MrPcfixer

Yeah strong hand.

On 1/12/2024 at 12:24 PM, CGC Mike said:

While we do allow criticism, we do not allow promoting our competitors.  The video was removed.  No warnings through the point system were issued this time.

So if the words CBCS comes up in ANY post is that also not allowed? I'm asking because I don't want to be punished again for speaking truth. The video posted quite literally didn't promote one case over the other. No where in the video did he say BUY CBCS NOT CGC. It was used for educational purposes and it served its purpose well. That is all there is too it. I'm not taking sides I'm also hoping CGC can take a hint and change the tooling of the cases to get this fixed SOON. But with MANY MANY millions of crack able cases out there its a moot point yes?

On 4/20/2023 at 11:22 PM, thehumantorch said:

 

Interesting video.  Big John has sent in thousands of books without getting a purple label for cleaning and he seems to know what he's talking about and he's learned through trial and error.

Contrast that with your first post

"Im going to keep this short but would like the entire community to give me honest input. As of late CGC has been sending out purple labels left right and center for "RESTORATION FOR CLEANED COVER". Now heres the issue with this. Is dirt boogers and god knows what else part of a comic book when it comes off the press? I dont believe so no. Would a person rather own a book covered in filth versus a cleaned cover that brings the book back as close to new as it can be? I believe so yes. CGC hasnt had a problem with cleaning books until recently. Even in the CGC grading guide nowhere does it mention that cleaning the cover could be construed as "RESTORATION". By definition means to "RESTORE". I think CGC allowing a person to openly give an opinion on if a book is "TOO CLEAN FOR ITS AGE", is a really bad precedent. By grading books with purple labels for a simple cleaning is killing the community as of late. Its all anyone is talking about in the clean and press community. Unless CGC changes its standards and DEFINES restoration as CLEANING A COVER USING STANDARD METHODS. I think CGC will be taking a pretty big hit long term to its submissions. Theres ALOT of extremely good professional cleaners and pressers out there submitting thousands of books a year for their clients. When those clients start getting purple labels back well there goes the client. CGC You are only hurting the community as a whole doing this. NOONE is saying "ohhh thank GOD that booger and blood and dirt is still on this comic phew!"

This has nothing to do with dirt boogers or filth or blood on the comic and it has nothing to do with 'too clean for it's age.  Trust me, I have mint, white page, high gloss and color GA and SA books that look as nice as the day they were printed in 9.4/9.6/9.8 holders and just got back 4 books 2 weeks ago 9.8, 9.6, 9.6, and 9.4 ( @Artboy99 could you post those Four Colors we just got back?).  And these were pressed and perhaps lightly dry cleaned by Joey but it helps to start with mint books. 

CGC doesn't give purple labels for too clean, they give them if they can detect tell-tail signs of cleaning or other restoration.  It's a gold rush out there and there are tons of guys pushing the boundaries of cleaning and pressing and restoration because there's money to be made.  And most of them don't know what they're doing and now they're getting caught.  That's literally what Big John just said.

 

Really appreciate your feedback and thank you for honest input. I have followed and USE RELIGIOUSLY big johns methods and have never received a purple label myself. I have sent in to date 325 or so books using UV peroxide treatments and immacuclean. Never not once a purple label. BUT where I have seen the disparaging part is within the last 2 months several very well known cleaners/pressers have been slapped on the wrist with "COVER TOO CLEAN" and "COVER CLEANED" purple labels. Now since I myself didnt see these first hand and was not there before sending them off to inspect I cant say for certain they were right or wrong. However I can say that several well known cleaners/pressers have run into this issue as of late. My concern is/was that is CGC now going to go on a tirade with this causing people to resubmit books hence making more money for CGC. We all just saw CGCs MASSIVE price increase for mid tier books 1k and up, be bumped way up! I think its a money grab and this is just one more way to get money by CGC.

Big John breaks it down for the people in the back ;-)

On 4/18/2023 at 2:00 PM, CGC Mike said:

Your posts are coming on a little strong as well.  I recommend toning it down a bit.  

Just defending myself. If people attack me I should defend myself yes? Or is it ok to let the attacks continue and the attackee to just stop replying and leave like a coward? That empowers bullies they think "they won something". It also encourages them to continue on. So If I very politely defend myself without cursing is it a problem? If so then the attacker should be reprimanded to stop the entire thing agreed? I mean it takes 2 to argue correct? To allow bully commentors to "roam the halls" so to speak, isnt a great idea. I did see you step in but I still see the continued "egging on" which is not going to curtail an argument. Its like poking a bear and not expecting to get mauled. But I do see your point because in hindsight I could just leave it alone but I hate bullies and I stand up for those who are buillied in life. It just irks me when keyboard commandos think they are something they are not.

On 4/18/2023 at 10:57 AM, theCapraAegagrus said:

So you're just a hypocrite? Alternately, you could try to be a better person.

You could also stop trying to reply to me about your feelings on the matter. But I guess your the type to egg on a fight but not jump in IRL. FAFO is how I was raised son ;-)

On 4/18/2023 at 8:16 AM, theCapraAegagrus said:

The lack of self-awareness is astounding...

Ohh dont get me wrong sir. If you want to play petty games im down. I will call your BS out if you jump down my throat about something YOU clearly do yourself. So my self awareness is great thank you for not noticing the intentions behind that. If you decide to attack me I will in turn do the same. This is a board for disscussing comics. If you cant help but post butthurt feelings about a simple mistake well thats on you bub. 

I appreciate everyones feedback I do. I counted about 20 or so different people who whole heartedly dislike the future of cleaning comics and the direction it has taken. I am on the other side of this "obviously" and have made my intentions clear and concise. Other than a few petty people intruding in the thread THANK you to all those that have posted I appreciate your honest feedback. 

On 4/17/2023 at 6:12 PM, Lazyboy said:

Wait... you looked up a thread from years ago for that? You're the one who's petty, in addition to all your other amazing qualities. And your spelling (among many other things) does suck.

Ok buddy you are so right. Ill go hide in the sand now

On 4/17/2023 at 4:28 PM, WoWitHurts said:

Lost me at "ALOT of extremely good professional cleaners and pressers out there."

I bet you get lost easily in any conversation then. I mean its basic english. But if being petty is your thing do you boo boo.

On 4/17/2023 at 3:48 PM, Lazyboy said:

They're both words, but neither was used by NWOslave, so...

Different thread he made. I called him out for being petty and let him know to check his own spelling before he tries to correct others.

On 4/16/2023 at 4:57 PM, NWOslave said:

correcting someone is not an insult. I also provided an opinion based on your post. cgc will be fine as long as speculators are falling for spider-boy 7's all day long. And, I have friends, aquiantences and family thank you.

Sir its ADVICE not ADVISE. Might want to start checking your own mistakes before trying to correct others.

On 4/17/2023 at 10:07 AM, joeypost said:

I’m going to do a few tests using peroxide and UV light and it’s affects on books. I can’t imagine anything good will come of it other than it looks pretty. 

Well good luck on your testing. It has been proven to be highly successful.

On 11/8/2021 at 3:13 PM, NWOslave said:

I am considering buying collectible insurance for my comics. Certain aspects of my collection are getting valuable and just in case something bad happens i dont want it to be a total loss. 

What advise can any of you provide for someone new to the process?

questions off the top of my head:

any recommended companies?

do you insure your whole collection or just certain books?

how do you assign value?

how do you keep up with value?

thanks

 

Its ADVICE not ADVISE. See the difference is when you ask for someones ADVICE versus someone who is ADVISING you on subject matter. Odd you would correct grammar of others yet not grasp your own mistakes.

On 4/16/2023 at 4:28 PM, namisgr said:

Do you soak the whole book or just the cover?

No just the area you work on.

On 4/16/2023 at 4:21 PM, NWOslave said:

no this wont affect cgc's submissions. every tom mr smith jones and harry is sending in every book they buy on wednesday in hopes it hits some speculative lottery. 

also, a lot, not ALOT. 

So nothing to add other than insulting a minor grammar oopsie? You need friends.

I understand some of the questions but attacking people for bringing up the question is petty. I amongst many others do my own cleaning and pressing and I am concerned that cleaning books will bring a PLOD for using a water bath and dry eraser. These are very basic techniques and yes some of these are getting flagged as "RESTORED". CGC is basing alot of this on assumptions because if you look at a cover and see it cleaned and tidy then open up the book and see tanned pages well you are going to assume it was cleaned. I reallty dont want to argue with anyone. It seems thats all people do now adays is find something to argue about no matter what. I like to think these forums and others like this are here to help/educate/uplift people. I see too many people happy or upset that someone else is able to do something they cant or wont and then attack. I did ask for opinions and I thank each and everyone who participates in this all be it negative or positive. I will gladly debate anyone with decoram and kindness anyday about what RESTORATION vs CLEANING means. Hopefully we can all learn something from this as we go. And for those who asked about evidence or proof the one video poseted is just the tip of the iceberg. Hang tight I will post a few more here so you can see some of the seeds of chaos this is sewing. Hobby Hero/ Immaculate Comics is a really amazing person who is always on the cutting edge of responsible cleaning https://www.youtube.com/@ImmaculateComics. I can keep going but start with these and I will answer questions as I go.

Im going to keep this short but would like the entire community to give me honest input. As of late CGC has been sending out purple labels left right and center for "RESTORATION FOR CLEANED COVER". Now heres the issue with this. Is dirt boogers and god knows what else part of a comic book when it comes off the press? I dont believe so no. Would a person rather own a book covered in filth versus a cleaned cover that brings the book back as close to new as it can be? I believe so yes. CGC hasnt had a problem with cleaning books until recently. Even in the CGC grading guide nowhere does it mention that cleaning the cover could be construed as "RESTORATION". By definition means to "RESTORE". I think CGC allowing a person to openly give an opinion on if a book is "TOO CLEAN FOR ITS AGE", is a really bad precedent. By grading books with purple labels for a simple cleaning is killing the community as of late. Its all anyone is talking about in the clean and press community. Unless CGC changes its standards and DEFINES restoration as CLEANING A COVER USING STANDARD METHODS. I think CGC will be taking a pretty big hit long term to its submissions. Theres ALOT of extremely good professional cleaners and pressers out there submitting thousands of books a year for their clients. When those clients start getting purple labels back well there goes the client. CGC You are only hurting the community as a whole doing this. NOONE is saying "ohhh thank GOD that booger and blood and dirt is still on this comic phew!"

I have a large collection of IP autos from many artists. I wanted to send a few Books into CGC to get graded. Can I pay extra to have CGC verify the signature of the book and then grade it? I dont want to get the book back with the dreaded "NAME WRITTEN IN INK ON BOOK" label. If not is there ANY other workaround for this? I dread sending my business off to CBCS....but I fear my Stan Lee and John Beatty books may have to go there just to get authenticated and slabbed. Thanks in advance everyone happy new year ;-)