1Cool

I guess everyone else is sleeping off their hangover or licking their wounds from last nights fight. But like any good fight it hopefully is about resolving issues so you can move forward.

I can be harsh and blunt at times and even I will say people were harsh with Chip but come on man - playing the "I don't have time to change up my offer" and "I can't give away my new books" cards was pretty weak. I bet most of the books offered here could be put in the "inventory" category if the person wants to. Your second offer was quickly looking to be a dud since people just do not have a use for a non complete set of that series. I don't know your situation but pulling one nicer book from the stack you just purchased and offering it up would have been a great gesture. By saying you don't have time to post up another book is a slap in the face of all the people that took so much time putting this thread together and those that put in hours trying to get back your stolen money.

Perhaps a PM next time? The West Coast was barely out of bed.

Sold point. Probably would work equally as well.

$$$$ shouldn't matter

 

Aren't most of the perceived issues with PIF is people taking big ticket offerings and offering up drek? Money typically defines drek.

 

True-but drek to me is more Shadowhawk II # 3-now the previous poster can certainly veto, but Chip has made it well known where his income falls. I think he legitimately is trying to offer a package thriftily that's made somewhat of a theme.

 

I think Chip sounds like a great guy and I wish him a quick financial turn-around but I see his offer as a step down compared to the two Spiderman books. I have no veto power so I guess we will just see how things go.

 

I retract what I said. Chip - leave your books up for a day and see how things go. Maybe I'm completely off-base on what people are looking for. I tend to assign value to most things and doing a cost to benefit analyses is part of my everyday life as an Engineer so maybe I take it too far at times. I promise no more comments from me about quality of the offers except to accept the offers I like.

 

I'm cool enough to accept when I need to go another route.

 

I honestly thought you were joking when you posted slagging off his offer so quickly.

 

+1

 

must be sarcasm, no one would be that harsh that quick.

Nope - I was trying to be blunt and honest and came across as harsh and crass.

$$$$ shouldn't matter

 

Aren't most of the perceived issues with PIF is people taking big ticket offerings and offering up drek? Money typically defines drek.

 

True-but drek to me is more Shadowhawk II # 3-now the previous poster can certainly veto, but Chip has made it well known where his income falls. I think he legitimately is trying to offer a package thriftily that's made somewhat of a theme.

 

I think Chip sounds like a great guy and I wish him a quick financial turn-around but I see his offer as a step down compared to the two Spiderman books. I have no veto power so I guess we will just see how things go.

I retract what I said. Chip - leave your books up for a day and see how things go. Maybe I'm completely off-base on what people are looking for. I tend to assign value to most things and doing a cost to benefit analyses is part of my everyday life as an Engineer so maybe I take it too far at times. I promise no more comments from me about quality of the offers except to accept the offers I like.

I'm cool enough to accept when I need to go another route.

I think we could all agree that there is more good than bad going on in this thread. As for the rest of the noise, guess what it's like that in every thread on the CGC boards. Name me one thread that doesn't have bullying, difference of opinions, people who don't like each other etc

 

I've come to terms that this board is never going to change as far as the issues above. It is what it is.

 

Despite all that, there is so much here than that noise (I know it makes up the majority of the pages) but just look past that.

 

I think itsjustryan posted it perfectly the other day.

 

see an item you like, take it, post an item someone would like, repeat etc

 

if you don't like the item, or the item isn't to snuff, then let it expire etc

 

Peach (my version of peace)

 

Sounds great in principal. Lets see how things go once we have a few offers expire.

$$$$ shouldn't matter

 

Aren't most of the perceived issues with PIF is people taking big ticket offerings and offering up drek? Money typically defines drek.

 

True-but drek to me is more Shadowhawk II # 3-now the previous poster can certainly veto, but Chip has made it well known where his income falls. I think he legitimately is trying to offer a package thriftily that's made somewhat of a theme.

I think Chip sounds like a great guy and I wish him a quick financial turn-around but I see his offer as a step down compared to the two Spiderman books. I have no veto power so I guess we will just see how things go.

$$$$ shouldn't matter

Aren't most of the perceived issues with PIF is people taking big ticket offerings and offering up drek? Money typically defines drek.

Okay, here we go...

 

 

Starting at the top :

Little Lulu #148 and #150 (1960)

Hot Stuff #14 (1959)

Classics Illustrated #83 (1965)

Racket Squad #24 (1957)

Flash Gordon #5 (1967)

Wyatt Earp #25 (1959)

Gorgo #4 (1961)

Mysterious Suspense #1 (1968)

Four Color #885 (1958)

Quick-Trigger Western #16 (1957)

Young Romance #49 (1952)

Heroic Comics #70 (1952)

Wild Bill Hickok #7 (1949)

The Jaguar #15 (1963)

 

...but wait, there's more!

 

 

Pinocchio #2 (1963)

Thirteen #29 (1971)

Brain Boy #6 (1963)

The Outer Limits #17 (1968)

Tarzan #178 (1968)

MARS Patrol #3 (1966)

MARS Patrol #6 (1968)

Space Adventures #3 (1967)

Fightin' Army #26 (1958)

Fightin' Army #66 (1965)

Battlefield Action #20 (1958)

Battlefield Action #21 (1958)

 

Thanks for looking.

 

Peace,

 

Chip

 

That's the kind of lot I'd be interested in. Unfortunately, I'm not eligible.

Didn't we just go over not telling people you are interested in a set if you can't grab it for two days?

Okay, here we go...

 

 

Starting at the top :

Little Lulu #148 and #150 (1960)

Hot Stuff #14 (1959)

Classics Illustrated #83 (1965)

Racket Squad #24 (1957)

Flash Gordon #5 (1967)

Wyatt Earp #25 (1959)

Gorgo #4 (1961)

Mysterious Suspense #1 (1968)

Four Color #885 (1958)

Quick-Trigger Western #16 (1957)

Young Romance #49 (1952)

Heroic Comics #70 (1952)

Wild Bill Hickok #7 (1949)

The Jaguar #15 (1963)

 

...but wait, there's more!

 

 

Pinocchio #2 (1963)

Thirteen #29 (1971)

Brain Boy #6 (1963)

The Outer Limits #17 (1968)

Tarzan #178 (1968)

MARS Patrol #3 (1966)

MARS Patrol #6 (1968)

Space Adventures #3 (1967)

Fightin' Army #26 (1958)

Fightin' Army #66 (1965)

Battlefield Action #20 (1958)

Battlefield Action #21 (1958)

 

Thanks for looking.

 

Peace,

 

Chip

No Golden Age / Silver Age reader copy collectors? I'd switch it up if I was you since I see most people blowing these out for $1/$2 per book in sales threads.

Gentlemen and Ladies, I really would like to participate in this thread but there are dozens of pages of vigorous discussion making it virtually impossible for anyone to participate outside of those who clearly can sit here and read/post all day long.

 

For the love of ::insert personal preferred deity here::, can we please stop with all the chit-chat, butt-hurt, and superfluous commentary (applause that an offer is great is just as derailing as negative statements)?

 

Honestly, can we just get to the point where there are only offers posted and people take them (or not) and then post their own?

The chatter of the birds is what makes the tree extra special. The second post is always there for people to check what the current offer is.

I think you missed the point of his post. Its a lack of urgency to the person offering up the books he is trying to eliminate. People become complacent if they think their offer will be taken in 2 days which leads to people sitting around for two days. You and I thought the offer was good and we should have kept it under our hats because we are sitting on the sidelines.

...but again, why is there a sense of urgency in the first place above and beyond what the rules state? You want faster turnover? Change the rules to reflect that. Thread moving too slow for you? Change the rules to reflect that.

 

As I've stated before, cut all "chatter" posts other than the posting/claiming of offers and nearly all of the problems in this thread go away. No one will know what others want, and if nothing is claimed than the offeror has to switch it up as much as he can before enough time passes where he'll get a strike.

 

Peace,

 

Chip

So you agree that the "chatter" is sometimes not positive and in this case Harvey is saying he feels our particular "chatter" was not helpful to the thread. Out of respect for the thread - lets just chatter about other stuff and leave out the pre-emptive "I'll take it in two days" talk.

I'm sorry, but 1Cool and I saying that we're itching to take it once the 48 hours has passed does not stop someone new from coming into the thread and saying, 'Wow, awesome books." and scooping up the McSpideys before the 48 hours is up.

 

Urgency, smurgency. If someone wants the books they'll take them. If they go unclaimed it does NOT mean it's a bad offer to begin with. The participant sample size in here is very small.

 

Peace,

 

Chip

I think you missed the point of his post. Its a lack of urgency to the person offering up the books he is trying to eliminate. People become complacent if they think their offer will be taken in 2 days which leads to people sitting around for two days. You and I thought the offer was good and we should have kept it under our hats because we are sitting on the sidelines.

There seems to be a lot of going on right now.

 

Great, Ducky's offer was claimed:

 

 

The reverse side of these arguments against Ducky changing up his offer is - why would he? 1Cool and Chip made it very clear that they intended to claim the books after 48 hours. Personally, I'd hope that someone sitting with an offer for 2 days knowing plenty have seen it would switch it up. I'd feel embarrassed if it was me. I want this thread to grow beyond those who may have participated in PIF. I feel that for that to happen things need to be different.

 

Everyone stating Ducky's offer was great and whatnot cannot overlook that he DID stall the thread for 2 days by not caring to at least try to offer options.

 

In the future, if it is your intention to claim something after 48 hours, please...for the benefit of the community and integrity of this thread:

 

Don't announce it.

Well said and I'm happy to follow. Sorry if my comments were felt to derail the thread for a time - not my intent but I can see how they could have.

I disagree with you completely. However that way of thinking does explain the four day delays that occurred in PIF.

I don't understand which portion you disagree with? The offer was found to be good since a person quickly took it when it did not cause him to sit out for the month. I agree with you that people should offer up multiple options and switch it up when its stale but I do not think they should be required to if the offer is good. There has to be a medium between people being complacent and people just being too darn picky.

I originally put up an offer that was soundly rejected, I offered another several hours later which many members seemed to like. It was claimed then rescinded, several members who had previously calmed stated they were interested. So I left the offer up because I knew someone wanted it and to irritate Jiminy Cricket. Had there been no interest in my offer after it was claimed and rescinded I would have offered something else. 48 hours does not stall the thread. There were multiple "giveaways" during that time.

Thanks for the info. I think the system worked perfectly. The person who offered up a good offer did not have his feet held to the flame to come up with an even better offer just to avoid the strike and now after two days we will get a new offer on the table for the people who didn't like the ASM 298, 299 and cool book.

Yup participants need to be more proactive.

Even if it's a generous offer if there's no interest there's no interest.

I missed out on this whole conversation since I was sleeping (crazy me) but I did question this statement. Didn't Ducky post up a first offer that was quickly panned and then he came back with a nice offer (definitely in line with what others have offered up). It looks like he waited the 2 days and did nothing to change his offer for whatever reason and it was taken within seconds of becoming available to all members. What did we learn from this? The offer was definitely good since multiple members would have taken it (me included) but it wasn't good enough for someone to use their once a month acceptance.

Are we now asking members to not only come up with a good offer but then rotate the offer to see if they come up with the right combination necessary to get someone to use their acceptance. That kind of feels like the ugly guy at the dance having to do around offering flowers to the girl so they will dance with him. I don't think many people are going to accept any offer if they have to go through that much risk of rejection.

You stink Chip.

Looks like the complete opposite from the old PIF - everyone is giving - no one is taking.

Kav, if you do an art piece for me, I will encourage you to post more! ]

Kav has to sleep he can't possibly post more.

 

Pretty much midnight tonight EST.

I hope Ducky throws up another option tonight or someone takes his Spideys. I'm starting to get kind of scared to take the Spideys with how tough this crowd is. We will see what tomorrow brings.

If his recent issue was his first strike then I can see forgiving him. But I can't see any reason to not ban him since this is at least his third major issue in the short time he has been on the boards. Just like a bad buyer on E-Bay - ban and move on.

Question for Ducky since I'm curious - would you have changed your offer if the rules wouldn't have been changed to allow anyone to grab an offer after 2 days? Or do you feel the offer is good so it is what you are sticking with?

If the taco trucks back up

 

not 100% sure but trying to follow what's going on here.

When you post will not matter if we use a 24 hour grace period if a side offer was recently taken. I don't think anyone should feel like they need to tailor their post time to other people's schedule.

I dont know if it is a defined time as much as what feels right. After I got my ASM in a claim there were several free offers. I didnt claim any because it just didnt "feel" right since I was lucky to get a cool offer. I dont know.... Maybe I shouldnt have said anything. It wasnt really my place, it was just that it was 2 out of the last 3 freebies.

He did ask before grabbing it and no one told him they wanted it - but it was at 1:08 AM out here in the East. I think if a person waits 1 days to see if other people want the item after recently getting a freebee would be great.