this I assure you. I am an easy going guy but this is getting ridiculous!
Chris
"failure to complete a transaction in good faith after one month's time"
You've got 5 more days . . .
I hope all goes well , I don't expect this kind of treatment when I deal with a board member. What's upsetting is that he's read all of the messages I've sent, but never responded.
Chris
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At what point do you call someone out for slow shipping? I purchased some books from a board member 25 days ago on E-Bay and have received no books and no response despite politely asking for a status update. I will never do business with this member again-this I assure you. I am an easy going guy but this is getting ridiculous!
Chris
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Monster kudos out to Pirate some fast *spoon* shipping on a beautiful Dezuniga signed and sketched Jonah Hex that is one of my prized books. I thank you for stepping up and providing the lightning fast shipping in a solid package. You are the man Anthony!!
Chris
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52 WEEK #47
GREEN LANTERN #18
SENSATIONAL SPIDER-MAN #36
WIZARD MAGAZINE CIVIL WAR FALLEN SON CVR #187
GI JOE AMERICAS ELITE #22
I can't wait for Morrison and Kubert to get the hell off of Batman-Bring back the good old days of Winick/Mahnke/Ngyuen!! Good times!
Chris
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52 WEEK #46
DETECTIVE COMICS #830
JUSTICE SOCIETY OF AMERICA #4
JUSTICE SOCIETY OF AMERICA VAR ED #4
TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE #5 (MR)
AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #539
Good times!
Chris
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52 WEEK #46
DETECTIVE COMICS #830
JUSTICE SOCIETY OF AMERICA #4
JUSTICE SOCIETY OF AMERICA VAR ED #4
TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE #5
AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #539
Good times!
Chris
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52 WEEK #45
STORMWATCH PHD #5
TALES OF THE UNEXPECTED #6 (OF 8)
GHOST RIDER #9
MOON KNIGHT #8
GRIMM FAIRY TALES #13
LONE RANGER #5
Slow week Good times!
Chris
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Another pickup.......
Death of T-Bird- awesome pick-up Casey!
Chris
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Wow you have been getting some sweet Jonah Hex booksTwo new Cabelleros to pony up to the Dudeman's ranch courtesy of some great E-Bay sellers!Good times!
Chris
Thanks Danny! I had to adjust fire after realizing I could never catch up to KC and your sweet X-Collection! Good times!
Chris
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Two new Cabelleros to pony up to the Dudeman's ranch courtesy of some great E-Bay sellers!
Good times!
Chris
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I upgraded from my 9.6 copy!
Nice pick up and upgrade!
Chris
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Thanks Dan-I love the Jonah Hex stories!
Chris
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Newest All Star Western to mosey on down to the Dudeman's ranch courtesy of Pedigree.....
Read more about it in the Bronze Infinite Western Thread-(Shameless plug!) Good times!
Chris
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I don't normally post new acquisitions, preferring to keep my purchases private, but now that I own two old-label copies of Sub-Mariner Comics # 26 in 9.0...well, I just thought it would be a cool pic to share.
Sweet books George!
Chris
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52 WEEK #43
BATMAN CONFIDENTIAL #3
GREEN LANTERN #17
HAWKGIRL #61
WIZARD COMICS MAGAZINE VENOM CVR #186
Good times!
Chris
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52 WEEK #42
TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE #4 -The first three issues have been done very well!
SPIDER-MAN #538
GRIMM FAIRY TALES #11
WARHAMMER 40K #2 - Try this book out! I do not play the RPG, but found the first issue to be a great read!
Good times!
Chris
KUDOS THREAD - positive feedback on buyers/sellers
in Kudos Forum
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(thumbs u Thanks Beach Bum for 15 great CGC graded Uncanny's! Lightning fast shipping!
Chris