Evan Dorkin's National Report

[jools&jim]

Holy Hanna, what a sweaty male armpit of a show. Average age, I'd say, at a guess, was in the late 30's, early 40's...

 

Last time I checked, Evan Dorkin was male...and in his early 40's...

 

But seriously...that pretty much sounds like 90% or so of the shows I attended and did from 1990 - 2001 or so (I swore them off completely in 2002). I'm sure there are still some good ones out there, but after a while, I just couldn't take the high levels of freakishness, and the low levels of personal hygiene. Not being able to take my kid with me because of all the porn stars, strippers, and general sleaze-factor, was another BIG turn-off...

[langur88]

 

Not being able to take my kid with me because of all the porn stars, strippers, and general sleaze-factor, was another BIG turn-off...

 

 

It's all about the Benjamins. Nothing else.

 

 

[jools&jim]

 

Not being able to take my kid with me because of all the porn stars, strippers, and general sleaze-factor, was another BIG turn-off...

 

 

It's all about the Benjamins. Nothing else.

 

 

Yep. Which is at least part of the reason why they don't get mine anymore...

[HOTFLIPS]

All I have to say is wow.....GET OVER YOURSELF!!

 

He's crying because he didnt make money at the show?? Maybe if he had a better attitude he wouldnt be complaining. Maybe its because that "fanboys" in the Northeast dont take care who you are if you are gonna give them an attitude. Maybe if he had shown a little appreciation to his fans he would have had a better show.

 

I had a good show. It wasnt spectacular, but it wasnt that bad either. Yes the escalater broke down, but it was fixed. Maybe it was hot, but there were some fans set up to try to get air through the place.

 

What is funny is that he described every show that i have been to. Other shows have wider isles, but there are more people crowding them so its the same thing.

 

Adults dressed up at shows are pathetic?? Please....I dont think its all that bad that they can come to a show and be themselves. Funny thing was I saw the stormtroopers all day at the show and all they were doing, everytime i saw them, was waving to kids and posing for pictures with them. Who know, maybe that kid becomes a fan now.

 

Chewbacca was scary?? There are more scarier things in life so get prepared. I though they were awesome.

 

Fat, balding fanboys?? I think you need an ego check pal. Insults to the few people who actually support you is not gonna get you far.

 

I dont know who this artist is, dont know how long hes been around, dont know what comics he worked on, but a little courtesy to the people who support you go a long way. Other artists seemed to do just fine as I was putting print after print into toploader after toploader all weekend. I think he needs to stop with the "me, me, me, me" attitude.

 

Mike and Brian and the rest of their staff bust their tales running this show. If there is a problem at the show Mike tries to fix it as soon as he can. Maybe it wouldnt hurt to hire one of those experienced bathroom attendents to keep the bathroom clean all weekend, but its the same thing at all the shows.

 

As far as the show being the worst?? I disagree wholeheartedly. It cant be that bad if Jim Lee has been confirmed to do the National show next November. If he thought it was such a bad show Im sure he would confirm to be there a year in advance.

 

Ok, im done with my Get over yourself,

 

Jeff

[Foolkiller]

Jim Lee has legions of fanboys. Most people don't give a f--k who this guy is. Even among comic fans, the vast, vast, vast majority don't care about this guy. Translation? Jealous rant.

 

I'm not fat, don't smell (or at least somebody needs to tell me if I do), don't dress up in costume and neither do most of the guys that I hang out with. There are plenty of guys who do, and while I may think some of their behaviors are strange, I'm not sure I could pass judgment on any of them or mock them... if you're into comics at all, there's segments of society who want to make fun of you regardless.

 

 

[HOTFLIPS]

agreed!! (thumbs u

[lizards2]

You guys need to read some of Evan Dorkin's stuff, then you'll understand - you are taking this way too personal it is funnier than heck ::

[Transplant]

Never heard of this guy before but here's my take, with not having been there. Sounds like the guys made some general criticisms applicable to most cons and some specific ones as well. From the people who've jumped to defend the show, I keep hearing the following: Yes, it was hot but... Yes, it was crowded but .... Yes, some people have few social skills or good hygiene but ... Yes, the bathroom and escalators broke down but ...

 

All in all, it didn't read like anything more than a general compilation of the general and specific flaws of most cons.

[seanfingh]

 

Dorkin satirizes everything. He may be a real , but, to me, he is funnier than hell. Some people don't think he is funny, and think he is too mean and unsympathetic. They are probably right. But he is not picking on the comic-con attendees. He treats everyone that way.

[MMurdock]

Who cares if people dress up? I never have, but I don't see the problem. Mind your own business.

 

And I've never heard of this guy, but if a seller of any good was being a jerk I wouldn't buy anything from him...unless it was an incredible deal.

[nik]

You did smell a little funky after that 10 block walk to Virgils

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[the blob]

"At tiny shows like this, many cool dreams can come true....like mine, I was finally able to get an original sketch from Jim Steranko! That could not have happened at the NYCC or the Mocca."

 

this is hardly a tiny show. Langur's show at the holiday inn on 57th is tiny, but it is also very much too the point. no porn, no wrestlers, etc. a couple of tables for creative types i think. it's been a while since i've gone.

 

i dunno though, i got autorgraphs from romita sr. at a wizard philly show at the height of the insanity in the early 90s, i waited all of 10 seconds. super nice guy, probably would have been happy to do a sketch too.

 

at one of these nationals a couple of years back i'm pretty sure there was neal adams, sitting at his table with nobody bothering him...

 

if there was no AC, I guess i'm not too upset about missing it. dragging a couple of boxes of comics around and sweating like a pig on a very muggy day and then rushing to get back to my office...

 

 

[Old Fashion PB and J]

You did smell a little funky after that 10 block walk to Virgils

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wow.. I thought that was just how NY always smells

[langur88]

He may be a real

 

No may be about it. Even when he's right he has to be a about it.

[NYComics]

I found it interesting when Mr. Romita and Mr. Sinnott both said that they would much rather do this show any day than go to a big Media con like San Diego or what NYCC is turning in to.

 

I dunno, I love this show. It is hot, but it always is. So you wear shorts and go outside when it is too hot. And it only takes less than 1 minute to get outside because it is so small and you get right back in no problem.

 

Dorkin or whatever his name is just sounds pissed because nobody brought any money or attention his way while he watched Romita have a line wrapped around artist alley. The dealers were good as always and CGC was there doing there thing.

 

You deal w/ the conditions because of the artists and dealers. What they offer is great. You can get some quality comissions and it is not impossible to get an autograph.

 

Relax Dork!

 

 

[DrWatson]

Never heard of this guy before but here's my take, with not having been there. Sounds like the guys made some general criticisms applicable to most cons and some specific ones as well. From the people who've jumped to defend the show, I keep hearing the following: Yes, it was hot but... Yes, it was crowded but .... Yes, some people have few social skills or good hygiene but ... Yes, the bathroom and escalators broke down but ...

 

All in all, it didn't read like anything more than a general compilation of the general and specific flaws of most cons.

I thought it was great.

 

Chicago was hot. No, it wasn't crowded at all. Every con has stinky fanboys and some of them are even affluent stinky fanboys that one would think would know better.

 

Never used the restroom there, but the escalator was working every time I used it.

 

If nothing else, the nostalgia was worth the price of admission.

[the blob]

hey, it's probably better than the old Penn Hotel shows in the early 90's where you had to take an elevator up to like the 10th floor and it was a much smaller space....

 

and he's dissing the old st. paul's church shows. those were never intended to be multimedia shows, they were comic conventions with a few related things being sold and a couple of creative types. but yeah, they were really hot unless you were standing by the door in winter.

[CKB]

hey, it's probably better than the old Penn Hotel shows in the early 90's where you had to take an elevator up to like the 10th floor and it was a much smaller space....

 

Man you just hit me with a wave of 90's nostalgia for the Greenburg shows......

 

[the blob]

Man you just hit me with a wave of 90's nostalgia for the Greenburg shows......

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yup, carbonaro before he started running things ... with his booth set up at the entrance to the show with his frantic yelling, trying to scrape up enough cash to settle whatever debt he needed settling or whatever....good times.