FullHulkSmash Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Why are Copics so expensive anyways? Yes, they're good but I don't find them to be that much better than the old Letraset Trias (RIP) with the literal TRI-TIPS... And they are water-based, no? They are water-based, and I'm not sure what the difference is between them and the old Letraset markers - as I've never used the latter. Looking at the Letraset markers, my guess is that they lay down ink like Prismacolor markers (very opaque and saturated) - the Copics lay down color in a more translucent fashion, and allow for more build up of color to achieve maximum saturation. How this translates into being more expensive, I'm not sure. They are kinda pricey outside of Ebay, but if you know the color you want, and you can wait - you can usually get them from $3-$5 shipped on the 'Bay. Michaels has them for $8 a whack, and I only go there if I am in dire need of a color immediately. I may have missed something but Copics are alcohol based and I agree they are quite expensive. One of the things that makes them so costly I believe is the consistency of the colors. A lot of markers that are supposed to be the same color are usually a little but different, I have never seen this with a Copic marker. Also, I think the fact that you can replace the nibs and refill them adds tot he cost since you do not have to buy a new one everything the ink runs out. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senormac Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 are these the pens being discussed ? I didn't know they were refillable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangbus Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 are these the pens being discussed ? I didn't know they were refillable Yes. the markers are .. I'll have to check if the pens are as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullHulkSmash Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I don't think the .7 and BS are refillable but the others are. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senormac Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 wikipedia I always forget to look up stuff on there. Must ....make ....checking.....wikipedia..... a.....habit.... I've been using the .7 like crazy, with the 100's for filling space. The BS (brush) got frayed at the tip and doesn't make a true line anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR SigS Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 (edited) Here's one of the two cover recreations I started (the other may be spoken for), and am pretty frickin happy with it. If all goes well, it (or another) just may go into this years raffle. I don't really have the time or resources to ink right now so I think I'm going to build a stack of these in the meantime. I'm trying to decide on a great Pre Code Horror cover that hasn't been done too many times. There's so many to go through, but seeing all the awesome covers is always fun. I'm still deciding on a Hado inspired Spider Woman recreation. Something Copper Age or sooner. The contrast has been increased so the pencils show clearer. They're quite a bit lighter than shown. Edited January 1, 2013 by Sulphur Server Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hado Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Pretty incredible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senormac Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Here's one of the two cover recreations I started (the other may be spoken for), and am pretty frickin happy with it. If all goes well, it (or another) just may go into this years raffle. I don't really have the time or resources to ink right now so I think I'm going to build a stack of these in the meantime. I'm trying to decide on a great Pre Code Horror cover that hasn't been done too many times. There's so many to go through, but seeing all the awesome covers is always fun. I'm still deciding on a Hado inspired Spider Woman recreation. Something Copper Age or sooner. The contrast has been increased so the pencils show clearer. They're quite a bit lighter than shown. Thats excellent !! Kirby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR SigS Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Here's one of the two cover recreations I started (the other may be spoken for), and am pretty frickin happy with it. If all goes well, it (or another) just may go into this years raffle. I don't really have the time or resources to ink right now so I think I'm going to build a stack of these in the meantime. I'm trying to decide on a great Pre Code Horror cover that hasn't been done too many times. There's so many to go through, but seeing all the awesome covers is always fun. I'm still deciding on a Hado inspired Spider Woman recreation. Something Copper Age or sooner. The contrast has been increased so the pencils show clearer. They're quite a bit lighter than shown. Thats excellent !! Kirby Kirby/Sinnott Thanks I'm starting to read from the OA forum and see that recreations can be a touchy area of the hobby if not represented properly, far more than I suspected. Sure, I knew that there were and are many that try to pass off recreated covers and pin ups as OA, and I assume even recreated published pages- though I don't recall reading of those types of misrepresentations. But reading the posts there I see that the extent some go to dupe honest collector's can even be comical. Unless, that is, someone is duped. It looks like there are more do's and don'ts than I thought. I can't think of a better place to learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangbus Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Here's one of the two cover recreations I started (the other may be spoken for), and am pretty frickin happy with it. If all goes well, it (or another) just may go into this years raffle. I don't really have the time or resources to ink right now so I think I'm going to build a stack of these in the meantime. I'm trying to decide on a great Pre Code Horror cover that hasn't been done too many times. There's so many to go through, but seeing all the awesome covers is always fun. I'm still deciding on a Hado inspired Spider Woman recreation. Something Copper Age or sooner. The contrast has been increased so the pencils show clearer. They're quite a bit lighter than shown. Thats excellent !! Kirby Kirby/Sinnott Thanks I'm starting to read from the OA forum and see that recreations can be a touchy area of the hobby if not represented properly, far more than I suspected. Sure, I knew that there were and are many that try to pass off recreated covers and pin ups as OA, and I assume even recreated published pages- though I don't recall reading of those types of misrepresentations. But reading the posts there I see that the extent some go to dupe honest collector's can even be comical. Unless, that is, someone is duped. It looks like there are more do's and don'ts than I thought. I can't think of a better place to learn I've been doing the same. I'm working on an ASM 33 and an Xmen 101 on 11x17 blue line right now. I'm just ensuring that my name is signed on it 'after the original artst(s).' My style is on the amateur side of the coin and I do want that to shine through. I'd hate for something I recreate to end up being passed off as original years later. I actually like doing recreations on blank covers so they don't compete against the larger OA pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senormac Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Here's one of the two cover recreations I started (the other may be spoken for), and am pretty frickin happy with it. If all goes well, it (or another) just may go into this years raffle. I don't really have the time or resources to ink right now so I think I'm going to build a stack of these in the meantime. I'm trying to decide on a great Pre Code Horror cover that hasn't been done too many times. There's so many to go through, but seeing all the awesome covers is always fun. I'm still deciding on a Hado inspired Spider Woman recreation. Something Copper Age or sooner. The contrast has been increased so the pencils show clearer. They're quite a bit lighter than shown. Thats excellent !! Kirby Kirby/Sinnott Thanks I'm starting to read from the OA forum and see that recreations can be a touchy area of the hobby if not represented properly, far more than I suspected. Sure, I knew that there were and are many that try to pass off recreated covers and pin ups as OA, and I assume even recreated published pages- though I don't recall reading of those types of misrepresentations. But reading the posts there I see that the extent some go to dupe honest collector's can even be comical. Unless, that is, someone is duped. It looks like there are more do's and don'ts than I thought. I can't think of a better place to learn I've been doing the same. I'm working on an ASM 33 and an Xmen 101 on 11x17 blue line right now. I'm just ensuring that my name is signed on it 'after the original artst(s).' My style is on the amateur side of the coin and I do want that to shine through. I'd hate for something I recreate to end up being passed off as original years later. I actually like doing recreations on blank covers so they don't compete against the larger OA pages. I don't think I could ever make a recreation look that good. I'm just an amatuer cartoonist doing my own thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hado Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 There are some seriously skilled people here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Here's one of the two cover recreations I started (the other may be spoken for), and am pretty frickin happy with it. If all goes well, it (or another) just may go into this years raffle. I don't really have the time or resources to ink right now so I think I'm going to build a stack of these in the meantime. I'm trying to decide on a great Pre Code Horror cover that hasn't been done too many times. There's so many to go through, but seeing all the awesome covers is always fun. I'm still deciding on a Hado inspired Spider Woman recreation. Something Copper Age or sooner. The contrast has been increased so the pencils show clearer. They're quite a bit lighter than shown. Wow! That is exceptional! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullHulkSmash Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Same here, but I have fun doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senormac Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Same here, but I have fun doing it. Did you draw your avatar pic ? I like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR SigS Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 (edited) Thanks all. Especially you, Shadow. That means quite a lot coming from you . I do want it known that I utilize the aide of a light box. The inking stage is where I'm trying to grow. I had started a DD #91, but got a little careless and spilled a some ink on it. It might be salvageable, but I thought I could do a better job on the header so I just started another instead. Not really a spoiler, but it is a great space saver. I like the idea of pics in the spoiler window. Saves a lot of space This pick was a WIP shot for someone that may want to buy it. And the new one. I can draw on my own, but not well or consistently enough (yet) to recreate this well. At least not quickly. I'm really happy with this because I've seen some pretty bad light box drawings, so I must be doing something right. Of course, I still need to ink it Edited January 1, 2013 by Sulphur Server Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hado Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senormac Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Thanks all. Especially you, Shadow. That means quite a lot coming from you . I do want it known that I utilize the aide of a light box. The inking stage is where I'm trying to grow. I had started a DD #91, but got a little careless and spilled a some ink on it. It might be salvageable, but I thought I could do a better job on the header so I just started another instead. Not really a spoiler, but it is a great space saver. I like the idea of pics in the spoiler window. Saves a lot of space This pick was a WIP shot for someone that may want to buy it. And the new one. I can draw on my own, but not well or consistently enough (yet) to recreate this well. At least not quickly. I'm really happy with this because I've seen some pretty bad light box drawings, so I must be doing something right. Of course, I still need to ink it white out ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR SigS Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 White out is fine if it's going to be scanned for publication, but it looks kinda tacky on a recreation- something designed for display. IMHO I'll try using an exacto, but that a lot of ink to lighly scrape. My "Master" uses an electric eraser at times, which is basically a type of dremel tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maccai3 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 (edited) playing around with figure drawing and it turned into Flash i'm very poor at inking, i need to practice this year Edited January 2, 2013 by Maccai3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
