Not another pressing thread.

[DrWatson]

I thought this was a very interesting question that got lost in one of the pressing threads:

 

- CGC's grade means nothing to me and I don't care what they think. I just buy slabs because the books have been checked for restoration. I buy a CGC 9.2 book, crack it open and after a thorough review, I disagree with the CGC grade and grade it a 9.4.

 

- Can I sell the book as a raw 9.4 without disclosing that CGC graded it 9.2? Do I have a responsibility to the buyer to disclose the CGC grade?

 

Thoughts?

[nik]

 

My thoughts are that if this did happen and the book sold raw as a 9.4, it would not fetch as much as the slabbed 9.2

[MutantKeys]

Who posted that?

[DrWatson]

Does it matter the original poster? I took it as a hypothetical.

[MrBedrock]

 

My thoughts are that if this did happen and the book sold raw as a 9.4, it would not fetch as much as the slabbed 9.2

What if Dave Anderson went to Florida and had the Action 1 graded. It gets an 8.0. He is on-site and hates the grade so he cracks it out so that it never reaches the census.

[MutantKeys]

Does it matter the original poster? I took it as a hypothetical.

Yes it does matter

[VintageComics]

 Originally Posted By: nik

 

My thoughts are that if this did happen and the book sold raw as a 9.4, it would not fetch as much as the slabbed 9.2

What if Dave Anderson went to Florida and had the Action 1 graded. It gets an 8.0. He is on-site and hates the grade so he cracks it out so that it never reaches the census.

What if Matt opens an onsite pressing service, DA presses the MH Action #1 (even though it was already pressed by Church) using a walk through service in San Diego, then regrades it and it get's a 9.6?

[nik]

 Originally Posted By: nik

 

My thoughts are that if this did happen and the book sold raw as a 9.4, it would not fetch as much as the slabbed 9.2

What if Dave Anderson went to Florida and had the Action 1 graded. It gets an 8.0. He is on-site and hates the grade so he cracks it out so that it never reaches the census.

GA fans are a fickle bunch, so thats an unfair question

[MutantKeys]

 Originally Posted By: nik

 

My thoughts are that if this did happen and the book sold raw as a 9.4, it would not fetch as much as the slabbed 9.2

What if Dave Anderson went to Florida and had the Action 1 graded. It gets an 8.0. He is on-site and hates the grade so he cracks it out so that it never reaches the census.

On-site is only for moderns

[MrBedrock]

 Originally Posted By: MrBedrock

 Originally Posted By: nik

 

My thoughts are that if this did happen and the book sold raw as a 9.4, it would not fetch as much as the slabbed 9.2

What if Dave Anderson went to Florida and had the Action 1 graded. It gets an 8.0. He is on-site and hates the grade so he cracks it out so that it never reaches the census.

 

What if Matt opens an onsite pressing service, DA presses the MH Action #1 (even though it was already pressed by Church) using a walk through service in San Diego, then regrades it and it get's a 9.6?

What if, after having it pressed and receiving the 9.6, Dave and Matt argue over the pressing bill. Dave gets really angry and throws the phone, accidentally hitting the slabbed Action 1, cracking the case, and dinging the book so that it now will only grade 7.5?

[thirdgreenham]

I thought this was a very interesting question that got lost in one of the pressing threads:

 

- CGC's grade means nothing to me and I don't care what they think. I just buy slabs because the books have been checked for restoration. I buy a CGC 9.2 book, crack it open and after a thorough review, I disagree with the CGC grade and grade it a 9.4.

 

- Can I sell the book as a raw 9.4 without disclosing that CGC graded it 9.2? Do I have a responsibility to the buyer to disclose the CGC grade?

 

Thoughts?

 

If that happened, he can grade it a 9.4 if he believes that, but ultimately, should mention CGC's opinion as well. This isn't the case of sending a book off to CGC, it coming back with a purple label, and then the seller cracking it open and selling it as unrestored. However, it makes me think of that scenario, only because of the common line of knowing CGC's opinion and hiding it. If that were me, and I wanted to do that, I would break it out and say that CGC gave this book a 9.2, but I truly believe that this is a 9.4. In the end, it all comes out to how much is the seller going to get, no?

 

My

 

Andy

[DrWatson]

With the excitement over disclosure lately, I was wondering if this should not be disclosed to the potential buyer as well. You know, the person who deserves to know the entire history of a comic that is for sale.

[MrBedrock]

 Originally Posted By: MrBedrock

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On-site is only for moderns

Not if you are having walk throughs graded in Sarasota!

[Jeffro.]

My thoughts are that if this did happen and the book sold raw as a 9.4, it would not fetch as much as the slabbed 9.2

 

Except for those proponents of quoting GPA prices when trying to sell their raw books.

[thirdgreenham]

 Originally Posted By: r1970d

 Originally Posted By: MrBedrock

 Originally Posted By: nik

 

My thoughts are that if this did happen and the book sold raw as a 9.4, it would not fetch as much as the slabbed 9.2

What if Dave Anderson went to Florida and had the Action 1 graded. It gets an 8.0. He is on-site and hates the grade so he cracks it out so that it never reaches the census.

 

What if Matt opens an onsite pressing service, DA presses the MH Action #1 (even though it was already pressed by Church) using a walk through service in San Diego, then regrades it and it get's a 9.6?

What if, after having it pressed and receiving the 9.6, Dave and Matt argue over the pressing bill. Dave gets really angry and throws the phone, accidentally hitting the slabbed Action 1, cracking the case, and dinging the book so that it now will only grade 7.5?

Actually, even if the book is damaged inside the holder, CGC will still put it in a new holder with the old 9.6 grade attached.Andy

[MrBedrock]

 Originally Posted By: MrBedrock

 Originally Posted By: r1970d

 Originally Posted By: MrBedrock

 Originally Posted By: nik

 

My thoughts are that if this did happen and the book sold raw as a 9.4, it would not fetch as much as the slabbed 9.2

What if Dave Anderson went to Florida and had the Action 1 graded. It gets an 8.0. He is on-site and hates the grade so he cracks it out so that it never reaches the census.

 

What if Matt opens an onsite pressing service, DA presses the MH Action #1 (even though it was already pressed by Church) using a walk through service in San Diego, then regrades it and it get's a 9.6?

What if, after having it pressed and receiving the 9.6, Dave and Matt argue over the pressing bill. Dave gets really angry and throws the phone, accidentally hitting the slabbed Action 1, cracking the case, and dinging the book so that it now will only grade 7.5?

 

Actually, even if the book is damaged inside the holder, CGC will still put it in a new holder with the old 9.6 grade attached.

 

Andy

I am not sure that that is the case. I had some slabs shipped to me that were smashed in shipping. CGC would not reholder them, they had to be regraded.

[nik]

With the excitement over disclosure lately, I was wondering if this should not be disclosed to the potential buyer as well. You know, the person who deserves to know the entire history of a comic that is for sale.

 

To go a little further, would someone if they cracked out a 9.2, sent it in and came back 9.4 without doing anything to the book?

[cd4ever]

I thought this was a very interesting question that got lost in one of the pressing threads:

 

- CGC's grade means nothing to me and I don't care what they think. I just buy slabs because the books have been checked for restoration. I buy a CGC 9.2 book, crack it open and after a thorough review, I disagree with the CGC grade and grade it a 9.4.

 

- Can I sell the book as a raw 9.4 without disclosing that CGC graded it 9.2? Do I have a responsibility to the buyer to disclose the CGC grade?

 

Thoughts?

No, I see no moral obligation to disclose what another persons/people opinion of the grade is. Can if you want though. More info is always better than less.

[MrBedrock]

I thought this was a very interesting question that got lost in one of the pressing threads:

 

- CGC's grade means nothing to me and I don't care what they think. I just buy slabs because the books have been checked for restoration. I buy a CGC 9.2 book, crack it open and after a thorough review, I disagree with the CGC grade and grade it a 9.4.

 

- Can I sell the book as a raw 9.4 without disclosing that CGC graded it 9.2? Do I have a responsibility to the buyer to disclose the CGC grade?

 

Thoughts?

If, in the spirit of disclosure, you did have the responsibility to relay this info, you should also be obligated to disclose every grade that everyone had given it prior to encapsulation.Imagine if you ran a book through one of the PGM threads, then had CGC grade it and went through the above scenario. If you decided to run a sales listing with full disclosure it would take a very long time for a potential buyer to read it all.

[thirdgreenham]

 Originally Posted By: MrBedrock

 Originally Posted By: r1970d

 Originally Posted By: MrBedrock

 Originally Posted By: nik

 

My thoughts are that if this did happen and the book sold raw as a 9.4, it would not fetch as much as the slabbed 9.2

What if Dave Anderson went to Florida and had the Action 1 graded. It gets an 8.0. He is on-site and hates the grade so he cracks it out so that it never reaches the census.

 

What if Matt opens an onsite pressing service, DA presses the MH Action #1 (even though it was already pressed by Church) using a walk through service in San Diego, then regrades it and it get's a 9.6?

What if, after having it pressed and receiving the 9.6, Dave and Matt argue over the pressing bill. Dave gets really angry and throws the phone, accidentally hitting the slabbed Action 1, cracking the case, and dinging the book so that it now will only grade 7.5?

 

Actually, even if the book is damaged inside the holder, CGC will still put it in a new holder with the old 9.6 grade attached.

 

Andy

I am not sure that that is the case. I had some slabs shipped to me that were smashed in shipping. CGC would not reholder them, they had to be regraded.

Guess I got lucky.