PGM Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles #1 First Print

[Mac Man]

I'm just curious how you guys would grade my copy of TMNT #1? I have my thoughts on it, but I'm submitting it for Signature Series (first book submission), and I'm curious to see grade you think it is. I've also include a picture of the inside with a sketch and signature by Peter Laird.

 

[oakman29]

6.5 wish I had one

[colugo]

I got one of these too. You got to love the turtles. My is signed by Kevin and Peter but I didn't get the cool extra illustration like yours, maybe in San Diego? Anyway cool copy, I gave it a 7.5 for the extra added illustration and the signature.

 

Cheers!

Colugo

[Mac Man]

So far, looks like I'm pegging this harder than others. I know I tend to come down harder on color-breaking creases when on a black cover though than if it were another color.

[piper]

6.5

[The Silver-Age]

Without a witness to that sig and sketch, isn't it going to go green?

[TMNT]

Usually it just drops the blue grade down. Not sure that I've ever seen one of these with sigs already inside get a green, and I've seen alot of signed blues (including mines)

[colugo]

Why would a signature drop the grade down? In my opinion I would find it way more collectable with the creator's autograph. Having an autographed LP signed by Elvis Presley is better than just the LP alone. The very thought knowing the artist took a few seconds in their life to give you the time and sign the object, whatever it is, makes it more unique. Or were you thinking because there is no witness confirmation for authentication? Either way it is cool.

 

Colugo

[Boozad]

Usually it just drops the blue grade down. Not sure that I've ever seen one of these with sigs already inside get a green, and I've seen alot of signed blues (including mines)

 

Unwitnessed signatures get a green label unless you request a blue label with the relevant grade hit.

[colugo]

How does one get a confirmed signature? I know the people at CGC are not gonna follow you around or wait. Who is the third party witness besides you and the person who gives the autograph?

 

Thanks,

Colugo

[Mac Man]

Colugo, first welcome to the boards! Second, I'd suggest you check out the Signature Room forum of the boards--I think you'd find it a cool place to learn more about CGC signature authentication.

 

Here's a question for you graders: I understand the blue label with defect or green label with pinpoint grading; however, since I see NO way this book will grade higher than a VF- (and as I mentioned, I'm aiming a bit lower than that), wouldn't an unverified signature and sketch still be allowable in mid-grade w/o actually detracting from the grade?

[colugo]

Are there any torn pages on the inside? I either read something, or somebody told me one time that the first printed edition had problems with torn pages due to machinery processing when the books were being assembled.

 

Colugo

[divad]

I keep clicking on the thumbnails, but nothing happens . . .

[Mac Man]

The interior is in perfectly fine shape--the defects for this book are right where you can see them.

 

 

Grandpa! Did you lose your glasses again? It's ok.

 

I keep clicking on the thumbnails, but nothing happens . . .

 

 

[Mio]

Cool book. I remember when I was a kid, there was a year when everything I bought was turtles-related. (nerd alert!)

[Earl Davis]

6.0

[divad]

I keep clicking on the thumbnails, but nothing happens . . .

[gaz2810i]

I voted 6.0

[crazyhips]

5.5 to 6.0 from a grade perspective.

absolutely priceless from a collector prospective.

not every that can be counted, counts

not every thing that counts, can be counted ..... Einstein

[Mac Man]

Well, the average grade is just over 6.0, so if this comes back a solid FN, I might just pull one of these out and with a little on the side as I placed it as a 5.0-5.5.