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On 12/19/2023 at 3:34 AM, Beardown said:

Amazing copy and fantastic job on the restoration removal.  

You are the future of our hobby at 16 years old and the biggest reason why I have zero doubt our hobby will be around for a very long time and is in good hands.  

I'm curious, do you collect with a family member or just get the collecting bug on your own?

 

To start, thank you so much.

I'm glad you feel that way, and I'll try to do what I can to keep it alive.

To answer your question, by myself. My family introduced me to comic book media, which helped me get into collecting and later reading, but I can't say I have any family who share my interest.

bumping 

On 7/25/2023 at 2:49 PM, scburdet said:

I and the maniac both think that you have some foxing and soiling

There is, but there's also slight dirt.

On 7/25/2023 at 2:26 PM, scburdet said:

The Grading and Restoration Issues forum is the probably the place to ask about how-tos. This is a grading forum. Foxing won't come off with dry methods, so trying to get that off will probably lead to a restored label. I don't think any amount of work with get this to 9.0 or above, so the ROI maximizing the grade on this will be limited.

Huh? I'm talking about the dirt on the back cover. Using an eraser to clean off dirt doesn't qualify as restoration.

Worth learning how to clean with an eraser? If so, please recommend good erasers. Thank you!

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On 7/18/2023 at 6:28 AM, batman_fan said:

(1976)

You started collecting 30 years before I was born, unfair head start 

On 7/18/2023 at 10:20 AM, buttock said:

I see huge red flags with the piece you bought.  

The lines are unsteady, often a tell of a fake.  Look at the top of Batman's head, the hatching on his forehead, and Robin's browline. None of the long lines look like they were drawn in one singular motion.

Comparing it to the other examples, the framing/shading of Batman's cheek is unlike the others, using horizontal lines instead of a single vertical line.  There is similar shading on Batman's ears that isn't seen on the others.   

Just off google, I could find these, with my sketch being practically identical. I don't know what to do, the dealer doesn't do returns, and as of now I'm not sure on its authenticity.

On 7/18/2023 at 8:02 AM, The Voord said:

I wouldn't touch 'Kane' drawings with a barge pole.

Sadly, even if the OP considers it authentic, doubts will now creep in . . . and it doesn't help that this so-called 'credible' dealer won't do returns (which says it all, really).

Yeah, pretty upset as of now, I don't know what to do.

On 7/17/2023 at 7:18 PM, grapeape said:

The stamp should not be considered at all as provenance or proof of authenticity. It doesn't make it real or fake.

I must've passed on 100 "Bob Kane" drawings over the years. I wanted one but always felt uncomfortable with provenance. Kane Batman, along with Schulz Snoopy, are two of the most aped "originals" to seep into the OA world. 

Gratefully, after learning about Bill Finger my heartache from not owning a Kane plummeted to less than zero.

I can't recommend that you try to return it. Maybe it is Kane? Then you'd be sad. However, if you come away desolate over the uncertainty, surely the "credible dealer" would offer trade value of what you paid? To keep a happy customer?

Some issues you face. An insecure dealer who has passed this piece on may not want to take it back if they know about this thread. Doing so in their limited understanding might lay credence to an opinion that the piece is suspect. 
 

I do have some well meant advice though. If ever you have doubts, post to this thread "BEFORE" a purchase. There's an irrational fear that you'll lose a deal, somewhat FOMO related. You could've asked the dealer to HOLD that piece until the end of the day. Make this same post. Make use of what info you could trust. Than buy, or not.  I fear you've only added to your anxiety by posting here. I hope you are able to "authenticate" this in a way that makes you feel certain. It's almost as if you had doubts, but purchased anyway.

 

 

 

 

Thank you for the advice. 

On 7/17/2023 at 4:56 PM, BCarter27 said:

Would the Whitney stamp a piece of original art on the back? Seriously not likely.

When was this supposed exhibit? I can't find it on Google. And I don't see anything by him listed on the Whitney site. So this statement feels a little fishy-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Kane

 

I do see two pieces he donated to the MOMA, but if the dates are 1967 as stated, someone else drew them!

https://www.moma.org/artists/30424

(Anybody know anybody at the MOMA? They should change this attribution in their catalog.)

 

If this Whitney exhibit was supposedly before 2015, the Whitney wasn't even at that address-

https://whitney.org/about/history

 

I'd return that drawing, if I were you!

I mean, I'm just so lost. I'm pretty certain it's an authentic Kane piece, the characters are in his style, and his signature and general handwriting look accurate, but the stamp is what confuses me. I'm trying to think of the scenario in which it would have been stamped or who stamped it, because whether it's authentic or not, it has the stamp, which confuses me. But generally, I'm pretty sure it's authentic, and the dealer doesn't do returns.

I've seen many on here discuss the authenticity of Bob Kane pieces, with many discussing them being forged/faked. At Torpedo Con yesterday, I bought this Kane piece from a very credible dealer, who I trust significantly, but since I'm new to collecting I have anxiety over my first pickup. The first two images are of the piece I purchased, with the ones after that being similar examples seen on Heritage and the PSA website. Something interesting is that on the back of the paper the sketch is on, it says "Whitney Museum of American Art", which Bob Kane has had his art on display there previously, making me think that maybe he did it while there. Using the font the text was printed in, I can determine it's Arial font, putting the piece likely being made in the 80s. How does the piece look? Any immediate issues found? Authentic? Opinions appreciated.

I've seen many people on here, and the general internet, talk about how Bob Kane's original art is often forged. I'm a 17-year-old collector, and today, at Torpedo Con, I picked up my first piece of original art, a Kane piece from a reputable dealer. I'm aware that the dealer is very credible in the community, and I trust them deeply, but I'm anxious as I'm new. The first two images are of the piece I picked up. For extra information, the text on the back of the paper says "Whitney Museum of American Art", in which Kane has had his art on display there before, so I believe this compiled with his living in New York to be hopeful evidence. The text on the back was written in the Arial font, which was made in the early 80s. The rest of the images are similar examples to this piece I've seen on Heritage and the PSA website. Let me know what you think, is it authentic?

Uni 4.5 White/Off-White.

After a press/dry clean. Opinions?

this book WILL be pressed and cleaned before being submitted. I would just like to know a general grade.

Hello, I submitted my comics a bit back and the submission tracking still says "We haven't received any submissions". we tracked it and know it shipped, we know it's the right po box, what should we do?