Aman619

I was speaking to this sentence. Someone going off to war might say a lot of things to his family: take care of my dog, take care of mom, dont lose my watch, or my baseball mitt. amd oh, and dont throw out my comics. Why would the story of the pedigree include all the other things he asked to be taken care of? Its the comics story that counts. Maybe the way the "story" was told leads one to believe it was just his comics he cared enough about to mention cause we dont care about his watch or mommy when bidding on the comics. but, I haven't been following this "story" all that closely. To me its the comics that make a pedigree, not the story behind them. To me that just fluff cause the Pedigree name conveys quality regardless of where or how they were accumulated. I know not all of you feel this way though. So hard to keep up with all the conspiracy theories nowadays! Made up Pedigree backstories! Fake rocket ship stamps! Social media will be the death of us all.

Why wouldn’t a collector going off to war tell his brother “take care of my comics”, or “don’t let anyone throw them away”? back then comics were garbage. Your family didn’t care at all about them. Chances are if you didn’t specifically tell them NOT to keep them. They’d be gone when you came home. they’d keep your baseball glove forever, but not your old funny books. Even unread in perfect condition.

That’s a part of life. Building assets and eventually cashing them in as needed. Nice that our hobby has become something that can help smooth over the rough patches

That site is long since dormant, right? I don’t think even Matt checks it out or updates it.. are you still able to upload to it?

Yes. Powerful argument with data to back up what we suspected. However, the main reason we gravitated to hg was based on the supply side . The Lower grade copies have soared due to unanticipated DEMAND for any copy. I don’t think any of us back in the day saw this coming. We hoped comics could reach this point, but felt safer going for best and scarcer copies. Oops.

Well, we can’t expect to see as much “Love of the medium” as when we were kids because the “medium” is no longer in its infancy. It’s now a media juggernaut. These new collectors can’t share our experiences buying and reading them new like we did. To them they ARE just collectibles with values. This is Just where we are now after 80 years of comics publishing. I look at it as a success story, albeit with a tinge of sad realization that our hobby isn’t the same, or will ever be going forward. but, you know, like so much around us in 2021, what else is new?

as to high grade vs low grade, I think the last 5-10 years have forced us to realize that so many of us made the "mistake" of buying the best copy we could afford for safety and investment potential, and not amassing multiples of low grade keys. As the HG copies have skyrocketed out of reach of collectors, its been the carpy "low grade swill" (as we used to refer to them) that have seen such incredible growth in values as they are eagerly scooped up rather than NOT have a copy. This applies not only to AF15, but also these highly coveted PCH classics.

Yeah… stimulus money to replace regular earnings doesn’t get those people to sufficient cash to buy 20K comics. But extraordinary gains from investments did. The markets have soared these past two years for those who do now have 50K to 1M liquid that coupled with a fever to invest in collectibles like Marvel comics characters has happened. I struggled with just WHO is buying this stuff all of a sudden. But it’s starting to make sense. The pool of people who now feel it’s safe to invest in comics, looking to diversify, and buy cool stuff, and who actually believe they are getting in early! Has grown due to the movies, and pools of profits from all their investments. What else could it be?

That guy is a hoot! I can never figure out how anyone is gullible enough to fall for these subscription based masters of getting rich seminars etc. Their entire sales pitch is illogical and anyone interested must ask the simple question that greed prevents them from seein* upfront! If these techniques work, and the master is so successful and rich… why would they bother with penny ante subscription fees, and dealing with inexperience rubes for small change? Every minute explaining to people how to get rich is a minute away from making more money himself than the fees he getting. As well as creating his own competitors, in this case for only $750 down! as if anyone can learn real estate, or even comics collecting in a short time. cant people see this?

haha. good old Mr Peabody. how about "Oh Nell, I AM puny!" any idea when the video was made? I still think whoever made it as a video would have included a read along with images. But they may just have wanted t save the audio without all that extra work.

We live in an increasingly weird world where anything is possible after a century of fiction, film plots and conspiracy theories…. But I don’t think any owner of an ACtion ! This nice stamps an image on it to boost bidding. But…. I mean don’t we always say Buy the book, not the stamp?

I’m surprised this video just verrry slowly zooms out on the actual comic, not even the enclosed reprint. And that that’s all we ever see. Why not show the actual panels with the voices!

I’m not questioning whether the stamp is phony… looks like a match to me. But the photo of the stamp has to be flopped cause inking the side we are looking at would leave a flopped image on the comic. Right? What’s on the right side of the inked stamp ends up on the left side of the paper it’s pressed against

What about pub dates like Summer 1940 etc?

you mean your manscaper?

I love that one. his stencils look so real but looking closely, theres really so little info there. the outstretched hand is a blobby sideways V.. I think we see the face which DID stencil clearly and our brains tells us it's all in focus and realistic.. heck, I probably like it cause it reminds me of this old lithograph I did a few moons ago... "Nanook"

I agree. I’m reading these posts and finding it hard to remember any scenes.. and I watched last night.

Love Fishler cavalierly just cramming the comics back in the boxes. But they were worth a lot less then I guess. Or Hamill splaying them out on a table outside! Are they even in mylars? Lol

Maybe 4M. With the news of “something” selling for 4.5 the bidders won’t feel too far ahead of the market. 6.0 is an honorable grade for a book of this calibre1

Why would anyone think putting a big ugly stamp on a nice Action 1 would ever be considered a marketung plus? It’s an ugly stain on the cover that has no significance. I know some collectors like a story attached to a copy, and dealer have embellished the stories nw and then, but a big ugly rocket stamp added? And only on the most valuable book? Nah.

It’s all guesswork until the books sell. But when a Superman ! Sells for 2.6M, the 3 better copies values get a bump. Forgetting the 2 8.0s, the ungraded best copy would blow away 3.6. That the logic. Best copy vs best copy. The picture is a bit clearer after the 7.0 sale cause before that, Superman 1 sales were far less and it’s all reprints etc.

Sure. Problem with splitting them up is if anyone could identify which book of the batch will see auction frenzy, the consignment dealer/site would up the price and sell it too, rather than the normal estimated price. As I said it’s a gamble that may pay off. Anyway there’s always been ebb and flow between consignment and auction. Grass often looks greener on the other side.

one difference between consigning to a dealer and selling at auction is the price you will get when it sells, and the basic methodology of how the final number is gotten to. Consigning means setting a sell price, and the final amount paid will NEVER be more than you are the dealer think its worth. (or worth plus enough more to give a 15 or 20% discount etc.) You can never sell for MORE than the asking price. At auction you gamble -- if theres no demand, you will get less than a fixed consignment sale price. So while your book will sell quickly as opposed to sitting on a dealer site waiting for the right buyer to come along, you can "lose" money. However, you have the chance of it selling for much more than you would have asked for if you are selling the right book at the right time. Often you make enough on that one big win to cover any losses on the rest of your auction batch of books. I suppose that if youre selling common (non early movie hype) HG stuff a consignment site might be better. The market pretty much has a range that will sell consistently at. So theres less chance it will be fought over by eager bidders at auction netting you the big win.

having the cover of the comic popup would be awesome! but Im assuming that it couldn't be universal, that there'd be missing covers. But all the major publishers covers ought to be doable partnering with one or more online databases...

I think the thread was closed while they looked into the issue, and to protect the usual bunch of over zealous CGC bashers who love taking potshots at CGC from making fools of themselves for a while with their conspiracy theories etc….