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2 minutes ago, kav said:

Sending a bunch of death of supermans in for slabbing hoping for 9.8s would be a financial disaster.

So you would advise against slabbing 30,000 Superman comics from the 90s? 

6 minutes ago, kav said:

minus grading fees plus 9.8's are rare-he would lose money slabbing and hoping for 9.8s.

He bought them new, though, so assuming he avoided any with obvious defects, immediately bagged and boarded them in mylar, and kept them in a temperature-controlled garage over the past 27 years, he should have lots of 9.8s. With shipping and grading fees, he could still easily become a multi-millionaire with as few as 30,000 9.8s, assuming there are 30,000 prospective buyers out there. (And to think, you were laughing at him.) 

43 minutes ago, kav said:

I recall one boardie had a neighbor who literally filled his garage with boxes of death of superman.  He was certain he would be a multimillionaire.   

Those comics in 9.8 are currently selling for around $100, so if he's still got them, he should do okay.

25 minutes ago, kav said:

What happened was everything became like liefeld.  He was a big name and even tho the stories and art were awful, they SOLD.  No one knows quite why.  So everyone emulated the Liefeld type books.  Solid artists like Curt Swan suddenly couldnt get much work-he didnt draw like liefeld or Jim Lee.  It was out with the old, in with the bad.  They also focused on foil covers and relegated writing to a back seat.  People thought the new foil books they bought 30 copies of would be worth Action #1 money in a few years.  LCS owners scoffed at golden age books and stocked up on foils.

Interesting. I guess the industry just became complacent after their success in the 80s. I can see how foil covers would look cool to people in the 90s, though.

30 minutes ago, kustomizer said:

The '90s really were the Dark Ages for comics.

30 minutes ago, kustomizer said:

The '90s really were the Dark Ages for comics.

My comic collection was almost entirely amassed in my childhood from the mid-70s to late 80s By the 90s, I had moved on to other things. (I still have my collection, though, and it's one of my most treasured possessions.) I have very little familiarity with 90s comics. I'm not surprised that most comics from that decade have almost no monetary value. That makes sense, since collectors were hoarding them in large numbers as investments. But I'm really surprised to hear that the quality was so bad, to the point that no one even wants to read them, even if they're free. What exactly happened in the 90s? Did all the big-name writers just walk out?

3 minutes ago, telerites said:

Not really related but I wonder why the seller didn't or maybe couldn't find a better original cover to replicate.  If you look closely, there is scuffing along the spine and some CB creases elsewhere on the FC.  Perhaps, the seller was going for that look.

I personally think it is ludicrous to pay that much for a replica when cheaper authorized editions are readily available.  Heck you could get a milestone editions with multiple issues cheaper.

It makes me wonder if some folks who buy these may try to pass them off as originals 

Yes, I'm sure some people want these to try and pass them off as originals. That may even be the majority of the people who buy them. On the other hand, I can certainly understand the appeal. I know there are all sorts of modern reprintings (with much better paper and printing techniques) and online versions if you're just interested in reading the stories and appreciating the artwork. Still, I love the idea of a faithful replica printed on the same paper at the same size as the original. You can hold it in your hands and get a sense of what it was like to read the original when it first came out. If these were marked in some obvious but unobtrusive way and actually published by Marvel, I would be all for them.

6 minutes ago, kustomizer said:

He does, but there's no indication on the book itself that it's a replica.

The unauthorized replica industry is really chugging along:

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2334524.m570.l1313&_nkw=replica&_sacat=73&LH_TitleDesc=0&_osacat=73&_odkw=reokica

Interesting. It's a good thing we have CGC.

6 minutes ago, kustomizer said:

Just for even more laffs, here's a guy in Brazil selling a Hulk #1 replica for $30, free post worldwide:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Incredible-Hulk-1-Silver-Age-Replica-Edition/124328733847?hash=item1cf291ec97:g:DPcAAOSwaFFfOFVN

He has others too.

He does say right in the title that it's a replica, though.

2 minutes ago, vheflin said:

He can offer it the runner-up bidder and the bid after that one too.  Or just relist.

I bet he'll be outbid, they can't resist that Hulk #1 bait!

Yep, all those Lou Ferrigno fans out there! 

4 minutes ago, vheflin said:

He will ship it all, Hulks included, which is worth maybe half current bid + shipping + tax.

 

Ah, I get it now. Thanks. 

2 minutes ago, James J Johnson said:

If FloppyBubbles is the buyer (from Neatstuff in July), then he's also the high bidder for his own current auction. (844)

Right, but I assume he hopes to be outbid. Otherwise, what's the point?

1 minute ago, vheflin said:

oooh I'd say Floppy bought them...he has different pics of the Hulks in his listing which means he possesses them, I assume.

Perhaps he bought them intentionally as bait to move this giant lot of poo? 

But then wouldn't the buyer receive the bait? If they're in the photos, he has to include them in the lot. Or are we thinking that he doesn't intend to ship anything at all?

15 minutes ago, James J Johnson said:

Well whadda'ya know? I knew I saw the Hulk 1-6 someplace before. Just had to keep looking; July 12th:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Incredible-Hulk-1-2-3-4-5-6-Full-Run-Lot-Jack-Kirby-Ditko-Stan-Lee-Full-Run-Lot-/164274645577?hash=item263f882a49%3Ag%3AWh0AAOSwd71e~5Zb&nma=true&si=E8od8oRKDZdprrtjzMjvScVHsRw%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 

And the winner of that NeatStuff listing, the six Hulks that appear verbatim in Floppy B's listing, just happens to be the HIGH BIDDER in Floppy B's debacle.

https://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/164274645577?item=164274645577&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2565 

 

So Either one of two possibilities are in play. 

The bidder with 844 feedbacks is bidding on FloppyB's listing because he recognizes the books he already bought from NeatStuff in July, and this is some form of entrapment, for criminal purposes, or the winner of those books is FloppyBubbles and he's shilling this lot using the same account he won the Hulks from Neatstuff with. 

I'm confused. Those Hulk comics appear to have been legit. One of them is even slabbed. Are we thinking that floppybubbles cracked the case to prevent that particular Hulk comic from being tracked? And if these are the same Hulk comics, how would floppy have new photos of them? Is he actually selling authentic original Hulk 1-6 comics? 

10 minutes ago, Comicshows said:

Page 5 has a single post from new member HitmanReborn. One post only and this is the thread he chose. Things that make you go hmmmm. 

Yes, that post was suspicious for a number of reasons.

13 minutes ago, James J Johnson said:

And just look at the care taken to precisely position the slabs so that the holograms all have the exact same degree of visibility, while making sure that not one detail of any of the labels can be seen!  

This is intriguing, because from the other pictures, it seems as if he is just scraping photos from the Internet and doesn't even have any comics. (The boxes don't appear to be the same boxes in every photo; some comics appear to be prints from microfiche; etc.) But why would he be hiding grades, unless he actually intends to ship what's in the pictures? I suppose he may just have grabbed a photo from some other scammer who was hiding grades. 

1 hour ago, Nic8612 said:

 

So what you're saying is there's still a chance that X-Factor #1 could blow up?!

Yes, or maybe something else that you collected. (Who know? Twenty years from now, Disney could release an X-Factor trilogy into the Marvel cinematic universe.)

27 minutes ago, Nic8612 said:

 

Unless you were a kid in the 90s and stocked up on that sweet sweet polybagged "collector's edition" of X-Factor #1  

90s kids aren't yet adults, though. 

4 hours ago, 1950's war comics said:

the entire lot is not even worth the shipping costs...

That copy of Action Comics #1 would probably be enough to cover shipping costs. 

13 hours ago, Chip Hart said:

if anyone has any advice - especially because I'm inclined to sell it (see the college comment above) - I'd be grateful!

Definitely get it pressed. A small boost to the grade can add thousands of dollars to its value.

Isn't it great when comics you bought as a child pay off big time when you grow up? I remember telling adults all the time how my comic book collection would one day be worth big bucks. It turns out I was right. 

On 9/8/2020 at 8:47 AM, Roddulate said:

Let's see how much this goes for. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/TEENAGE-MUTANT-NINJA-TURTLES-1-1ST-APP-2ND-PRINT-CGC-9-6-OW-W-PAGES-RARE/143725018021

$2,250 with three days to go. GoCollect estimates the value at $5500, so if the bidding ends below that, it may be an indication that prices have peaked for now,

I ran across this YouTube video about a similar scam. It's a bit different in that it's not an eBay sale but rather the scammer reaching out directly to a dealer. But it involves a huge lot of boxes with the photo not matching the stated number and pictures of comics that are way too good to be true.

Wow! I remember those old Marvel pocket paperbacks. I devoured them as a child. I read the Fantastic Four one so many times that many of the panels of FF 1-6 are forever burned into my memory. I will always remember the Human Torch encountering an amnesiac Sub-Mariner in a retirement home and shaving off his beard with his flame.

45 minutes ago, telerites said:

Screw the comics.  People are bidding on those ragged, stinky long boxes.

stinky like the auction

Seeing as how it's a scam, I would guess that some of those bids are actually coming from the seller's other eBay accounts. Others might be from people who know it's a scam and just want to troll the seller. For all we know, he hasn't received a single serious bid. 

9 minutes ago, old_dano said:

Just figured out it's the 6th print... and not worth much...

Just found a really high grade copy while sorting some books out.

Dan

The way things are going, it might be worth holding on to.