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I have a question I don't think we have ever researched. What is Sgt Rocks second cover appearance? I never realized but after 83, Easy company have a blurb on most issues, but rarely Sgt Rock himself. Anyone know?

I'm sick of Gotham, but it's really well made, shot and lit and they do keep the story moving along confidently like they know they've got good things planned...

Could be. But Marvel wasn't starting any number ones att that time, due to I think their limited monthly permitted distribution quota, which was like 8 to 10 books a month. The other westerns didn't restart their numbers with with every creative change.

I don't have a timeline about British comics. Frankly I'm not really sure their comics were same as our format . 32 pages plus covers. But I seem to recall they do... Anyway, if they were printing their own comics over the pond, they were sent printing materials. And if not, then US publishers changed the plates and printed them for them. But maybe just English speaking countries. I doubt Atlas, Marvel or even DC would bother translating and re lettering entire comics so they could print them in the states and ship them. Who here has some of those cool foreign editions of early marvels? Tell us if they say where they were printed please!

not necessarily. they would have a deal with the publishers that they are sent final printing plates, final negatives and or photostats with which to make their language etc changes in order to locally print the comics. Certainly for overseas markets where printing here and shipping would have been slow and expensive. Canada was probably printed at Sparta same as USA comics though. Don't know about UK. But since they had a viable comics industry, including local printers well versed in comics production, chances are they created their covers and interiors etc from supplied materials and made changes.

The reason the entire masthead looks hand drawn is because ALL comics logos are handdrawn. Nearly all logos anyway, because back then, paying some letterer was cheaper than typesetting. We are talking years before desktop publishing put fonts and typesetting in everyone's hands beginning in the 80s. I don't know if all copies have the handdrawn 60, but ive never seen a typeset one either. Seems the typeset 60 piece fell off the cover mechanical somewhere on the way to the printer, who noticed it and just wrote the 60 in place probably at the deadline when delaying would have cost press time fees and Marvel back in NY said kit, write it in! And the pence copy also has the handdrawn 60 because they received the US printing setup (stats) to build their version of the cover with, swapping out the price into local currency.

Wow. Didn't know those grades existed! Awesome collection. But where's the Rahide Kid 22..

St marks back issues are over priced and still sitting in heavily pawed over for years long boxes in the back. The only way there'd be something interesting in there was back when NYers with collections to dump were un savvy about the values and just dropped into a comic book store to take pennies on the dollar. And that doesn't happen anymore. They do sell a lot of new comics and trades and toys etc.

Pent up demand can make it happen. Threre were a few years since the last 9.4 was for sale, and when it did it hit close to 500k this year. It's a shame there are 4 copies now, cause I think that's a lot. But this is the world we live in now. Even with pressing, I think it's amazing that so many of the best remaining copies of a book from 1961 that's such an important comic have survived in such HG shape.. What were these people thinking that originally kept them so nice? For so long..

compare early June to todays census. I see a minus 1 in 9.4 and the new 9.6 appearing! so, somebody finally upgraded their 9.4 (wonder who?) to keep up with the Joneses! more interesting perhaps is the number of minus in the restored row, and no plusses. Guess a lot of color touch is being scraped away at CCS.

... which is a big deal, especially in the slabbed era.

seeing the book after leaf casting, and given their talents, Im wondering why they don't just repaint EXPERTLY what needs it, leaving the rest of the covers intact (painting-wise)... rather than repainting the entire over until it looks plastic and shiny but not original inks? Just clean the covers and retouch the areas that are missing. and why not leave some of the dirt in the yellow.. the books will look more like high grade comic books and not total recreations, which most of us have been complaining about since their work began appearing. Other restorers were bad painters, and the areas added always looked too heavily painted etc. The Meyers I believe have the skills to do a BETTER job, by doing LESS than they feel they need to now. anyone else agree?

Did/does the Burroughs estate have any high grade copies that haven't surfaced?

Those are just well preserved sweet copies of cheaply printed early 60s Marvel comics.

wait I put lots of word spaces in between! ------ SC4---Sc22--BB 28 9.6 -----1------ 0 ------0 9.4 -----2 ------0 ------2 9.2 -----2 ------1------ 3 9.0 -----2 ------3 ------7 8.5 -----3 ------4 ------7 8.0 -----7 ------7 -----23 7.5 -----7 -----10 ----15

hurts my eyes! SC 4 Sc22 BB 28 9.6 1 0 0 9.4 2 0 2 9.2 2 1 3 9.0 2 3 7 8.5 3 4 7 8.0 7 7 23 7.5 7 10 15

Only slightly correct, when customers switch printing plants (usually cause they got a better price) the new plant will want to impress the new customer with a higher quality product so they'll beef up the color to make a good impression. all that is true, but the visual difference has less to do with any extra efforts with inks or printing quality assurance than to the paper stock used on the covers that changed. The new paper handled gloss better. Hold a Captain Marvel against any earlier 60s Marvel and the difference is clear. I think that once Marvel came out of their restrictive 11 books a month restriction imposed in the late fifties when they moved to DCs distributor, (I forget what exactly happened there) and they started adding vigorously to their list of titles, they made a better deal with the new printer to handle the load and get a better deal with their new clout in the industry.

Heritage has noted in their auctions that 20 copies exist. But who knows...

I think the extra gloss on late 60s marvels refers to when they switched printers in 1968. There was a noticeable change in appearance, paper and gloss after all the years of Marvels cheap approach to comics production. They were number one by then, or dam close, and stepped up once their distribution limitations were freed up.

I think that a subscription to GPA or GoCollect is not merely for the sales results themselves, which we call all see for free on the sales sites themselves... But rather for the PROCESS by which we can search and view the sales data in a unique format, either GPA or GpCollect. We pay a subscription fee for the TOOL THAT SEARCHES AND PRESENTS THE SPECIFIC SaLES DATA WE ARE SEEKING... Not just the answer. How are these sites different from Overstreet reporting last years sales and charging a cover price? They re-publish data freely given by the dealers in most cases from sales reports, but also record-breaking sales that are known to have happened. Does a million dollar sale need to be "reported' to Overstreet if we all know it happened? These site are packaging the data. Reading the Wiki page linked earlier it doesn't seem clear that scraping is always illegal.

Well, while I do Google Dave a sim every now and then to watch his progress , I just saw that he does have a new Cerebis project going that's isn't more reprinting a and delving into his notebooks etc etc. Cerebus in Hell. Is a series of 4 panel gag strips, with newly drawn Cerebus figures overlaid onto scans from Dantes inferno prints. So that's something. No Gerard though,

I was an avid Cerebus collector, amassing multiple copies of all early issue Cerebi back in the 80s. I also purchased the early books from Harry Kremer. A real sweet guy. He was Sims "partner" on Oktoberfest and then Cerebus, facilitating the printing costs etc. he told me they ordered 2000 copies of #1. But when the books were delivered, they quickly saw that many were damaged, with spine cracks. They complained to the printer, and the result was that they got a credit back, which was settled by overprinting an additional 400 copies of issue #2 So that's why so few number 1s are high grade. And since Dave hand picked a dozen of the best copies right away, why his file copies are among (if not THE) best preserved copies in existence. It's a shame that Dave, having completed his vow to stop after exactly 300 issues, and since gone on to be even weirder and out of the mainstream than ever, has allowed (or caused) Cerebus to languish unappreciated these past ten years. But, that's his call. I guess I respect him for it, but want to grab him and say "snap out of it!"

this thread is meaningless until the Dellicatessen arrives.... these dire predictions keep coming back to the comics market. One thing is 100% true: sooner or later they will be correct. And they only have to be right once -- Like the nuts on the street saying the world is ending.

9.4 JIM 102 sold on Heritage for 8K this week... why?

Maybe if Kirkman only make it to 200 issues. I don't get the feeling Kirkman will allow himself to be tied down to one big villain.. Good point about Negan being around 50 issues. But, counting issues isn't meaningful, for a few simple reasons. First, in the progression of the story, Govrnor was pretty early on. He had the group face a stronger opponent, and Rick etc struggled to survive. In later arcs, he decided to wage a larger full scale war with many communities joined together. That took a lot of issues to set up. Then he took what 15-20 issues alone to end it in telling All Out War? The number of issues is many more than Guv due to Kirkman settling in and biting off a much more elaborate plot than he did with the Guv. Shows his progression as a creator. Which is why I believe he will outgrow Negans character, toss him aside when he embarks on larger tales of his new world. Sooner or later we will see NY, Boston, Chicago. There will be plenty of Ricks and Negans to write about. Not to mention Kirkmans tendency to throw a shocker just when we all think we know where he is going. I like Negan too, just don't see him as Joker. Don't really see the superhero genre analogy either. Time will tell.