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I'd say you probably have to use buy-it-now listings to get the best price...with a little wiggle room for an offer.  Be patient, get enough eyes on it, eventually someone will appreciate and value the card on its merits.

It happens when a card is slightly oversized for their regular holder and has to be placed in the larger holder...but the plastic sleeve is needed for it to fit properly and not move around.  I guess also could happen if a card was just a little small for their regular holder and needed the sleeve not to sit securely.  Even cards from the same set/year do get cut differently and don't always come out the exact same size.

In hand it feels most like a PSA one, smaller and thin...not bulkier like BGS and SGC.

I'd be surprised if PSA does anything below the $200 level the rest of the calendar year.  Agreed the CSG slabs are great, and the experience has not been great for many people. I won't be submitting anything again to CSG in the near future, but maybe down the road if turnaround times ever get back in check.

Maybe start with the cards of the biggest stars, find the ones that are in the best condition, look up recently sold prices on ebay to see what the market is at for those cards.  Or post a bulk pic with the cards and maybe people here can pick some out.

And here are the subs:

So I'm hoping it's a 6.5 overall (doesn't say yet) with 9 centering...I think that's a subgrade worth getting for this particular card.

I'm getting back a vintage card that I chose subgrades for.  I think it can be valuable if some of the subs will highlight special features of the card.  This is a 1960 Mickey Mantle.  I knew it was really well centered and that the surface really popped and it looks like the subgrades support that and I'll make sure to emphasize that when I sell it.  Here's the raw card:

Yeah, I had a $30 SGC submission that was delivered by USPS on May 27th and was graded and shipped back on June 2nd...six days later.  Should have it in hand Monday.  Feels really good to get a card back quick without paying a fortune.

This is from the FAQ page about subgrades

"...if the two lowest sub-grades are the same, then that is the final grade for the card."

Man, can't imagine what they saw to say trimmed.

Post a pic of the card if you can, definitely would like to see it.

4 hours ago, Sean Power said:

I sent in a 1993 Derek Jeter SP Foil rookie card, which I had opened from a pack myself when I was a kid, and sent it in to be graded only to get it returned to me with 'Evidence of Trimming'.

I'm 100% certain it has never been altered in any way as it has been in my possession since it left its wrapper. What a load of BS.

I can't imagine how someone could even trim one of those foils without destroying the edge. Just the size alone they usually wouldn't say ev/trimmed, would have to be something about how an edge is cut. Do you have a scan of the card you can post?

Yeah, I feel lucky for sure. Maybe will send it in again with fedex. 

Got my returned package today. The box was pretty wrecked, actually looked like someone had quite possibly opened it. Was not sure my card would be in there. Thankfully it was and was unharmed. 
 

17 minutes ago, ItismeH said:

The barcode idea has potential but since walkthrough and express have priority to be opened first, to find an alternative would be challenging.

Yeah, they need to know which to open first…and this is how psa does it so they know which packages to open first. So instead of CSG just looking at each package and putting it in the sooner or later pile based on the outside writing, they just scan and put into the sooner or later pile based on what the scan tells them. 

• Just got a generic answer that csg refuses packages that show signs of damage or potential tampering so you can file a claim with your carrier if necessary.  I feel I packaged my card well enough to avoid any damage unless the box was pretty much destroyed, but tampering...that's something else.  I'm sure the overwhelming majority of postal workers are completely honest, but putting things like WK on the outside of packages to CSG kind of alerts anyone with bad intentions that there is likely something valuable inside.  They should go to a barcode system you can affix to the package so they can scan and sort into priority without being blatantly obvious to potential bad actors.  Hopefully my card will be back to me in a few days and all will be well.

2 hours ago, Andy Gardecki said:

I can appreciate this on a low value card like this, especially in PSA 9 condition.  What I want to see is an uptick in value for high value cards where the difference between a PSA 10 And CSG 9.5 right now is so large that it's not worth trying to sell any of them yet.  I've played with putting a high value card 9.5 out on eBay for a slightly less value than PSA 10 for the same card, but I haven't even been able to attract an offer.

I'm confident that this gap will start to close, but it might take some time.

The problem with companies that regularly give 9.5 as a gem mint designation is that the end buyer isn’t going to pay the same money (or even close to it) for a ‘not quite perfect’ card that they would spend on a ‘perfect 10’ from psa…even though the cards may be identically nice. 
 

The companies that use sub grades and frequent 9.5 GM designations technically have the superior grading scale and system, but collectors and investors just want to feel like they have a perfect card by seeing that magical number 10. The 9.5 ends up being almost a put-off. 

Did not send it registered.  Just kind of trust things to go well. May be a mistake.

On 5/15/2021 at 3:08 PM, robotur said:

Do i need to crack the card out for the slab for the crossover service or does CSG take the card out of the slab?

Yeah if you cracked it, it would not be a crossover...would just be you submitting a raw card.

Not happy. Sent a one card walkthrough order that was refused by CSG. But if I track it on their website, says they have received it and is safely in their storage facility (which it’s not). This is seeming kind of shady and I’m kind of concerned with what I’ll be getting back in my ‘refused’ package.
 

Can’t think of any reason they’d refuse it unless it was severely damaged, which I don’t have any way of knowing yet. But ridiculous that their site says they have it. Been a day and a half and no response from customer service. 
 

1 hour ago, ItismeH said:

Sorry to break it to you but if your cards fall under this category...

This is a new rule, enacted after a lot of people sent in submissions that are still waiting to be opened.  Previously you could submit changes to orders once they were received...so if you're acting like this rule always existed or something, you're wrong.

Post a picture of the card if you can.  Not sure we can decode csg's rules but looking at a specific card would be helpful.

34 minutes ago, Chris1096 said:

Really? I had no idea you could not get a 10 perfect without buying sub grades. This seems like a loophole for selling and buying and on top of that a cash grab. First thing I have heard about CSG that I am very disappointed in.

You can get the 10 Pristine, just not the Perfect since you don't know if all 4 subs are 10s or not.

Not an app, but if you'd like to do it manually these are great.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/303098489820?hash=item469213ebdc:g:i5YAAOSwxyBfEMHY

5 hours ago, Legacy Man said:

I was wondering how a CSG graded card would end up with a final grade of 8.5 with the following four grades:

Centering 9.5    Corners 9.5    Edges 8.0   Surface 9.0    Final Grade: 8.5

Is the Edges grade a more important calculation in the final grade of a card?

Thank You

 

So, you're just going to get either 0.5 or 1.0 more than the lowest sub-grade.  To get the whole 1.0 higher, everything else has to be really strong, I'm guessing...a 0.5 bump above the lowest grade is the most common and usual.  So maybe if the surface was 9.5 you might have got a 9 overall.  But there's a bit of the unknown in what definitely makes a .5 or 1.0 above the lowest sub-grade.