CGC X Men - Is this a Miscut?

[Captain_Pike]

I was wondering if this CGC9.6 X-Men #120(WP) is deemed as a MISCUT (located @ the bottom Chaos in Canada )?

[drbanner]

That book looks to be off-center (sometimes referred to as mis-folded), not miscut. Miscut implies the book was not cut to the correct dimensions, thus the use of the word "cut" - miscut books could be too short, too tall, too narrow, too wide, or have corners that are not right angles.

[joe_collector]

That book looks to be off-center (sometimes referred to as mis-folded), not miscut. Miscut implies the book was not cut to the correct dimensions, thus the use of the word "cut" - miscut books could be too short, too tall, too narrow, too wide, or have corners that are not right angles.

 

You are correct as per OS, but as Steve has said, CGC uses (used?) Mis-Cut to reflect multiple variety of cover-cut production flaws.

 

We're in a CGC World, or haven't you been keeping up?

[osborn_fr]

That book looks to be off-center (sometimes referred to as mis-folded), not miscut. Miscut implies the book was not cut to the correct dimensions, thus the use of the word "cut" - miscut books could be too short, too tall, too narrow, too wide, or have corners that are not right angles.

 

You are correct as per OS, but as Steve has said, CGC uses (used?) Mis-Cut to reflect multiple variety of cover-cut production flaws.

 

We're in a CGC World, or haven't you been keeping up?

 

Right, here's an example: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2192283326&category=75

[drbanner]

That book looks to be off-center (sometimes referred to as mis-folded), not miscut. Miscut implies the book was not cut to the correct dimensions, thus the use of the word "cut" - miscut books could be too short, too tall, too narrow, too wide, or have corners that are not right angles.

 

You are correct as per OS, but as Steve has said, CGC uses (used?) Mis-Cut to reflect multiple variety of cover-cut production flaws.

 

We're in a CGC World, or haven't you been keeping up?

 

Overstreet/CGC, Shmoverstreet/SchmeeGC...a cut by any definition is a cut, not a fold. I know you (and many others) have always used "miscut" to describe this kind of defect, but OS is correct, and obviously, a miscut is a very different type of defect than off-center. A perfectly centered book can be mis-cut, and an off-center book can be perfectly cut.

 

(Actually, I believe it was BB13 that paraphrased Steve on this matter...it was not Steve's direct quote.)

[fantastic_four]

A perfectly centered book can be mis-cut, and an off-center book can be perfectly cut.

 

I sorta agree, but the word "miscut" as used to describe a "miswrap" isn't totally wrong because the problem occurs not due to an error in wrapping the book around the cover, but because the cover wasn't cut with the spine registration mark squarely in the center between the cut edges. Once assembled, the book looks miswrapped, but the error was during the cutting, not the wrapping.

 

Overstreet's "Taxonomy of Binding Defects" from both the 1992 and 2002 grading guides is a much more specific way to describe the defects we're currently describing as miscuts and miswraps.

[Captain_Pike]

I think...I know what you mean.

I found this on eBay.

[fantastic_four]

The exact name of that taxonomy I was referring to in Overstreet is the "Bindery Trimming Defect Taxonomy" on page 346 of the 2002 grading guide. According to that list, this X-Men 94 has trimming defect #1B.

 

Only problem with that way of assigning a grade to a specific type of defect is that you HAVE to memorize the scale...I'm sure nobody reading this knows what a trimming defect 1B is without looking in the guide or the X-Men 94 you posted a scan of. There has to be a better way to name defect severities...

[THE_BEYONDER]

There has to be a better way to name defect severities...

 

 

 

[Captain_Pike]

Hmmm...$368.66 for the off-centered CGC9.6 X-Men #120 (WP).

Anybody interested in another 9.6 #120 (WP)?

 

 

 

 

[fantastic_four]

Well, yes...but what are you looking to get?